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    Quote Originally Posted by SabreTooth View Post
    Oh Gorga, you really think you know it all but actually you don’t. Lifetime health insurance is alive and well if one was hired before that article came out. That was written only 6 years ago. There are a lot less employees on the payroll that were hired after 2013 that will not receive lifetime health insurance. Think of all the retirees alive and well that the town is still picking up the cost, including Mary Holtz.
    And that is the BS I speak of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    And that is the BS I speak of.
    They are grandfathered in as are the ones that will only pay 3%, 5% ect.

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    Maybe Cheektowaga should at least look into chapter 9 bankruptcy. It worked for Detroit to get serious CBA changes.....https://www.lowenstein.com/media/309...7DwedCchzbZzF4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electric Eye View Post
    They are grandfathered in as are the ones that will only pay 3%, 5% ect.
    That isn't good negotiations. The town'a budget will continue to climb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    That isn't good negotiations. The town'a budget will continue to climb.
    That’s great negotiations on the part of the union! Too bad stupid town board gives towns money away so easily

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    That isn't good negotiations. The town'a budget will continue to climb.
    Yep. $2.9mil for 2019 and like a snowball down a mountain it continues to grow out of control and now it is so big that it will take down the town if allowed to continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electric Eye View Post
    Maybe Cheektowaga should at least look into chapter 9 bankruptcy. It worked for Detroit to get serious CBA changes.....https://www.lowenstein.com/media/309...7DwedCchzbZzF4
    That would only work if the town was in serious financial straits and unable to pay it’s bills, we’re just not. Thank God A Better Cheektowaga lost last month, we’d be in big trouble if that group of people got in power and started giving their buddies everything they wanted on the financial end. Obviously there have been some small tax increases but it’s better that we have those than be irresponsible with reserve funds, we can’t fix binding arbitration agreements either but it’s pretty clear that the TCEA’s strategy has been a failure and what they’re fighting for doesn’t really represent their members’ interests either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SabreTooth View Post
    Oh Gorga, you really think you know it all but actually you don’t. Lifetime health insurance is alive and well if one was hired before that article came out. That was written only 6 years ago. There are a lot less employees on the payroll that were hired after 2013 that will not receive lifetime health insurance. Think of all the retirees alive and well that the town is still picking up the cost, including Mary Holtz.
    You are so right, Sabre tooth. But at least the new hires, you won't have to pick up the tab.

    Sorry, I misread WNYresident's post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheektavegas View Post
    That would only work if the town was in serious financial straits and unable to pay it’s bills, we’re just not. Thank God A Better Cheektowaga lost last month, we’d be in big trouble if that group of people got in power and started giving their buddies everything they wanted on the financial end. Obviously there have been some small tax increases but it’s better that we have those than be irresponsible with reserve funds, we can’t fix binding arbitration agreements either but it’s pretty clear that the TCEA’s strategy has been a failure and what they’re fighting for doesn’t really represent their members’ interests either.
    The town has been using reserve funds as well as raising taxes. Plus they pay about $2mil per yr in bond interest and get bond new projects EVERY single year. That is a great pathway to chapter 9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Electric Eye View Post
    The town has been using reserve funds as well as raising taxes. Plus they pay about $2mil per yr in bond interest and get bond new projects EVERY single year. That is a great pathway to chapter 9
    And it's better to be pro-active and fix the issues versus kicking the can down the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electric Eye View Post
    The town has been using reserve funds as well as raising taxes. Plus they pay about $2mil per yr in bond interest and get bond new projects EVERY single year. That is a great pathway to chapter 9
    Perhaps you’re looking at this in a negative way instead of a positive. Apparently, the amount of bonding the town is doing is favorable in the eyes of Moody’s rating system if the town continues receiving the Aa2 bond rating.

    https://www.moodys.com/research/Mood...--PR_904731177

    Why wouldn’t the town finance capital projects instead of paying cash for everything? It spreads the burden out to the resident who lives in a house now who benefits from the road or sewer repair and also to the future new owner when the house is sold and the town is still paying off the debt. Why should us current homeowners hold the entire financial burden instead of spreading it out?

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    You should not borrow for things that don't outlast the term of the payments. Having proper priorities is important. Frankly I'm surprised that throughout "government" salaries continually increase based time only. Economic conditions are not taken into account along with other factors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SabreTooth View Post
    Perhaps you’re looking at this in a negative way instead of a positive. Apparently, the amount of bonding the town is doing is favorable in the eyes of Moody’s rating system if the town continues receiving the Aa2 bond rating.

    https://www.moodys.com/research/Mood...--PR_904731177

    Why wouldn’t the town finance capital projects instead of paying cash for everything? It spreads the burden out to the resident who lives in a house now who benefits from the road or sewer repair and also to the future new owner when the house is sold and the town is still paying off the debt. Why should us current homeowners hold the entire financial burden instead of spreading it out?
    My prime example is the $2mil the town bonds EVERY year for milling and resurfacing of town roads, first and for most in this day and age $2mil is no longer a amount high enough to consider bonding in a town the size of Cheektowaga...but the town does this for 15yrs, that resurfacing in NOT going to last 15yrs.

    So we the taxpayers pay $2mil in interest on bonds each and every year so we can bond $2mil for road repair that will not out last the length of the bond.

    IMO we should not bond $2mil, the money is in the reserves, if we really HAVE to bond it, it should only be for 5yrs. (less interest paid) but I think the town employees may be investing in these Municipal bonds and that is the true motivation for all the bonding the town does because it really is NOT in the best interest of the taxpayers to push OUR debt onto the next generation!!!

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    I few things here for you cry babies about the town health care and bennies I guess you picked the wrong career. NFTA and the NYDOT are all hiring. GPS I believe this is the second time it was upgraded and the cost is not needed. does fish fry mark have one in his take home car? does Zack and the captains have it in their take home cars?
    If your talking about pay and OT the number one dept is the PD thats killing the town budget.
    God must love stupid people; He made so many

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheekman View Post
    I few things here for you cry babies about the town health care and bennies I guess you picked the wrong career. NFTA and the NYDOT are all hiring. GPS I believe this is the second time it was upgraded and the cost is not needed. does fish fry mark have one in his take home car? does Zack and the captains have it in their take home cars?
    If your talking about pay and OT the number one dept is the PD thats killing the town budget.

    Dealing with pulling a kid hanging from a ceiling fan, a wife after they got the sh*t beat of our her by a drunk husband, or a OD is a lot different than finning in pot holes or mowing lawns. That's why there is a pay difference dummy.

    As someone who worked summers for a town, the waste of full-time townies is almost comical. It's a running joke on how they milk the clock. That's why you need GPS for them. It's to babysit donutins on the towns dime. Pretty sure you're one of them. You're too stupid to be anything else.

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