Food Stamps and Why Trump is going to win again...

[WNYresident]

I do understand where they are coming from on this part.

"So you want to save money so you can buy a car, and you want you to put that money in the bank," she said. "Now, when it's time for you to get recertified for food stamps, we would get the bank statement, and we would end up having to deny them their food stamps because maybe they had $3,000 in the bank."

Jerry Zremski
A second part of the proposal would reimpose an asset limit test for the program. Families with any members over the age of 60 would be disqualified from the program if they had more than $3,500 in cash assets, while all other families would lose their benefits if their cash assets exceed $2,250.

When they say cash assets do they literally mean "cash" in a bank account or like "net worth" of cash value?

Personally I think that's low as an amount goes if they are referring to physical cash on hand. IE:checkbook or cash in a mattress.

But then again if someone who is 60 is living in a 250,000 home but can't make ends meet shouldn't they sell that home and live off the proceeds? But then again it is an assessment of what they think it could sell for.

So if that person has 1500 in cash in the checkbook but a large home loaded with toys but low income do they still qualify?

[WNYresident]

In the end we have too much pandering in politics with other people's money.

[leftWNYbecauseofBS]

So if that person has 1500 in cash in the checkbook but a large home loaded with toys but low income do they still qualify?

Silly Res. They put the SUV in their grandmothers name. The baby daddy is just a roommate and he pays for his stuff in cash. The baby momma gets the benefits.

[WNYresident]

Well with that said (remember I'm way naive on this) how will the new rules curb the fraud?

[grump]

Silly Res. They put the SUV in their grandmothers name. The baby daddy is just a roommate and he pays for his stuff in cash. The baby momma gets the benefits.

Leftie, it’s usually baby daddies, not “daddy”! And they’re almost never around unless they’re running from the law or looking to get their ashes hauled. This whole program should be scratched completely. One can’t defraud a program that doesn’t exist. All these types of programs do is make the world safe for clerks.

[joe d.]

Leftie, it’s usually baby daddies, not “daddy”! And they’re almost never around unless they’re running from the law or looking to get their ashes hauled. This whole program should be scratched completely. One can’t defraud a program that doesn’t exist. All these types of programs do is make the world safe for clerks.

Generation after generation welfare families...the young girls get pregnant...with no clue who the father is..go downtown and apply for the generous benefits...after awhile realize what a good thing...sit at home and let taxpayers provide a living for them...realizing that, have more children...father unknown, or if known..takes no responsibility for his actions, most likely because he doesnt have a job, or an education to acquire one...living off the streets any way he can....and the ball keeps rolling ...courtesy of the taxpayers.!! TRUMP.....save us from this country imploding!

[WNYresident]

. One can’t defraud a program that doesn’t exist. All these types of programs do is make the world safe for clerks.

So what is your answer for people who literally grow old but have no family and just can't earn a living. No fault of their own.

[WNYresident]

Generation after generation welfare families...the young girls get pregnant...with no clue who the father is..go downtown and apply for the generous benefits...after awhile realize what a good thing...sit at home and let taxpayers provide a living for them...realizing that, have more children...father unknown, or if known..takes no responsibility for his actions, most likely because he doesnt have a job, or an education to acquire one...living off the streets any way he can....and the ball keeps rolling ...courtesy of the taxpayers.!! TRUMP.....save us from this country imploding!

I see what you mean and totally understand what your pointing out. How many cases do you think exist of this in erie county?

[joe d.]

I see what you mean and totally understand what your pointing out. How many cases do you think exist of this in erie county?

Just look around...ask any landlord in the City..every time you see a food drive, or fill the back pack program because children arent being fed on weekends? , and during the school year, where the taxpayer now even pays for breakfasts or school supplies/back packs, or Wegmans program...buy a bag of groceries to donate to a needy family. Social programs, hand outs, subsidize the day to day living, why get an education, why get a job, when you can live for free.
Now free college tuition??/ this society needs skilled trades, people who are trained to work with their hands...the leaders of this city, state and school board are so ignorant...there should be a major push to train mechanics,Burgard H.S, HVAC at McKinley, electricians/Seneca H.S. etc That is not happening and it will take its toll in the near future.

[WNYresident]

The free college tuition is a bit much. I can see some type of scholar ship for gifted kids but not free for just breathing.

[grump]

So what is your answer for people who literally grow old but have no family and just can't earn a living. No fault of their own.

WNY, it’s no fault of their own but it’s not my fault either. Why should I pay for it? The solution to the issue and so many others is private charity. If Democratic Totalitarians weren’t busy trying to wipe them out and replace them with mandatory government controlled programs to be used to manipulate and control people then private charity would be able to handle these problems. And the mere existence of the problem you pose doesn’t justify a a corrupt system like food stamps where baby momma is rewarded by the government with ever more benefits for cranking out ever more future cases of morbid obesity.

[Mr. Lackawanna]

I just can't understand why we have groups that think giving way other people's money is the answer to everything.

It is called buying votes.

[leftWNYbecauseofBS]

The free college tuition is a bit much. I can see some type of scholarship for gifted kids but not free for just breathing.

It's a pathetic pandering mess of an idea built on poor logic.

The reason why so many people have crushing student debt is because the cost of college is too high. The reason the cost of college is too high is because the Federal Government backed student loans to people but did nothing to check the price the Universities charged.

Take the SUNY system and more specifically UB as an example. For in-state students the cost per year of full time status when room/board/fees is accounted for is $24,314. On-Campus Room/Board/Living Allowance and Fees is 71% of the annual cost. That is the problem. The 'education' costs a very, very affordable $6,870 per year but the 'overhead' costs $17,444. This is due to the overhead bloat of administration costs. 18 of the 50 highest paid state employees in Upstate work for UB. Way too many make over $200,000 per year. Even more make more than $100,000 a year. It's all just bloat.

If the Federal Government wants to be radical in their changes they should limit their backing to state universities that implement cost controls. Only these schools would qualify for Federal student loans. You could define a dollar amount per student that is allowed for non-classroom expenses to cover administration costs. Say that was $1,000 per student annually. So for example UB undergrad could spend $21,612,000 on overhead but Cortland could spend $6,400,000. You could set maximums on what schools could charge for room/board. You could set maximums on what books and learning materials could be charged as well. You could also mandate that $0.00 of a students college cost should go to things such as athletics. These schools make billions and billions on their sports. Let them cover 100% of the cost.

Now these rules would ONLY apply to schools that want to qualify and use Federal student loans. They would be free to set their own path and charge whatever they wanted. They would just need to have their students find their own ways to finance.


But this idea of just making sh*t free without cost controls is just stupid. The reason why Pocahontas won't do this is too much of her base are people who milk higher education right now for a living.

[WNYresident]

This is due to the overhead bloat of administration costs. 18 of the 50 highest paid state employees in Upstate work for UB. Way too many make over $200,000 per year. Even more make more than $100,000 a year. It's all just bloat.

If we didn't have these salaries we would not have the best and brightest working for us. I have been told by various "government" employees over the years that they could make far more in the private sector than they do working for the town/city/state.

[WNYresident]

But this idea of just making sh*t free without cost controls is just stupid. The reason why Pocahontas won't do this is too much of her base are people who milk higher education right now for a living.

There is a lot of "milking" going on. It's almost like an art form for government employees. If the rules are in the contracts they justify what they do.

I'm still in the middle with food stamps.

I see people who really do need that assistance but then we have grumps point of view that the program should be abolished. Yes it could be the parents fault of the situation they are in but then I look at the view point of the children involved. Do you limit what they eat because of the parents.