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    Who Loves America

    So Alan has some blather up on The Daily public and this little bit made me shake my head:

    You know who loves America? People who leave behind every thing they own and every person they know to come to this country for a new start; for opportunity in a new world created by immigrants from all over the world.

    No. Leaving behind everything that you own and going to a country does not equate to loving the country you relocate to. You can appreciate your new country, and you can be grateful you're no longer at whatever you're fleeing or leaving behind.


    But to love a country, you need to embrace its culture, to assimilate into the community, and appreciate what is being given to you. After all 'love' is a two-way street, and you don't try and change what you love.


    This is not to suggest that refugees or even immigrants in America must love America. Part of the reason I have a love for this country is that everyone is entitled to have and voice their beliefs. It's ok to voice hate. It's ok to say you don't agree with how things are done here.


    But at the same time, it's OK and frankly should be demanded that, if you are here by choice or need and you do voice your hate towards this country that you be told to go back where you came from or to go find somewhere else.


    Love is a two-way road. B*ll**** flows one way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    So Alan has some blather up on The Daily public and this little bit made me shake my head:

    You know who loves America? People who leave behind every thing they own and every person they know to come to this country for a new start; for opportunity in a new world created by immigrants from all over the world.

    No. Leaving behind everything that you own and going to a country does not equate to loving the country you relocate to. You can appreciate your new country, and you can be grateful you're no longer at whatever you're fleeing or leaving behind.


    But to love a country, you need to embrace its culture, to assimilate into the community, and appreciate what is being given to you. After all 'love' is a two-way street, and you don't try and change what you love.


    This is not to suggest that refugees or even immigrants in America must love America. Part of the reason I have a love for this country is that everyone is entitled to have and voice their beliefs. It's ok to voice hate. It's ok to say you don't agree with how things are done here.


    But at the same time, it's OK and frankly should be demanded that, if you are here by choice or need and you do voice your hate towards this country that you be told to go back where you came from or to go find somewhere else.


    Love is a two-way road. B*ll**** flows one way.
    When all of our own !! American Citizens are taken care of, our Veterans, are poorly educated, our disabled, health insurance that is affordable for everyone, our infrastructure is rehabilitated , when OUR poor have enough food to eat, when OUR poor have affordable , clean housing, and we have HONEST POLITICIANS who dont put their own a$$es 1st , before those they took an oath to represent...then we can accept PROPERLY VETTED immigrants and welcome them to our country!..NO it's not RACIST ..but good common sense, to put ourselves FIRST, A long overdue change. the wealthy have been isolated from much of the serious impact this nation has incurred, inner cities, crime, poor, homeless. Politicians like Clinton who legislated NAFTA, opened the gates to what we have economically in this country and the poverty that it brought with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d. View Post
    When all of our own !! American Citizens are taken care of, our Veterans, are poorly educated, our disabled, health insurance that is affordable for everyone, our infrastructure is rehabilitated , when OUR poor have enough food to eat, when OUR poor have affordable , clean housing, and we have HONEST POLITICIANS who dont put their own a$$es 1st , before those they took an oath to represent...then we can accept PROPERLY VETTED immigrants and welcome them to our country!..NO it's not RACIST ..but good common sense, to put ourselves FIRST, A long overdue change. the wealthy have been isolated from much of the serious impact this nation has incurred, inner cities, crime, poor, homeless. Politicians like Clinton who legislated NAFTA, opened the gates to what we have economically in this country and the poverty that it brought with it.
    No. Not so much, no.

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    I read his opinion piece.

    Disappointing.

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    The thing about authoritarian wannabe dictators is that they energize and re-energize the base of their support by casting themselves as victims. Accusing some “other” of being the cause of some great societal misfortune, the demagogue rhetorically shifts the conversation from one about national priorities into something accusatory and sinister.
    The DNC wrote the book on that Alan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    I read his opinion piece. Disappointing.

    It's rather amusing to me how so many book smart people act like an idiot and say stupid things because they don't have the ability to control their emotions. There is very little difference in actions domestically between Trump and Obama/Bush/Clinton. Trump is just as much of a narcissist as the lot of them but at least he is truthful to his crassness.

    The left cries like babies over the guy who said 'grab her by the p*ssy' before he was elected but didn't have a problem with their guy shoving a cigar up the p*ssy of an intern in the oval office. The left cries about how immigrants are being treated under Trump but don't complain about how they were treated under Obama. Mostly because they really don't care about the immigrants. They just care about having something to complain about. The left cries about how Trump hates the LGBT community but wanted to put in office a cow who was against gay rights until she needed to be for them.

    That's some serious mental gymnastics there.

    But the most amazing part in all of this is a Jew from New York hates this President but doesn't seem to have an issue with leadership in the progressive wing of his own party hating him. Maybe he needs to be more Jewish to care? Who knows.

    Alan is just as crass as Trump. It's his true colors and that's fine. I defend his right to say whatever the hell he wants to say. It's his name out there and he clearly doesn't care what people think of him when they don't share his views. But he did run for office and I'd bet my last dollar he would not have acted the same if elected. He would have played the game and not let his true colors show. That's fake. At least Trump isn't fake outside of his tan.

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    That's some serious mental gymnastics there.
    The points you brought up were from the past. We are talking about the "now". Items like Hillary flip flopping, Bill being Bill, or Obama "caging" children don't count. Oh wait... Trump said something 25 years ago it's all over the news. That is what I see. Hypocrites everywhere.

    The concentration camps and the White House’s daily parade of insults and embarrassments are quite difficult for people to wrap their heads around.
    As soon as Alan said "concentration camps" he jumped the shark.

    The sentence above is an official statement of Alan Bedenko of the United States. Think on that for a moment.

    There is no bottom with Alan Bedenko and his followers — it sinks deeper and deeper with each passing day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    But the most amazing part in all of this is a Jew from New York hates this President but doesn't seem to have an issue with leadership in the progressive wing of his own party hating him. Maybe he needs to be more Jewish to care? Who knows.
    Which "Jew" are you talking about?
    This website makes money off of a depraved and idiotic conspiracy theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    So Alan has some blather up on The Daily public and this little bit made me shake my head:

    You know who loves America? People who leave behind every thing they own and every person they know to come to this country for a new start; for opportunity in a new world created by immigrants from all over the world.

    No. Leaving behind everything that you own and going to a country does not equate to loving the country you relocate to. You can appreciate your new country, and you can be grateful you're no longer at whatever you're fleeing or leaving behind.


    But to love a country, you need to embrace its culture, to assimilate into the community, and appreciate what is being given to you. After all 'love' is a two-way street, and you don't try and change what you love.
    No, you don't, and there are a great many dead babushkas and nonnas and babcias and omas who never spoke a word of English, cooked old-world favorites, and loved America.

    This is not to suggest that refugees or even immigrants in America must love America. Part of the reason I have a love for this country is that everyone is entitled to have and voice their beliefs. It's ok to voice hate. It's ok to say you don't agree with how things are done here.

    But at the same time, it's OK and frankly should be demanded that, if you are here by choice or need and you do voice your hate towards this country that you be told to go back where you came from or to go find somewhere else.
    Depends on how you define "hate". I hate Donald Trump and think he's ruining this country. Does that mean I have to leave, now? Why didn't you leave when Obama was President, by that metric?

    I like this, though - that our country is so free and attractive that you'd better like it the way some arbitrary person demands you to, otherwise go back where you came from.
    This website makes money off of a depraved and idiotic conspiracy theory.

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