Todaro is circulating lies; must be election season

[Breezy]

Been a life-long ‘blank. You should know that as I have posted that numerous times.

That does not make it OK to attack others who have made changes. Just saying.

I try Robert, but it is difficult when one has this political agenda independency; not being beholden to anyone. You know what I mean.

You are so full of it. You have an agenda and always have and everyone knows that. Just check out Had Enough Yet! Like I say before my name is not Robert or Bobby. You got that wrong, too. Maybe I'll start calling you and Mark - - - June Chapman. It seems to fit.

[mark blazejewski]

The rest of this claptrap by Lee and Mark is just that, claptrap.

That from Erie County's premier distributor of crappola.

That's it.

Does that mean you are not going to answer this question?...

Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec

Hey Breezy: What do you think? Is Terranova getting screwed over by her / your party? If not, why not. You have the inside track as a political operative. Educate us!

[mark blazejewski]

Maybe I'll start calling you and Mark - - - June Chapman. It seems to fit.

June and I look forward to having you join the group.

Here are the rules of conduct:

Make New York Red members: This group was formed to show solidarity and to take action against the corruption and those attempting to dismantle our state. There is a zero tolerance policy if you bully, are vulgar, or disrespect any member of the group. We're better than that.

Read them, understand them, and follow them, and you are more than welcome.

Just my opinion, personally, I don't think you will be able to cut it, but there are almost 3,000 members to guide you.

[gorja]

In my opinion. Mr Bruso donated the Dirschberger donations to a charity of his choice because it
was the right thing to do. He did this without bringing attention to himself until he had to when Todaro made his claims.

Some people do do the right thing because it's right not for the accolades for doing it.

[mark blazejewski]

In my opinion. Mr Bruso donated the Dirschberger donations to a charity of his choice because it was the right thing to do. He did this without bringing attention to himself until he had to when Todaro made his claims.

Some people do do the right thing because it's right not for the accolades for doing it.

If his donation was so strictly confidential, you need to explain this seeming breach of secrecy in April, 2018...

Quote Originally Posted by Breezy

The Dems - from what I understand from friends in the Dem Party donated the money to charity, anyway, plus some!

https://www.speakupwny.com/forums/sh...liticians+2018

Did the politicos have more an entitlement to the knowledge of Bruso's purported confidential redress than the survivor, the voters who elected him, and all who are impacted by the public trust they place in Mr. Bruso?

Did not the survivor and the voters have a right to know that their Legislator publicly rebuked her assailant, who now stands a convicted felon?

Perhaps that public disclosure would have assisted the survivor in the healing process, and fostered confidence in the elected official?

Again, I observe...

It is curious that Mr. Bruso made his actions known to those inside Democrat circles, but seemingly chose to withhold that information from the survivor, and from the broad base of the voters to whom he pledged transparency in 2017.

IMHO, Bruso's nearly two-year lack of clarity did not well serve the interests of the survivor, the voters, and the broad public interest, nor did it do honor to his 2017 campaign commitment to transparency.

I leave you with Frank Todaro's words from his August 22, 2019 statement...

"Survivors everywhere should know that their elected leaders have integrity."

[shortstuff]

You come off as pretty judgmental to posters who change their party affiliation.

What's wrong with that? A lot of commenters on here have said they changed their party over time.

Have you never changed?

Maybe this is something you should think about and perhaps mind your own business about. It's every bit their right to do at any time.

People also move away, temp or perm, and still post here. Why not go after leftWNYbecauseofBS who, I believe, lives in North Carolina, yet still posts on Speakup all the time. He/She has every right to move and still chime in here, even though I can't say I like what He/She writes. I was away over the winter helping a relative and only chimed in a bit, but I remain a member of Speakup, as does shortstuff - who does have a fan base here of people wanting to hear her thoughts, which sometimes do match yours.

You are coming off as a bit pushy here.

You can do better, Lee.

You pretty much nailed it here Breezy. And I am fine with you not agreeing with my message. I have on many occasions not liked what you have written in the past as well. That being said, you have a knack to pull out the best or the worst in people when you express a narrative.

I am a member on Speakup, I also still pay very high taxes in Lancaster as I still own property in the town. I have a stake in the game. I also have a voice, at times I do speakup. Mark & Lee have become the bully's on Speakup. Much like how the Republican/Conservative Party have become. I had very strong convictions in both parties in the past, unfortunately I have seen those two parties fall down a dark hole. Leaving the Republican Party to go to the Conservative Party was a decision I made and it was to "help" bridge both parties to work in concert with each other. It worked, but then somewhere along the lines, their objective changed.

I have always supported the person over the party. I have seen Ruffino grow throughout the years. Yes he has made mistakes. But if you take a look at his voting record, you will find him to be (as a Democrat) the most fiscally conservative member on that board. I have seen Ruffino integrate into the community and throughout his tenure, he has become exactly the person I would advocate as the Supervisor for the Town of Lancaster. He has merit and skin in the game. He has earned his wings, therefore he should be the person to run this town. Kristen McCracken has proven herself on the Planning Board. She has made strides in her commitment to this town. I did not look at her last name, I looked at her record and I have been impressed. She will be a great asset on that Town Board and with her insightfulness, she work well with the other board members.

Make no mistake, when I look at supporting a person, I look at their record. When I see how Dawn G. has voted, one can only scratch their head and say to themselves, "isn't she a registered Conservative, why is she voting liberally every single time?" I look at how she performed as the Coordinator in the Village of Lancaster where she mishandled the money for the food pantry over the holidays, puts me on point - she will not be the Supervisor for the Town of Lancaster as her misuse of that money will be her palm card - the voters in the Town of Lancaster will not allow her to misuse their money so carelessly as she misused the pantry's money. That is a fact, Mark & Lee know that and it is shameful that those two would support a person like that to be the CEO of a large town. I have lost so much respect for those two, as many have.

[mark blazejewski]

I told your new found friend "Breezy" to share his sage advise with you...

Quote Originally Posted by Breezy

... You need to relax somewhat...

...Are you sure such an endeavor like this forum is a good place...? Maybe you need a little rest,little buddy, and not get into such back and forth, maybe you need less stress.

...maybe you need to stop writing if you can't handle the resulting pushback. For YOUR health, that it.

No more "Waaaaa, waaaaa, waaaaa."

[mark blazejewski]

Mark & Lee have become the bully's on Speakup.

Among your many written mis-speaks and contradictions, is the above, which can be easily corrected.

Your spelling of "bully's" is seemingly incorrect. The plural of "bully" is spelled "b-u-l-l-i-e-s."

As John Bruso would say, "DO YOUR HOMEWORK!"

[mark blazejewski]

I look at how she performed as the Coordinator in the Village of Lancaster where she mishandled the money for the food pantry over the holidays, puts me on point - she will not be the Supervisor for the Town of Lancaster as her misuse of that money will be her palm card -

Speak of a "palm card" Shorstuff, you seem to have showed yours and/or Ruffino's hand, just my opinion of course!

Is this what the Food Pantry issue of 2015 is all about in 2019: Cheap, opportunistic politics?

You know those issues were satisfactorily resolved by the Lancaster Village Board in 2015, litigated by the voters that same year, and no thanks to Ron Ruffino who, in 2015, as an incumbent Town Council Member, I understand expressed no contemporaneous public concern regarding the issue that year.

From RUFFINO, I heard only CRICKETS!

Why all the purported Ruffino concern now, in 2019 about an issue from 2015, which Ruffino seemingly did not consider worthy or important enough for public discourse at that time, back in 2015?

Hmmmm???

But, not bad! It took him and/or his campaign surrogates only four years to express that ostensible 2015 concern. Compare that to the fourteen years it took him to become an opportunistic "fiscal conservative."

You are a walking gaffe Shortstuff; Ruffino is a man who appears to be always "a day late and a dollar short."

[Lee Chowaniec]

That does not make it OK to attack others who have made changes. Just saying.

You are so full of it. You have an agenda and always have and everyone knows that. Just check out Had Enough Yet! Like I say before my name is not Robert or Bobby. You got that wrong, too. Maybe I'll start calling you and Mark - - - June Chapman. It seems to fit.

Tsk, tsk, got your dander up a bit, eh?

Who have I attacked?

What is my agenda - that you say everyone knows?

Like so many times in the past my questions will go unanswered and you will move on to making more snarky, baseless allegations. Like: What do you think? Is Terranova getting screwed over by her / your party? If not, why not. You have the inside track as a political operative. Educate us!

How about your thoughts on the Democratic Party not promising Terranova any support; be it financial or other? I am planning on voting for Terranova, is that a bad move? Is a Democratic Party operative advising me not to vote for one of his own?

[Lee Chowaniec]

You pretty much nailed it here Breezy. And I am fine with you not agreeing with my message. I have on many occasions not liked what you have written in the past as well. That being said, you have a knack to pull out the best or the worst in people when you express a narrative.

I am a member on Speakup, I also still pay very high taxes in Lancaster as I still own property in the town. I have a stake in the game. I also have a voice, at times I do speakup. Mark & Lee have become the bully's on Speakup. Much like how the Republican/Conservative Party have become. I had very strong convictions in both parties in the past, unfortunately I have seen those two parties fall down a dark hole. Leaving the Republican Party to go to the Conservative Party was a decision I made and it was to "help" bridge both parties to work in concert with each other. It worked, but then somewhere along the lines, their objective changed.

I have always supported the person over the party. I have seen Ruffino grow throughout the years. Yes he has made mistakes. But if you take a look at his voting record, you will find him to be (as a Democrat) the most fiscally conservative member on that board. I have seen Ruffino integrate into the community and throughout his tenure, he has become exactly the person I would advocate as the Supervisor for the Town of Lancaster. He has merit and skin in the game. He has earned his wings, therefore he should be the person to run this town. Kristen McCracken has proven herself on the Planning Board. She has made strides in her commitment to this town. I did not look at her last name, I looked at her record and I have been impressed. She will be a great asset on that Town Board and with her insightfulness, she work well with the other board members.

Make no mistake, when I look at supporting a person, I look at their record. When I see how Dawn G. has voted, one can only scratch their head and say to themselves, "isn't she a registered Conservative, why is she voting liberally every single time?" I look at how she performed as the Coordinator in the Village of Lancaster where she mishandled the money for the food pantry over the holidays, puts me on point - she will not be the Supervisor for the Town of Lancaster as her misuse of that money will be her palm card - the voters in the Town of Lancaster will not allow her to misuse their money so carelessly as she misused the pantry's money. That is a fact, Mark & Lee know that and it is shameful that those two would support a person like that to be the CEO of a large town. I have lost so much respect for those two, as many have.

My question to you in post #27 was not an attack but a simple question:

“Seeing you left the Republican Party to join the Conservative Party, now seem to attack the Conservative Party and favor the Democratic Party, will soon be leaving Lancaster to move to your Florida home, what or who are you? You used to curse those Democrats out for myriad reasons, what has changed?”

Your response for the most part was sensible and appreciated. But to then digress and label me a bully and later in the post to disparage me was unexpected and unwarranted.

You have been inconsistent and vague in your recent posts and I sought clarification as to what’s changed where you now have taken a different political direction.

I will not respond in like snarky tone – just voicing my disappointment.

[mark blazejewski]

I have always supported the person over the party. I have seen Ruffino grow throughout the years. Yes he has made mistakes. But if you take a look at his voting record, you will find him to be (as a Democrat) the most fiscally conservative member on that board. I have seen Ruffino integrate into the community and throughout his tenure, he has become exactly the person I would advocate as the Supervisor for the Town of Lancaster. He has merit and skin in the game. He has earned his wings, therefore he should be the person to run this town. Kristen McCracken has proven herself on the Planning Board.

What a train wreck of a paragraph!

I have seen Ruffino grow throughout the years.

Do you mean in physical weight?

If so, I agree. I think he looks good. He was IMHO, too skinny in 2001.

Yes he has made mistakes.

YES, to say the least, and calling Colecraft a "mistake" is analogous to saying that 911 was an unpleasant day.

. you will find him to be (as a Democrat) the most fiscally conservative member on that board.

Whoa, that is a super "Shortstuffism."

As your new friend "Breezy" would say: "Big Deal!"


If you are measuring his application of "Democrat " fiscal conservatism against contemporary Democrat spending standards, ya at this point in time, as a Democrat, he does not quite mirror the extremist, Socialist/Communist rantings coming from the likes of Bernie Sanders and AOC.
The remaining "C," "R," and at times the "Blank" appear, IMHO, for the most part, common-sensed, responsible fiscal custodians.

Ruffino on the other hand and his "Democrat" brand of fiscal conservatism represents, IMHO, a great deal of meaningless, showboat BS, with his so-called conservative positions applied to issues that he most probably knew would go untested, such as the much exaggerated and heralded tax cap thingy; a vote which I would term as an exercise in "reckless conservatism."

.I have seen Ruffino integrate into the community...throughout his tenure,

Eeeck, another beauty!

Are you saying that Ruffino was not a Lancaster resident when elected, and only slowly integrated into the Lancaster community?

Ah, so that may explain his past absences on budget votes and his liberal, long time tax and spend liberal record?

Good grief, no wonder, perhaps he did not care about voting on the 2003 and 2004 budgets, and indifferently missed those roll calls? Nut, ( an uncorrected mistake based on a Freudian slip, it should be "But") no worries, he then voted "YES" to an unbroken string of eight high tax and spend Giza budgets.

Hey, if I did not have to be impacted by my own screw-ups, I may have been reckless and indifferent too.

He has...merit and skin in the game.

Is the"merit" you refer to like "merit" in...

Quote Originally Posted by Breezy
"earning a merit badge!"

...and is the "skin in the game" like having a vested interest in increasing his pension?

He has earned his wings

And if elected, I'll bet his metaphorical droppings will fall on the statues, the streets, the beasts, the residents, and the taxpayers of Lancaster.

therefore he should be the person to run this town.

ONLY if he is unwisely elected...

...but...

, I did not look at her last name,

...may be you had better look at that last name and think about who may actually run the town before you cast your vote for supervisor?

Are you sure you are on Ruffino's side Shortstuff?

[Lee Chowaniec]

[QUOTE=gorja;1888655]

I don't deny Ruffino's earlier years. On many occasions over the past few years, you have commented nad commended Ruffino for his votes for fiscal conservatism.

It is impossible to deny / consider Ruffino’s 14 years prior to becoming the fiscal conservative he now claims to be in the past two years.

Indeed, I complimented Ruffino for his votes on fiscal conservatism. That doesn’t wash away 14 years of past wasteful spending decisions as a board member or voting for development projects that favored ‘dumb’ growth and favored developer best interests over that of the community and environment

It now seems that the Democratic leadership and its personal issues with our Diane Terranova somehow erases everything you said good about Ruffino.

That is your perception and opinion. That was a dumb move by the Lancaster Democratic Party leadership. That has nothing to do with Ruffino – facts are facts.

I am hard pressed to find where you and others have seen Gaczewski vote in line with 'Conservative values' since she has been on the board.

Here I agree with you. I have yet to hear Gaczewski publicly exhibit conservative core values. On her palm card she writes: “Believe strongly in better communication between the residents and YOUR government”. Need to hear more from Gaczewski and less from Ruffino and the Supervisor.

In my 20 years of involvement in Lancaster politics, the current town board is the most diverse regarding party affiliation – two Democrats, one Republican, one Conservative and a ‘blank’. And yet the hiring and spending continue to increase.

How will she and he vote Tuesday on Resolution #8 in making the Forestry supervisor position and the Assistant Park crew chief position part time permanent?

How will any of them vote and how many will voice reasons for their vote sounds more appropriate to me. You have heard of ‘throw-away’ votes, right?

Do we really need a Forestry supervisor and an Assistant park crew chief through the winter? I don't know the answer just putting the question out there.

Hopefully, you or someone will address the board on that very question at the regular meeting public comment session before the resolution voting takes place. The public should be informed on how / why their tax dollars are being spent.

Supervisor Coleman is sponsoring this resolution (#8). Actually, there are 4 employee positions proposed to go from part-time to part-time permanent:

Assistant Park Crew Chief $18.50
Forestry Supervisor $28.00
Laborer - $13.00
Laborer - $14.42

By my figures that’s a total annual spending increase of $40,268 – Assistant Crew Chief and Forestry Supervisor making up $24,482 of the total increase and $15,786 for the two laborers. Not a significant payroll increase, but one needing justification and accountability – and, whether in fact some modification in staffing will help offset this spending increase.

As Supervisor Coleman is proposing this resolution, she will likely answer any public questions – should there be any. Mr. Ruffino will likely comment. This would be the time to ask council member Gaczewski her opinion.

Ten weeks to election day. Outside of Terranova, I have favored no candidate. It is time for all of them to make their case why we should consider voting for them. People can question or comment on my opinion. Making allegations is another thing. Especially tired of politicos pissing on my leg while telling me it's raining.

[mark blazejewski]

They sure stick out in history: Fudoli and Brainard...
Ha! Conservative Christian values for sure!!!!!

NOT!

Thank God the rank and file Conservative Party voters DID NOT listen to the so-called leaders of their party for Town Supervisor.

Speaking of pesky words of the past and history, just some of my thoughts, views and opinions. Take a look at this historic Democrat cast of characters...

Joe M. was not the answer for the Dems in this year's election. I don't think Mark Aquino was the answer, either.

But, Joe M., even before this recent scandal, would have lost the election for what gorja says here, anyway. In a way, both of these two pols now out of the way is the bright side for the Lancaster Dems, that is in order for the Dems to hold onto control, just in my view, as they say.

Just think, I bet gorja was all ready for Mark A. this year anyway, and probably had more thunder with the ethical issues and Mark A. running for re-election and all. So, all that good ammo is OUT of the equation.

And the GOP was probably ready, too, and against Joe M., with his political/governmental history and generous county salary. I would have ran Bob Giza for council, or his kid, before Mark A. or Joe M.

...and even more history...

Hmmm...

Two Lancaster residents were arrested Monday and charged with promoting gambling and possession of gambling records.

Paul Rath, 31, of 5440 Broadway and Ronald Giza, 33, of 61 Lombardy St. were arraigned before Lancaster Village Justice Ann Detzler and released on their own recognizance.

The arrests followed a lengthy investigation by Town and Village of Lancaster police and Lt. Vance Scioli of the Village of Depew police. Police accused Rath of running a bookmaking operation from his apartment over the Lancaster Boys & Girls Club on Broadway. According to police, gambling records and $2,500 in cash were seized from Rath's apartment in a raid last week.

https://buffalonews.com/1992/03/16/2...ting-gambling/

What is it that Santayana said?...

"Those Who Do Not Learn History Are Doomed To Repeat It."

...yep, that pesky, pesky history, YIKES!

[gorja]

Originally posted by Lee Chowaniec:
Supervisor Coleman is sponsoring this resolution (#8). Actually, there are 4 employee positions proposed to go from part-time to part-time permanent:

Assistant Park Crew Chief $18.50
Forestry Supervisor $28.00
Laborer - $13.00
Laborer - $14.42

The two laborers have been part time permanent employees in the past.