Reply With QuoteThey missed our recycling one day (some houses on my side of the street). I left my tote out at the road and it was picked up the next day
We appear to have had no issues whatsoever on our street. So far, all seems to be running pretty smoothly, knock-on-wood.Originally Posted by yaksplat
To your bracketed quote, YES, it is a white truck, but I have not caught the name.
LIDA Member Rinow to Member Ruda: You were a sitting Trustee on the Board. Did you help support Mr. Sweeney getting a seat on the CDC Board?"
They missed our recycling one day (some houses on my side of the street). I left my tote out at the road and it was picked up the next day
Georgia L Schlager
It is disappointing to hear the frustration stated by residents when calling the town and then being told to call Waste Management. Supervisor Coleman clearly stated early on after the contract was signed to call her office with complaints.
The trash / recycling / bulk pickup guidelines, though late in coming, were established months ago and those guidelines were published in Waste Management brochures (mailers) and posted on the town website.
With rare exception our neighborhood followed those guidelines and in turn Waste Management employees were not picking up guideline violations. Violations have continued in our neighborhood by the same individuals and have increased and Waste Management employees are taking overfilled trash and recycle carts – with lids wide open.
Perhaps the town is getting equally frustrated with Waste Management not living up to their end of the contract in meeting guideline expectations. We were promised a smooth and consistent operation; an operation where trash and/or recyclables with open cart lids would not be picked up, and where only three bulk items per month would be picked up.
Are violators being cited and fined for repeated offenses?
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After notifying the town that this section of code is no longer applicable (addressed at a town board meeting), this section is still in the code:
§ 25-13 Duties of owners and occupants.
A.
Every owner and/or occupant of residential, commercial and/or institutional property within the Refuse District shall keep all MSW in suitable container inside a building located on said property or in a suitable, completely enclosed structure outside a building, which has been constructed for that purpose and which complies with the building codes of the Town.
Clarification please.
And the village where I see the violations hasn't updated their code.
This is part of their code -
And this-All cans and containers shall be equipped with handles and a top or lid which shall be applied tightly on the container to secure the contents.
[Amended 11-13-2006 by L.L. No. 5-2006]
Yet, you see the same violators every weekAny violation by a person, firm or corporation of any provision of this article shall be deemed a violation and shall be subject to the following penalties:
A.
First offense: written warning.
B.
Second offense within twelve-month period: a fine of $50 to $100.
C.
Third offense within twelve-month period: a fine of $100 to $150.
D.
Fourth offense within twelve-month period: a fine of $150 to $300.
E.
Any additional offense within twelve-month period: a fine of $300 to $500.
Georgia L Schlager
One of the posters did post a phone number for a Waste management contact in Lancaster.
Sean - 716-913-9107
Georgia L Schlager
It looks like the Village of Depew are having similar issues with their refuse contractor Modern Disposal
From the Lancaster Sun ( delivered 2 days late)
Georgia L Schlager
It has been at least 5 months since the new refuse contract has been in place, a few months since the refuse code has been updated, and two months since residents were able to enter into a town contract to purchase a second cart. The town was adamant that contract policy guidelines would be enforced by the town and Waste Management. It is time for the code to be enforced.
From all complaints being listed, it appears the majority of the complaints are being lodged in the Village of Lancaster and that Waste Management has been inconsistent in refuse pickups and/or continuing to pick-up overfilled trash and recyclable carts.
Considering it was the town that negotiated this contract, that we pay our garbage fee to the town, where residents were advised early on to contact the town with complaints, no resident should be treated inappropriately when they do contact the town. This program is already in place for at least five months and the town should know first-hand by now who is to blame for the program’s failures. If the complaints indicate the failure rests with Waste Management, it is the town’s obligation to get after Waste Management.
They were using a white truck this morning picking up the regular trash
The printing on the door said, "Premier Truck Sales & Rentals"
Georgia L Schlager
That is weird.
Our pick-up does not usually take place until very late in the afternoon Gorja. I'll keep an eye open for that one.
LIDA Member Rinow to Member Ruda: You were a sitting Trustee on the Board. Did you help support Mr. Sweeney getting a seat on the CDC Board?"
My side of the street gets picked up late in the afternoon also. They were picking up across the street and the side streets when I was walking the dog
Georgia L Schlager
The white truck is from "Premier" truck rental Gorja. They just picked-up the non-recyclables.
LIDA Member Rinow to Member Ruda: You were a sitting Trustee on the Board. Did you help support Mr. Sweeney getting a seat on the CDC Board?"
Yep, I see they are a garbage truck vendor (rental and sales). Maybe when they have breakdowns, they rent.
Georgia L Schlager
If you look at § 25-12, it does state storage differently than in § 25-13.Originally posted by Lee Chowaniec:
§ 25-13 Duties of owners and occupants.
A. Every owner and/or occupant of residential, commercial and/or institutional property within the Refuse District shall keep all MSW in suitable container inside a building located on said property or in a suitable, completely enclosed structure outside a building, which has been constructed for that purpose and which complies with the building codes of the Town.
It was my understanding that this passage was going to be eliminated considering the size of the new carts and resulting storage issues - and where this ‘duty’ was never enforced under the old code. Why is it still in the code?
This obligation pales in comparison to now having to store bulk items for monthly pickup.
Copy submitted to Town Board.
Well, in the case of 1 West Main St, the side of the building is the sidewalk on Central Ave.§ 25-12 - Receptacles and Storage
D. All garbage and recycling carts shall be maintained in good condition. All garbage and recycling_carts shall be kept as sanitary as possible in view of the use to which they are put and shall be thoroughly cleaned by the owner or occupant of the premises after garbage or recyclable materials are removed by the collector. Except when placed at the curbline for collection, all carts shall be stored on the property producing the solid waste on either the side or in back of the dwelling or inside the garage.
Georgia L Schlager
25-12 was added to the code 5-20-19.
25-13-A was not amended, is part of the old code and is one of 4 paragraphs out of 13 that read the same as before. It is no longer part of the ‘new’ code and should have been removed – as I requested several weeks ago. It is a regulation that is no longer applicable, therefore unenforceable.
With a new refuse contract in place the town amended the garbage code to reflect what the town expects from its residents and service provider (Waste Management), what the residents expect from the town and service provider and what the service provider should expect from the town and its residents.
In reading the posts on this thread it is obvious that all parties are falling short in meeting their expectations.
Residents are overfilling their carts, separating carts to allow for pickup, leaving more than three items for bulk pickup, By agreement with the town,Waste Management should not pick up their trash, the violator should be cited and fined, But some Waste Management drivers are taking trash materials that violate the agreement with the town and send a wrong message to those in compliance as sell as the violators.
Supervisor Cole adamantly declared that code violators would be appropriately dealt with. Some even post that they overfill their carts regularly and they get emptied every time. Wasn’t the main reason for providing carts with attached lids to keep the rats and other pests out? How long before the residents who do comply with the code stop giving a **** and follow suit?
Why are residents who complain about not having their carts emptied told by the town when they call to complain that they should call Waste Management? Shouldn’t the town investigate to ensure the cart in question was not emptied because of an infraction?
Supervisor Coleman said there may be bumps in the road at first. It has been 5 months since this program has been in place – and at least three months since the policy guidelines have been published and distributed to all resident homes.
The following was posted in this week’s Lancaster Bee Heard:
As a resident of Lancaster, I’m very disappointed with the garbage contract. Why can Alden put out 10 items in its bulk trash while Lancaster is limited to three? It makes no sense. Why wasn’t a list of dates sent out letting us know when bulk trash would be picked up? You put it out and it isn’t picked up. It’s useless.
The new trash contract is very restrictive when it comes to bulk pickup items. Many of us have posted objections to the limit of items picked up and the way bulk items must be stored for the once-per month pickup day.
According to Supervisor Coleman the contract agreement was negotiated with cost to the taxpayer in mind and in the name of fairness where residents / businesses would pay according to the amount of garbage generated.
It is what it is. Many residents are taking the advice of Supervisor Coleman and others in approaching neighbors to accept trash or bulk items when they have the capacity / ability to do so - you have 6 items, I have none, place 3 in my driveway.
As to letting residents know when bulk items will be picked up in their neighborhood, mailers were sent out by Waste Management with scheduled pickup dates for trash, recyclables and bulk. And, the town has the schedule posted on it’s website.
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