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    Lancaster to see significant county tax increase

    https://buffalonews.com/2020/01/12/w...ts-going-down/

    Confusing? You betcha, even to one well informed on the need for a timely reassessment process to level the playing field for municipal taxpayers and to comply with state requested property taxes based on 100% market value.

    Property reassessments based on market value sale do not raise taxes, so we are told. We are told 1/3 of properties will realize a decrease in taxes, 1/3 remain the same and 1/3 can expect a tax increase. Now tell that 1/3 whose market value has increased significantly that the reassessment doesn’t increase their taxes. Yet if they have been underassessed they should have expected this.

    Lancaster is in the process of conducting a property reassessment and the final role is scheduled to published mid-year. There will be some very unhappy campers.

    In looking at the data provided, it is near impossible to make sense by how much county taxes will increase in Lancaster. One looks at the tax increase / tax decrease chart and sees the Lancaster’s county tax rate is increasing by 0.64% (5.178 to 5.81), which implies taxes on a property assessed at $100,000 will increase by $63. Seriously? A home assessed at $300,000 will pay $189 per year in county taxes and Poloncarz was touting tax decrease.

    Poloncarz doesn’t understand the process, the State has a $6.2 billion deficit, Medicaid costs are out of control, 77,000 people left New York last year; we are so screwed - especially if Cuomo decides to ask counties to fork over more for Medicaid expenses and cuts back on school aid.

    State Equalization Rate

    2019 - 77.00
    2018 - 88.00
    2017 - 92.00
    2016 - 95.00
    2015 - 98.00
    2014 - 100.00
    2013 - 100.00
    2012 - 100.00
    2011 - 100.00
    2010 - 100.00 (Last reassessment)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    https://buffalonews.com/2020/01/12/w...ts-going-down/

    Confusing? You betcha, even to one well informed on the need for a timely reassessment process to level the playing field for municipal taxpayers and to comply with state requested property taxes based on 100% market value.

    Property reassessments based on market value sale do not raise taxes, so we are told. We are told 1/3 of properties will realize a decrease in taxes, 1/3 remain the same and 1/3 can expect a tax increase. Now tell that 1/3 whose market value has increased significantly that the reassessment doesn’t increase their taxes. Yet if they have been underassessed they should have expected this.

    Lancaster is in the process of conducting a property reassessment and the final role is scheduled to published mid-year. There will be some very unhappy campers.

    In looking at the data provided, it is near impossible to make sense by how much county taxes will increase in Lancaster. One looks at the tax increase / tax decrease chart and sees the Lancaster’s county tax rate is increasing by 0.64% (5.178 to 5.81), which implies taxes on a property assessed at $100,000 will increase by $63. Seriously? A home assessed at $300,000 will pay $189 per year in county taxes and Poloncarz was touting tax decrease.

    Poloncarz doesn’t understand the process, the State has a $6.2 billion deficit, Medicaid costs are out of control, 77,000 people left New York last year; we are so screwed - especially if Cuomo decides to ask counties to fork over more for Medicaid expenses and cuts back on school aid.

    State Equalization Rate

    2019 - 77.00
    2018 - 88.00
    2017 - 92.00
    2016 - 95.00
    2015 - 98.00
    2014 - 100.00
    2013 - 100.00
    2012 - 100.00
    2011 - 100.00
    2010 - 100.00 (Last reassessment)
    Looking at my 2020 tax bill, this old house is assessed at $105,000.
    My county tax went UP $66.69
    Library tax went DOWN $4.73

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    What's mind boggling to me is a house in Clarence assessed at $105,000 pays $463.42,
    while I pay $610.46.
    But the house in Clarence uses the services of the Erie county sheriff's department and we don't.
    Last edited by gorja; January 14th, 2020 at 06:17 AM.

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    Here is what completely boggled my mind. When the Village of Depew voted not to dissolve. Why keep a whole layer than frankly isn't needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gorja View Post
    Looking at my 2020 tax bill, this old house is assessed at $105,000.
    My county tax went UP $66.69
    Library tax went DOWN $4.73

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    What's mind boggling to me is a house in Clarence assessed at $105,000 pays $463.42,
    while I pay $610.46.
    But the house in Clarence uses the services of the Erie county sheriff's department and we don't.
    They don't pay for a town police department, which saves them money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    Here is what completely boggled my mind. When the Village of Depew voted not to dissolve. Why keep a whole layer than frankly isn't needed.
    Because "WHO'S GONNA PICK UP MUH LEAVES!!! I NEED MUH SERVICES!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neubs24 View Post
    They don't pay for a town police department, which saves them money.
    Neubs, Yes, I do know that much. I lived there 48 years and I didn't mention anything about a town tax. But you would think that towns that don't have their own police force would have a higher rate of COUNTY tax than those that don't, since they use the county police services.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neubs24 View Post
    Because "WHO'S GONNA PICK UP MUH LEAVES!!! I NEED MUH SERVICES!!"
    Our town highway boys had my branches crunched up 20 minutes after I put them out this morning.
    Here, I was worried, it wouldn't get done before another snowfall.

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    Our town taxes may be going up but the Buffalo Lancaster Airport had their taxes reduced, along with the Akron Airport. That means the residents pick up and pay what the airport no longer does.
    In 2011 Lancaster Airport consisted of 30-35 acres of "airport use" only property. Approximately 105 acres are L1 (light industrial). The company, Lancaster Airport Inc., has control of a total of 140 acres that was purchased and paid for with taxpayer (over 14 million dollars) money. In 2011 they paid $29,600.65. After going to court in 2012 and convincing the judge that the 1.8 million assessment was too high, they had it lowered to $500,000.
    In 2016, their total taxes were $10,893.82. In 2019, Our Lancaster Tax Department lowered their assessment again. Taxes paid in 2019 $8828.04.
    Since 2011 to today, the airport is paying $20,772.61 less than what they paid in 2011.
    Akron Airport:
    125.6 acres consisting of eleven buildings:
    In 2019 They paid Erie County a total of $7,295.76

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebLemaster View Post
    Our town taxes may be going up but the Buffalo Lancaster Airport had their taxes reduced, along with the Akron Airport. That means the residents pick up and pay what the airport no longer does.
    In 2011 Lancaster Airport consisted of 30-35 acres of "airport use" only property. Approximately 105 acres are L1 (light industrial). The company, Lancaster Airport Inc., has control of a total of 140 acres that was purchased and paid for with taxpayer (over 14 million dollars) money. In 2011 they paid $29,600.65. After going to court in 2012 and convincing the judge that the 1.8 million assessment was too high, they had it lowered to $500,000.
    In 2016, their total taxes were $10,893.82. In 2019, Our Lancaster Tax Department lowered their assessment again. Taxes paid in 2019 $8828.04.
    Since 2011 to today, the airport is paying $20,772.61 less than what they paid in 2011.
    Akron Airport:
    125.6 acres consisting of eleven buildings:
    In 2019 They paid Erie County a total of $7,295.76
    Marrano wouldn't have done that without a fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebLemaster View Post
    Our town taxes may be going up but the Buffalo Lancaster Airport had their taxes reduced, along with the Akron Airport. That means the residents pick up and pay what the airport no longer does.
    In 2011 Lancaster Airport consisted of 30-35 acres of "airport use" only property. Approximately 105 acres are L1 (light industrial). The company, Lancaster Airport Inc., has control of a total of 140 acres that was purchased and paid for with taxpayer (over 14 million dollars) money. In 2011 they paid $29,600.65. After going to court in 2012 and convincing the judge that the 1.8 million assessment was too high, they had it lowered to $500,000.
    In 2016, their total taxes were $10,893.82. In 2019, Our Lancaster Tax Department lowered their assessment again. Taxes paid in 2019 $8828.04.
    Since 2011 to today, the airport is paying $20,772.61 less than what they paid in 2011.
    Akron Airport:
    125.6 acres consisting of eleven buildings:
    In 2019 They paid Erie County a total of $7,295.76
    You are aware that the airports are residents of the towns in which they are located, right?

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    Lee, Poloncarz may or may not understand the system but the man is simply a liar and a schnook. That’s why he tries to equate a cut in tax rates (well, for a few people) as a cut when the levy continues to increase at record annual rates under his maladministration.

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    Originally posted by DebLemaster:
    Our Lancaster Tax Department lowered their assessment again. Taxes paid in 2019 $8828.04.
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I do believe that it's the assessor that sets the assessment not the tax department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grump View Post
    You are aware that the airports are residents of the towns in which they are located, right?
    Yes, the Lancaster airport resides in the Town of Lancaster.
    Our properties reside in the town too but we don't get a 64% reduction in our assessments

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    Quote Originally Posted by gorja View Post
    Yes, the Lancaster airport resides in the Town of Lancaster.
    Our properties reside in the town too but we don't get a 64% reduction in our assessments
    Did you apply for one? Can’t get one if you don’t apply. My guess is that airports are assessed differently than typical residential properties. There aren’t a lot of them and they don’t trade every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grump View Post
    Did you apply for one? Can’t get one if you don’t apply. My guess is that airports are assessed differently than typical residential properties. There aren’t a lot of them and they don’t trade every day.
    No, I only applied for my Senior STAR.

    The assessor should have made the airport take her to court instead of caving in without a fight.
    64% isn't a little reduction to take lightly.

    Grump, did the airport assessment process change between the years 2018 and 2019 that they received the reduction?

    I'm wondering what their 2020 reassessment will be.

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