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    Artificial turf

    I know we have installed turf fields in the past. Just wondering if they have been less labor intensive
    considering the initial cost.

    1/4 million for this one



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    Why is there such a big need for artificial turf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanc View Post
    Why is there such a big need for artificial turf.
    So they don't have such a slop hole in the spring and have to cancel games. That would be my guess.
    This is the last one and it was larger than previous ones. Apparently, the diamond sizes differ from little
    league baseball and softball

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    I go with laziness.

    If they put in proper drainage to begin with, then there are no issues with water. The Turf fields are extremely hot and terrible to play on during the summer. Plenty of brush burns as well.

    They're a huge waste of money and a potential cause of cancer.

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    Ill play on turf over dirt all day and twice on Sunday. The red dirt gives the burns way more than turf. Dirt infield turns to mud regardless of drainage. Turf does not.

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    Looks nice... I don't know if it's really needed though.

    Google is our friend. So I decided to see what it came up with.

    "is natural grass better than artificial turf"

    When compared with artificial turf on playing fields, natural grass provides good traction, which, in this instance is better than the great traction provided by artificial turf which means the turf has no 'give'. The super traction on artificial turf can cause injury.

    Check this out

    · A 2,500 square ft. field of natural grass can release enough oxygen for a family of four for an entire year.
    Seeing NYS including many people want to push the "green" agenda oxygen is a good thing

    · Natural grass absorbs carbon dioxide, which is extremely important when considering the effects of natural vs. artificial grass on global warming.
    Less CO2 the better.

    · Beneficial organisms reside in natural grass and topsoil; these organisms efficiently break down and recycle both inorganic and organic elements which land on the grass.
    That's good thing

    · Natural grass filters rainwater before it flows into the groundwater.
    Even better.

    · Natural grass is much cooler than artificial turf, asphalt, cement or bare dirt.
    We don't want to contribute to global warming, correct?

    · Natural grass repairs and regenerates itself; artificial turf requires expensive repair by specialty contractors.
    As a tax paying property owner I'd rather spend less.


    · When compared with artificial turf on playing fields, natural grass provides good traction, which, in this instance is better than the great traction provided by artificial turf which means the turf has no 'give'. The super traction on artificial turf can cause injury.
    Who wants to open us property owners up to lawsuits. Little Johnny breaks an ankle and you know how lawyers are.

    · Removing and disposing of artificial turf is both difficult and expensive. End-of-life disposal costs for natural grass is a tiny fraction of the cost for artificial turf.
    NO concern for the tax paying property owner. Spend spend spend.




    Go read more of why natural grass is better then Artificial Turf



    https://www.greenhorizons.net/page/b...tificial-turf/



    Where did the idea come up that local schools need Artificial Turf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neubs24 View Post
    Ill play on turf over dirt all day and twice on Sunday. The red dirt gives the burns way more than turf. Dirt infield turns to mud regardless of drainage. Turf does not.
    Your post confuses me.

    When referring to baseball, the dirt is still there, it just has good drainage under it. But you say it turns to mud no matter what.
    You say that dirt burns more than turf, but the dirt will still be there.

    You can't compare turf and grass. Grass wins in every way.

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    Spending $250,000 + dollars and the maintenance year after year and then its only good for 5-6 years.
    Really does not make sense.
    Sliding in dirt or Red Clay is part of the game. Weather is part of the Game. Proper drainage will shed water away and the clay is natural drainage that does not turn to mud.

    Spending too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaksplat View Post
    Your post confuses me.

    When referring to baseball, the dirt is still there, it just has good drainage under it. But you say it turns to mud no matter what.
    You say that dirt burns more than turf, but the dirt will still be there.

    You can't compare turf and grass. Grass wins in every way.
    There is no place that has a combination of dirt and turf that I'm aware of. An artificial field has dirt colored areas where there would normally be real dirt/clay. Red clay tears you up when you slide on it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    https://www.greenhorizons.net/page/b...tificial-turf/



    Where did the idea come up that local schools need Artificial Turf?
    A sod farm is touting the benefits of grass over artificial turf? Shocking!!

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    Real world example... Lancaster Depew week there are 3 football games... Modified (Wed), JV (Thurs) and Varsity (Fri). This year, the modified and JV games were to be held at Lancaster. The modified game was played on Wednesday in a driving rainstorm. They tore up the field so bad that the JV game had to be moved to Depew, which.... is an artificial field.


    https://www.artificialgrassliquidato...ds-are-better/

    Between easy installation and reduced maintenance costs, there are a handful of reasons artificial turf baseball fields are better.

    Natural grass requires quite a bit more ground preparation, water, and ongoing maintenance.

    Because of these disadvantages, some field maintenance crews are looking to artificial turf as a viable solution. Take a look at the following list to learn about the benefits of artificial turf for baseball.

    Artificial Turf Baseball Field Installation Is Easy

    Installation of artificial turf is a breeze.

    You do not need to provide layers of mulch and fertilizer as you do with natural grass. All you need is a layer of gravel as a base to provide a stable surface to the artificial grass, as well as a drainage passage to keep the grass dry.

    High-Quality Playing Surface

    Artificial grass offers a stable and consistent playing surface.

    Artificial grass creates the ideal flat surface for players to work on improving their hitting and pitching skills. Synthetic turf sports fields are safer than natural grass fields as they do not have depressions or bumps like real grass can have.

    Maintenance is a Breeze

    Artificial grass requires simple maintenance.

    With artificial grass, you can avoid time-intensive maintenance that is associated with real grass. This maintenance includes mowing, edge trimming, watering, and more.

    Durable in Most Climates

    Drought prone climates are particularly problematic when it comes to maintenance and care of outdoor sports fields and batting cages that use natural grass. Synthetic turf does have the water needs that natural grass requires. It will look great and function well in all climates. Artificial grass will not get destroyed in the rain or after heavy storms.

    Excellent value for money

    Artificial grass offers a great return on investment.

    This is because artificial turf is durable and lasts for a long time. It is highly resilient and able to withstand the rigor associated with sports. While the initial investment can be high, in the long run, businesses save money with artificial grass. This is because artificial turf does not need lawn maintenance, such as mowing, weeding, irrigation, or pesticides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neubs24 View Post
    A sod farm is touting the benefits of grass over artificial turf? Shocking!!
    But the reasons stated make sense.

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    Spending $250,000 for artificial turf is a lot of money. Considering the town has already added drainage to Walden Pond, someone should have questioned the board on the necessity instead of drawing pro and con conclusions from Internet sources.

    The 5-member town board voted unanimously to approve the resolution. This is not the first-time artificial turf has been installed on a Lancaster field. The artificial turf certainly adds to playing use opportunity and extends season use.

    The following questions should have been put to the board on the resolution Monday evening:

    Comparative maintenance prep time.

    Comparative injury risk and data.

    Life expectancy of an artificial infield turf – 5 years until replacement is untrue.

    Cost of artificial turf vs. grass infield over the expected lifetime of the artificial turf.

    The money spent for the project comes out of the Recreation Filing Fees and does not impact the budget. How much money remains in that fund?

    The town has been claiming for years that more fields are needed. Three years ago, there was movement to purchase land and build more fields. There has been no mention of that in the past year. Why?

    In the recent election campaign, all council candidates spoke on the need for transparency and better communication with the community. With the exception of one resident asking a question on the budget, no one chose to address the board on any of the 25 pre-file resolutions, or at the public comment session, and the meeting ended in 35 minutes. Sad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neubs24 View Post
    There is no place that has a combination of dirt and turf that I'm aware of. An artificial field has dirt colored areas where there would normally be real dirt/clay. Red clay tears you up when you slide on it.


    Wow, that looks horrible.

    It's just wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaksplat View Post
    Wow, that looks horrible.

    It's just wrong.
    Indeed, not a pretty sight / site.

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