Lancaster to see significant county tax increase

[DebLemaster]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I do believe that it's the assessor that sets the assessment not the tax department.

Yes, you are correct. The Assessor sets assessments.
FYI: We also notice that the 10 bay hanger and 18 Enterprise Drive (airport owned) are no longer listed on tax rolls. Why??

[gorja]

Yes, you are correct. The Assessor sets assessments.
FYI: We also notice that the 10 bay hanger and 18 Enterprise Drive (airport owned) are no longer listed on tax rolls. Why??

I think that's part of SBL-95.00-4-51.
If you look at the town's mapping system, it's now part of 4343 Walden.
At least with my poor vision, it is.

[mark blazejewski]

I appreciate and share Mrs. L.'s concerns about the airport assessment issue.

But, in the world of assessments, I am still perplexed by the assessments concerning Blackstone, and what I perceive to be mansions assessed as patio homes.

Just sayin'.

[DebLemaster]

I think that's part of SBL-95.00-4-51.
If you look at the town's mapping system, it's now part of 4343 Walden.
At least with my poor vision, it is.

Based on Erie County tax records, 95.00-4.51, 137.6 acres, land only, taxable $180,000. Paid $3,519.43
The buildings are not listed above. Land only.

105.00-3-1.112, Assessment $267,800., 16 bay hanger plus 3.3 acres, paid $3718.40
105.00-3-44.212 Assessment $393,800., 24 bay hanger plus 0.63 acres, paid $943.76
105.00-3-44.213 Assessment $270,000., bulk hanger plus 0.42 acres, paid $646.45

[DebLemaster]

Based on Erie County tax records, 95.00-4.51, 137.6 acres, land only, taxable $180,000. Paid $3,519.43
The buildings are not listed above. Land only.

105.00-3-1.112, Assessment $267,800., 16 bay hanger plus 3.3 acres, paid $3718.40
105.00-3-44.212 Assessment $393,800., 24 bay hanger plus 0.63 acres, paid $943.76
105.00-3-44.213 Assessment $270,000., bulk hanger plus 0.42 acres, paid $646.45

Keep in mind that they get the same breaks on school taxes....

[gorja]

Based on Erie County tax records, 95.00-4.51, 137.6 acres, land only, taxable $180,000. Paid $3,519.43
The buildings are not listed above. Land only.

105.00-3-1.112, Assessment $267,800., 16 bay hanger plus 3.3 acres, paid $3718.40
105.00-3-44.212 Assessment $393,800., 24 bay hanger plus 0.63 acres, paid $943.76
105.00-3-44.213 Assessment $270,000., bulk hanger plus 0.42 acres, paid $646.45

I can't find 18 Enterprise Dr anywhere except on the county tax site but with no taxes the last 5 years.
On the town assessor site, 95.00-4.51 has a T-hanger 12,000 sq ft floor area, 9500 sq ft pole barn and a mobile home.

[gorja]

I appreciate and share Mrs. L.'s concerns about the airport assessment issue.

But, in the world of assessments, I am still perplexed on the assessments concerning Blackstone, and what I perceive to be mansions assessed as patio homes.

Just sayin'.

I know but I stopped trying to figure how that happened. Especially when you think of condos or patio homes with common or communal property, when these have acres of their own land not communal.

[gorja]

When are the new assessments coming out?
I can't recall if our assessor was doing the commercial properties or the vendor we hired was doing them.

[Neubs24]

Our town highway boys had my branches crunched up 20 minutes after I put them out this morning.
Here, I was worried, it wouldn't get done before another snowfall.

Same here anytime I've put stuff out. Leaves are hit and miss but they usually blow away anyway in my area.

[Neubs24]

Neubs, Yes, I do know that much. I lived there 48 years and I didn't mention anything about a town tax. But you would think that towns that don't have their own police force would have a higher rate of COUNTY tax than those that don't, since they use the county police services.

My guess would be that its because they don't have the same coverage a town with their own PD has. Grand Island for example only has 2 deputies on at a time. And both are supplemented by the NYSP.

[yaksplat]

Here's mine from 2015 - 2020
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2020 Only:
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The attached image looks nicer, but here's a lump of space delimited data as well.

An overall increase of 5.7% from last year, with a 12.3% increase in the county's portion. Sickening.

Description 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020
CONSOLIDATED WATER $1.00 $1.00 $1.00 $1.00 $65.96 $73.62
CONSOLIDATED WATER $51.08 $50.47 $50.36 $62.25 $1.00
COUNTY SERVICE TAX $1,086.22 $1,100.19 $1,134.29 $1,170.42 $1,191.11 $1,337.21
EC 4 FOOTAGE O & M $37.80 $37.80 $44.10 $50.40 $56.70 $59.85
EC SEWER DIST 4 $180.00 $180.00 $0.00 $0.00 $11.07 $9.72
EC SEWER DIST 4 $0.00 $0.00 $14.84 $13.99 $70.80 $74.21
EC SEWER DIST 4 $14.92 $15.58 $75.68 $76.52 $0.00 $0.00
EC SEWER DIST 4 $95.95 $100.10 $190.00 $200.00 $200.00 $202.00
GENERAL FIRE PROT $384.18 $377.51 $368.95 $367.97 $367.41 $368.39
GENERAL LIGHT $25.14 $25.10 $23.00 $28.39 $27.78 $27.66
GENERAL TOWN TAX $566.39 $565.14 $561.94 $574.66 $607.57 $619.77
HIGHWAY & BRIDGE TAX $394.23 $412.11 $420.21 $427.37 $421.88 $438.67
LIBRARY TAX $107.33 $105.87 $105.34 $104.95 $106.67 $117.04
POLICE FUND $339.12 $339.33 $340.05 $332.20 $315.56 $315.62
REFUSE $134.52 $134.75 $138.79 $148.15 $166.88 $170.86
Total Taxes: $3,417.88 $3,444.95 $3,468.55 $3,558.27 $3,610.39 $3,814.62
increase: 0.79% 0.69% 2.59% 1.46% 5.66%

[WNYresident]

It's allowed to continue by the people we have elected throughout NYS.

What the hell already. You see the population loss and what we see on our tax bills.

Some stuff is understandable for spending. We do need sewers to get the poop from our homes... We do need roads... etc.. But there are items we can do without and we can also get a handle on cost of services for labor. Monopolies on labor should not be allowed.

[grump]

No, I only applied for my Senior STAR.

The assessor should have made the airport take her to court instead of caving in without a fight.
64% isn't a little reduction to take lightly.

Grump, did the airport assessment process change between the years 2018 and 2019 that they received the reduction?

I'm wondering what their 2020 reassessment will be.

I don’t even know what the assessment process for airports is, let alone whether it changed.... all I know is that it can’t be comparable to residential assessment because the property types are completely different. Sounds from your posts like the town got its arse handed to it the last time it fought out an assessment battle in court against the airport. Maybe the assessor thought that settling was a smarter course. Many state court judges locally are stunningly lazy and a surprisingly large number are, sad to say, simply dumb. And assessment work actually requires some thought and knowledge. Given that well over 90 % of local judges get their jobs by forking over $$$ to county chairmen rather than on merit one should not expect much from them. And as we’ve seen lately some are more than willing to sell their decision making for things like hockey tickets. It’s reaching the point in the law, between dumbing down admission standards to law school, dumbing down bar admission standards and turning the judicial selection process into a lottery going to the highest bidder, litigants might get a fairer result by resorting to trial by ordeal.

[grump]

It's allowed to continue by the people we have elected throughout NYS.

What the hell already. You see the population loss and what we see on our tax bills.

Some stuff is understandable for spending. We do need sewers to get the poop from our homes... We do need roads... etc.. But there are items we can do without and we can also get a handle on cost of services for labor. Monopolies on labor should not be allowed.

WNY, in San Francisco, Seattle and a bunch of western cities they’ve solved the sewer problem by encouraging people to **** in the streets. The pathetic old woman who thinks she’s a Cherokee who is running in the Democratic Totalitarian primary supports this.

[mark blazejewski]

WNY, in San Francisco, Seattle and a bunch of western cities they’ve solved the sewer problem by encouraging people to **** in the streets. The pathetic old woman who thinks she’s a Cherokee who is running in the Democratic Totalitarian primary supports this.