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    Is this what the progressives are really about?

    Where No One Locks The Door
    By Doug Patton
    May 4, 2010 Imagine you are a child growing up in a small town. You have always felt safe there. The crimes of big cities seem distant from your serene world, where no one ever locks the door.
    Then one night your next-door neighbors are murdered in their home, which is burned to the ground. Drawings of the suspects are printed in the newspaper. The sheriff says they speak a foreign language. No one in your town looks or sounds like that.
    Your parents gather the family together for a reassuring pep talk. "The men who did this will be brought to justice," your father assures you. "Until they are caught, I will protect you." Then your parents announce that the front and back doors of your home will not only remain unlocked; they will be left standing wide open.
    You are astonished. Murderers are out there -- loose! Why don't we just bolt the doors? Why doesn't the sheriff just stop people who look like them? Your mother says that would be "profiling." You don't understand what she means, but the way she says the word, it must be worse than what the!?? murderers did.
    Miraculously, nothing happens for five nights. On the sixth night, you hear a noise downstairs. You wake your parents and follow your father down to the kitchen, where you discover a suspicious-looking man rummaging through your trash. He is mumbling in a foreign language.
    Your father opens the refrigerator and tells the man to take what he wants and to turn out the lights when he is finished. Amazed, you ask why he doesn't just throw this man out and lock the doors. He tells you that locked doors are not the way of your town. "Besides," he says, "do you want him to hate us?" Angry and confused, you go back to bed and listen to the sounds of the man in your family's kitchen.
    Over the next fourteen nights, six men wander into your house and take what the!??y want. One night, you open your eyes to find one of them standing over your bed. In answer to your screams, your father simply puts his arm around the man and escorts him downstairs to the refrigerator. The next morning, your family discovers their home theater system is missing. Your mother shakes her head, while your father simply shrugs.
    On the second night of the third week, just before you fall asleep, you smell something that sends chills over every inch of your body. Gasoline! This time you don't wake your father. You reach for the phone and call the sheriff, who arrives just before one of the strange looking men in your living room lights a match. The men are arrested and taken to jail.
    The next morning, your father tells you that you were right all along. He announces that he is having a security system installed in your home immediately, which he does. That night, you hear someone trying to open the back door. When they are unsuccessful, they start yelling and pounding on the house.
    When you open the door to go to school the next day, your back yard is filled with angry people carrying signs expressing how unfair your family is for locking their doors and installing an alarm system. They scream at you, saying that you and your family are bigots, that you hate people who are different, that you are a "racist." You don't know what that means, but you know that life in your town will never be the same again.
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    Doug Patton is a former speechwriter and public policy advisor who now works as a freelance writer. His weekly columns appear in newspapers across the country and on various Internet websites, including Human Events Online and GOPUSA.com, where he is a senior writer and state editor. Readers can e-mail him at dougpatton@cox.net.

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    If the govt allowed that town to have guns, the homeowner coulda killed the murderers.
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    Are conservatives about poorly written stories? This one is unbelievable and stupid. This Patton is a senior writer? No way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blockclubof1 View Post
    Are conservatives about poorly written stories? This one is unbelievable and stupid. This Patton is a senior writer? No way.
    You beat me to it. I was going to say how I could see why he is a former speechwriter.
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    Probably the stupidest thread I have ever seen here.

    Yes, we "progressives" don't lock our doors and, we let people rummage through our houses out of fear that they won't like us.

    At least the loser who wrote this got what he wanted - his name spread throughout the internet. But the only excuse for mikenold spreading it is a combination of ignorance, fear, and stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMD View Post
    If the govt allowed that town to have guns, the homeowner coulda killed the murderers.
    This people in this made-up town weren't allowed to have guns? Really?

    It's amazing what ignorance, fear, and stupidity, will do for the imagination.

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    You people don't even see the parallel of the story! Who in the world would think this story is truly about a real family in a real house? The first word is imagine for Pete's sake.

    The point of the story is what the household mentioned is doing for the security of their home is exactly what the present Obama regime is doing regarding our country and how we are ignoring security. We must pay more attention to those that want us all dead. If not for a clock set to AM instead of PM there might have been hundreds killed last week in NY City. Wake up from your ideological slumber before the next plan succeeds and it is too late for hundreds or even thousands of innocent citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikenold View Post
    You people don't even see the parallel of the story! Who in the world would think this story is truly about a real family in a real house? The first word is imagine for Pete's sake.
    If you're going to roll your eyes, roll them at FMD - as he saw this story as being about gun control.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikenod
    The point of the story is what the household mentioned is doing for the security of their home is exactly what the present Obama regime is doing regarding our country and how we are ignoring security.
    Ignoring security? You mean like the way President Bush ignored the warnings about bin laden in August 2001?

    You can't be serious mike? Do you think we're a bunch of idiots that are just going to believe whatever bull**** you copy and paste here?

    But, as long as the floor is your's, mike, why don't you go ahead and tell us - specifically - how the "Obama regime is ignoring security." And, while you're telling us how, please do it in the context of how President Bush also made sure that bin laden's family was safely flown out of the US on 9/11.

    Go ahead Mike - tell us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by therising View Post
    Ignoring security? You mean like the way President Bush ignored the warnings about bin laden in August 2001?

    You can't be serious mike? Do you think we're a bunch of idiots that are just going to believe whatever bull**** you copy and paste here?

    But, as long as the floor is your's, mike, why don't you go ahead and tell us - specifically - how the "Obama regime is ignoring security." And, while you're telling us how, please do it in the context of how President Bush also made sure that bin laden's family was safely flown out of the US on 9/11.

    Go ahead Mike - tell us.
    1. No terror attacks after 9/11 under Bush. 3 terror attacks (2 successful) in 1 and 1/2 years under Oboma.

    2. Enemy combatants had no rights under Bush. Under the Obama regime we treat them as citizens of the US.

    3. Bush sent enemy combatants to Guantanamo. Obama administration wants to try them in NYC.

    4. Bush went to where the terrorists were to attack them in their lair. Obama wants to pull the troops home.

    I could go on but I think you can see the difference between the two! (roll my eyes at you)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikenold View Post
    1. No terror attacks after 9/11 under Bush. 3 terror attacks (2 successful) in 1 and 1/2 years under Oboma.
    So one really successful attack is outweighed by 2 unsuccessful ones?

    2. Enemy combatants had no rights under Bush. Under the Obama regime we treat them as citizens of the US.
    Enemy combatants having no rights is illegal, and amoral. There's a reason we have the Geneva Conventions.

    3. Bush sent enemy combatants to Guantanamo. Obama administration wants to try them in NYC.
    Do I need to mention where the Shoe Bomber was tried at?

    4. Bush went to where the terrorists were to attack them in their lair. Obama wants to pull the troops home.
    Really? Obama wants to pull troops home, and Bush wanted to fight them in their lair?

    Did You Know: Only country bin Laden hated more than the USA was Iraq? He hated a secular Arabic nation. The only operatives from Al-Qaeda moved into Iraq only AFTER we toppled the government there.

    Not to mention, Bush largely ignored the source: Afghanistan. Whereas Obama is targeting them there in and in Pakistan. You know, where they live and all.

    I could go on but I think you can see the difference between the two! (roll my eyes at you)
    I most certainly can see the difference in the two
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    Quote Originally Posted by NBuffaloResident View Post
    So one really successful attack is outweighed by 2 unsuccessful ones?



    Enemy combatants having no rights is illegal, and amoral. There's a reason we have the Geneva Conventions.



    Do I need to mention where the Shoe Bomber was tried at?



    Really? Obama wants to pull troops home, and Bush wanted to fight them in their lair?

    Did You Know: Only country bin Laden hated more than the USA was Iraq? He hated a secular Arabic nation. The only operatives from Al-Qaeda moved into Iraq only AFTER we toppled the government there.

    Not to mention, Bush largely ignored the source: Afghanistan. Whereas Obama is targeting them there in and in Pakistan. You know, where they live and all.



    I most certainly can see the difference in the two
    Yeah. Yeah, Yeah as if we haven't been over this stuff a zillion times here. Let's cut through the nonsense.

    You like the way Obama does things. You want those that come here to kill the innocent to have the same rights as law abiding citizens. You would rather fight terror in Pakistan (where you and Obama believe is the only place they live in the world???) than any other place that they reside.

    There truly is a great difference between you and me in this thinking!
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    Before I tear you a new one, let me say this: I have never blamed the Bush administration for the 9/11 attacks. I also have to give them credit because, somehow, or other, we avoided another attack(s) afterward.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikenold View Post
    1. No terror attacks after 9/11 under Bush. 3 terror attacks (2 successful) in 1 and 1/2 years under Oboma.
    Uh, yeah but 3,000 innocent people died under his watch. So, to brag about having no terror attacks except for the one in which 3,000 people died, would be like me bragging about not killing anyone since I went on that killing spree a few years ago.

    2. Enemy combatants had no rights under Bush. Under the Obama regime we treat them as citizens of the US.
    Like I said up top, Bush was clearly doing something right. However, I'd like to see an example of how enemy combatants are treated like citizens under the Obama administration. Be specific.

    3. Bush sent enemy combatants to Guantanamo. Obama administration wants to try them in NYC.
    You really believe that everyone in Guantanamo is really an enemy combatant?
    There has to be a point where, we, as a society, say "we've been holding a lot of you ****ers for a hell of a long time now, without due process - it's time we rectify that."

    4. Bush went to where the terrorists were to attack them in their lair. Obama wants to pull the troops home.
    How long do you think we should stay there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikenold View Post

    There truly is a great difference between you and me in this thinking!
    Yeah, the difference is that you use infantile stories about Liberals allowing their houses to be broken into out of fear for angering the thieves to try to make your point.

    Your arguments are weak , Mike -- really, really weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikenold View Post
    1. No terror attacks after 9/11 under Bush. 3 terror attacks (2 successful) in 1 and 1/2 years under Oboma.
    What about the Anthrax attacks on the offices the United States Congress and New York State Government offices?

    What about the Shoe Bomber, Richard Reid?

    What about the pipebomb assaults in the Midwest?

    What about the Egyptian gunman who opened fire at an El Al ticket counter in Los Angeles International Airport?

    What about the Beltway Sniper Attacks?

    What about the Jewish Defense League plot to blow up the King Fahd Mosque in Culver City, California?

    What about Joel Henry Hinrichs III detonating a bomb near the packed football stadium at the University of Oklahoma?

    What about Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, an Iranian-born graduate of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, driving an SUV onto a campus, injuring nine?

    What about the alleged bomb plot targeting multiple airplanes bound for the United States flying through Heathrow Airport?

    What about Derrick Shareef’s violent attack plot on an Illinois shopping mall planned for December 22nd?

    What about the teenage gunman who killed five and wounded four more in a popular shopping center before being shot dead by police in the Trolley Square shooting in Salt Lake City, Utah.?

    What about the bomb detonation outside a military recruiting station in Times Square?

    What about the pipe bomb attack on a Federal Express distribution facility in San Diego?

    What about the Knoxville, TN Unitarian Universalist church shooting?

    What about the bombing of the West Coast branch of Wells Fargo in Woodburn, OR?

    What about the Virginia Tech shootings?

    What about the Northern Illinois University, where a gunman killed 5 people and wounded 18?

    What about the dozen or so high school shootings?



    Or, don't those count in your world?
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