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    Don't call them illegal aliens

    So how would you refer to them?

    Bill would mandate nicer term for illegals

    TALLAHASSEE -- A state legislator whose district is home to thousands of Caribbean immigrants wants to ban the term "illegal alien" from the state's official documents.

    "I personally find the word 'alien' offensive when applied to individuals, especially to children," said Sen. Frederica Wilson, D-Miami. "An alien to me is someone from out of space."

    She has introduced a bill providing that: "A state agency or official may not use the term 'illegal alien' in an official document of the state." There would be no penalty for using the words.

    In Miami-Dade County, Wilson said, "we don't say 'alien,' we say 'immigrant.'"
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    As long as the word "illegal" remains in front of whatever you call the "illegals", I don't care what you call them.
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    After we set English as the official language, we'll send Frederica Wilson to the first training class...

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    Bad enough that she's wasting Florida's time with pointless semantics, but you're wasting our bandwidth just to cover the same stupid semantics???

    yes, Res....idiots abound, and ever so often, one of them will squeek loud enough to be heard. is this really news to you? I mean, look how much Timmy Muuuuurek has posted here....
    But your being a dick
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    News in the sense that look how elected officials just waste our time while we pay them.

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    It just goes to show that liberalism is a mental disease!

    It just goes to show that liberalism is a mental disease!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy
    It just goes to show that liberalism is a mental disease!
    it's not a disease. What it does is make people weak. That entitlement mentality only goes so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy
    It just goes to show that liberalism is a mental disease!
    Liberalism emphasizes individual freedom and limited government. Modern liberalism, thank you FDR, is the twisted version of liberalism that advocates big government poking its nose in every portion of your life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DelawareDistrict
    Liberalism emphasizes individual freedom and limited government. Modern liberalism, thank you FDR, is the twisted version of liberalism that advocates big government poking its nose in every portion of your life.
    As opposed to a blanket of laws without the freedoms?

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    Had a criminal procedures instructor who hated the word illegal. He would say "illegal refers to a sick bird of prey. Actions that run contrary to a law are unlawful."

    So I guess we could use unlawful alien.
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    What good is it for the U.S.A. if it were to give amnesty to illegals with little or no education? How does this benefit this country in any way? Why do other countries screen potential immigrants and want those only with a higher education than being able to count to three? Write your amnesty supporting politician and ask them these questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DR_GONZO
    What good is it for the U.S.A. if it were to give amnesty to illegals with little or no education? How does this benefit this country in any way? Why do other countries screen potential immigrants and want those only with a higher education than being able to count to three? Write your amnesty supporting politician and ask them these questions.
    I copied this from Rense this morning. Why don't you ask them why this is allowed as well?

    US Truckers Screwed By Bush

    By Frosty Wooldridge
    3-5-7
    President Bush announced that Mexican truck drivers will be allowed on America's highways within sixty days. Soon, he'll announce that Mexican drivers will "do the jobs that American truckers won't do."
    How many ways can an American president screw his own citizens? On Bush's watch, America's poor suffer job losses in landscaping, construction, dry wall, hotel, restaurant, lawn mowing, retail, fast food, roofing, taxi and dozens of other trades. On Bush's watch, outsourcing, insourcing and offshoring work cost American citizens 1,000,000 jobs. On Bush's watch, America's manufacturing sector lost 3 million jobs. On Bush's watch, over 10 million illegal aliens crossed our borders in six years. On Bush's watch, hundreds of thousands of killers, drug dealers, rapists and child molesters roam free in America.
    Now, President Bush drives his serrated knife into the heart of American truckers.
    Why? Soon, Mexican truck drivers will undercut wages of all American truckers, just like Mexicans destabilize wages from construction workers, roofers, landscapers and other trades.
    This is a reality check from a man who has driven the big rigs across 48 states. As a teacher in the 70s, my salary at $5,400.00 a year, barely kept me above the poverty line. Each summer for 24 years, I loaded, drove 1,500 to 2,000 miles across America, and unloaded for United Van Lines. I busted my hump. I worked 70 to 100 hours a week. Don't tell the DOT. I earned four times as much money in three months as I made in nine months teaching math and science.
    What did I discover? American truckers consist of the finest, most dedicated and outstanding professionals in the world. Their office is America's Interstates. They've got to be 100 percent perfect 10 hours a day as they drive 40,000 pounds of freight down the expressway. "Breaker one nine, you got the Rubber Duck here; what's your 20?" CB radios make up their communication network. They listen to country and western music; wear cowboy boots and baseball caps. Truckers fill your life with food, clothing, cars, gasoline, mail and everything else. America moves by trucks. I still carry my CDL.
    As a teacher and a trucker, you need to know what I know. The average Mexican trucker tops out with a 6th grade education in a foreign language with Third World educational standards. For starters, 63 percent of Mexico's 104 million people remain illiterate. What does a 6th grader think about? Mostly: me, now and perhaps recess in ten minutes. They lack critical thinking skills and cognitive reasoning of an adult.
    That means Bush allows thousands of substandard, uneducated Mexican truck drivers on America's highways at 70 milers per hour carrying 40,000 pounds of freight. It means that every accident they cause will leave American families as collateral damage.
    You can expect the following:
    Bush allows substandard, uninspected 18 wheeler trucks on America's highways driven by drivers who read and write in Spanish at a 6th grade level, but allows them to give a safety check of their trucks from a Third World perspective. That's like giving your 6th grader the keys to the car and tell him to be careful as he drives through downtown Denver at rush hour.
    Bush allows thousands of Mexican drivers who have never seen a snow storm or driven in our insane traffic. That's like giving your 6th grader the keys to your car and have him learn how to drive in a snow storm in downtown Chicago.
    How about Mexican drivers delivering tons of drugs into our country in false bottomed or walled trailers?
    How about Mexican truck drivers delivering even more illegal aliens?
    Mexicans possess an unusual propensity for drinking. How many of you want to drive on the same road as a hung over or drunk Mexican truck driver?
    How about terrorists paying Mexican drivers to carry WMD into the USA?
    As soon as Mexican drivers establish themselves, American trucking companies will start hiring them for half or even a third of American wages. The reasoning will be, "Mexican truckers drive cheaper."
    Soon, Bush will say, "Mexican truckers do the jobs that Americans won't do."
    Somewhere in the middle of this little shindig Bush created, American truckers will strike back. Their anger will seethe below the surface as they drive down the Interstate. They'll see Mexicans at their truck stops. They hear them speaking another language. They'll see Mexican flags in Mexican trucks. They'll see baseball caps that read, "Your New America."
    First you'll hear of an incident where an American trucker cut the air lines or deflated the tires on a Mexican truck. Then, you'll hear of huge pileup with a Mexican truck. Later, you'll hear about American truckers playing cowboy football with their leather boots with Mexican drivers used for the pigskin. Following that, you'll hear about riots in the truck stops with American truckers busting Mexican heads.
    It's not too much for illegal aliens taking away hotel jobs from American workers, landscapers, drywallers, painters and fast food workers. It's yet another thing to take jobs away from American truckers. Four million truckers' families depend on a living wage that will be taken away by Mexican drivers. American truckers are big, smart, savvy and protect their own. They're not going to take kindly of Mexican truck drivers horning in on their work.
    Bush made huge mistakes; 9/11, WMD, Iraq, open borders, total failure with Katrina, 'the surge,' federal debt, outsourcing our jobs, homeless, America's schools, hospitals overwhelmed, prisons overloaded with illegals, American deaths from drunken illegals and much worse.
    But giving Mexican trucker drivers jobs over our American truckers will prove a national disaster. It proves to me that Bush doesn't understand nor does he care about American workers and he most certainly doesn't care about American truckers. That's a big ten four!
    What you can do for a better future for your country:
    A republican form of government is not a spectator sport. It means you must jump in, roll up you sleeves and take personal and collective action. Of course, you could let a dictator take over and do everything for you, but that path would give you Cuba, China, North Korea and other unsavory examples.
    To stop Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid from giving an amnesty, take action.
    CALL Nancy Pelosi: Washington, DC - (202) 225-4965
    San Francisco, CA - (415) 556-4862; Email Nancy Pelosi [email protected]; Email form for Nancy Pelosi; http://www.house.gov/pelosi/contact/contact.html
    Senator Harry Reid: 202 224 3121 in Washington DC; 775 686 5750 in Reno, NV;
    George Bush 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, NW Washington, DC 20500 [email protected]
    Comments: 202-456-1111 Switchboard for live listener: 202 456 1414 Fax: 202-456-2461
    We must 'sour the milk.' Bring out your points in the call:
    1. America cannot support another 100 million people added to our country in 34 years, i.e., water crisis, resource depletion, air pollution, gridlock, loss of quality of life, etc.
    2. America cannot support lawbreakers being given citizenship.
    3. America must maintain our English language.
    4. America wants only legal immigrants who play by the rules and speak English.
    5. America's working poor deserve a chance at jobs taken by illegals.
    6. America already has too many people and I support a 10 year moratorium on all immigration.
    7. Americans must maintain our schools for our children.
    8. We can no longer tolerate 350,000 birthright citizens (anchor babies) annually that subtract from our own citizens.
    9. Attrition through enforcement by stopping their ability to wire money home, obtain rental housing and jobs.
    10. An amnesty failed in 1986, and it will only be worse today. We're being displaced out of our jobs and out of our own country. Call with relentless and never-give-up passion.
    To reduce illegal aliens in your community, you may follow the course of action by Mayor Louis Barletta of Hazelton, PA. He offers a bomb proof ordinance that takes business licenses away from those who hire illegals. He legally halts landlords from renting to illegals. Without work and without housing, illegals cannot stay in your community. Check out his website for instructions: www.SmallTownDefenders.com/public/node/6
    Visit D.A. King at the www.thedustininmansociety.org to see how Georgia created the best laws to stop illegals at the state level.
    Please check out William Gheen at www.alipac.us. He's a mover and shaker. He will direct you to specific actions that make you more powerful and effective.
    To stop this invasion locally and nationally: join www.numbersusa.com for free and you can join www.fairus.org and www.thesocialcontract.com
    Wooldridge presents a 45 minute program to colleges, high schools, civic clubs, church groups and political clubs across America titled: "COMING POPULATION CRISIS IN AMERICA: WHAT YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT." Go to his website for further information on booking the program. www.frostywooldridge.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by speaker
    As opposed to a blanket of laws without the freedoms?
    A blanket of laws without the freedoms is what we have now.
    The path is clear
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    And so with gods and men
    The sheep remain inside their pen,
    Though many times they've seen the way to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northshore
    Had a criminal procedures instructor who hated the word illegal. He would say "illegal refers to a sick bird of prey. Actions that run contrary to a law are unlawful."

    So I guess we could use unlawful alien.
    Good point, however if they were lawful would we even be calling them aliens?
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    DelawareDistrict, I think your confusing liberalism with libertarianism

    DelawareDistrict, I think your confusing liberalism with libertarianism

    and I think your assignations about FDR are incorrect...its not FDR that destroyed liberalism but Johnson and his great society.....there is a HUGE difference between a social safety net versus a communist type of great society which really began with Johnson.

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