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    Local retail is in death throes because of online shopping. My guess is interior based retail, such as Walden Galleria, Eastern Hills and Blvd Mall, are also on their way out. As the costs continue to rise (i.e. extra police, etc.) we'll see an end to this...

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    From what I skimmed on facebook the mall pays about 3,055,000 in property taxes.

    Bringing you the brands you love like Urban Outfitters, lululemon athletica, Hugo BOSS, H&M, ZARA, Michael Kors, Eddie Bauer, Oakley and Anthropologie, Walden Galleria has over 200 retailers ready to mix up your clothing collection & offer you the trendiest, quality retail. Apparel isn’t our only specialty: we also offer Pottery Barn & Pottery Barn Kids, William-Sonoma, Apple Computer, Microsoft Store, and more to have you, your home, and your accessories best dressed. Even your smile gets refreshed when you visit our entertainment options. Fun for all, spanning from Billy Beez and Build-A-Bear, to RPM Raceway, 5 Wits Adventure Entertainment or Dave & Buster’s, we even have a Regal Stadium 16 with RPX Theaters.
    Let's say there are 200 retailers. We don't know how many more than 200 they have.

    $3,055,000 (property taxes) / 200 (retailers) ~ $15,275 on average per retailer ~ $1,272 per month. Remember the rents are based space used. I am just playing with averages.

    CPD can easy cost us $135,000 a pop or more. I just went to see throughny.net and they only show base salary. To properly budget you need to factor in all cost. IE: health care cost and benefits.

    I wonder how many officers focus on mall issues throughout the year. 10? 15? 1? Let's say 10 officers are used for mall issues. You just wiped away $1,350,000 from that $3,000,000 the town collects in property taxes. If the mall wasn't there the issues wouldn't be there. Know what I mean?

    I wonder if the CPD tracks this type of stuff... or if the town board tells them what should be tracked or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
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    cheif shrimp has no clue about race problems in cheek. He wont confront it like the town park isssues never will he blame blacks for the problems there. Or the mall. right in his town cheektowaga central is the next east high school. they run from the problems. goof
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    One issue the mall can address is more security with working dogs. go with private people that have working K9s. not cops. bomb dogs, firearms and ammo dogs, drug dogs, etc.
    more of a show. cops cost too much for security and not enough of them around. you have people that have certified dogs in all these areas. I know a guy that trains these dogs right in this area.
    number 2 black people do not like big working dogs this will cool the jets of these little thugs.

    How about his goofball crying yesterday over race issues at the mall. No one wants to address the issue of what is going on at the mall. Yes, people black youths mostly females. look at the videos. talk to people that work at the mall they will tell you what is going on.


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    “The problem is that there's a double standard - if African-American teenagers get into a fight, to some of these individuals, they're ‘animals’; if white teenagers get into a fight at a Bills game… they're just boys being boys," said Poloncarz.
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    So many threads on SPEAKUP WNY could be classified as "Dark Web" pages lately, especially in the past few months. Heck, I'm surprised that the Southern Poverty Law Center https://www.splcenter.org/?gclid=EAI...SAAEgJGoPD_BwE hasn't classified some of these threads in the hate monger category. You can see it here for sure. Obviously racist.

    "number 2 black people do not like big working dogs this will cool the jets of these little thugs." - Sounds like something a Fascist would shout in Benito Mussolini's Italy, in the early 1900s. Definitely something you would hear in Nazi Germany! I think lowlife cheekman just doesn't like being called out by Mark Poloncarz. Mark is accurate and correct with his assessment.

    Are you really that miserable in life, or the way your life turned out, that this is the only way to make yourself feel good ?????

    Gee, WNYresident, are you so desperate for readership that you would lose your soul in exchange for clicks ?????

    Maybe you all could check out someone with a conscience, Alan Bedenko on Twitter, who can educate you all in basic terms: https://twitter.com/buffalopundit?re...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    Fights at Lancaster Speedway, St. Patrick's Parades, Buffalo Bills games.

    By the way, excellent avatar for cheekman, the photo sure fits your brainpower. Maybe grump could find a photo of a microbead for his headshot. It really seems like a demasculinization of some people on this site, cheekman and grump the leaders, probably never 'made it' in life, angry white men, and the world is passing them by. But that is no excuse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Breezy View Post
    ....

    Gee, WNYresident, are you so desperate for readership that you would lose your soul in exchange for clicks ?????
    Or maybe its Res is just trying to give the 1st Amendment a shot.

    You know, sort of like he is with that Antifa-snowflake sounding reply you just made. Its to the point where I cannot take anyone who throws around terms like "Fascist" and "Nazi" seriously anymore. But hey! You have a right to speak your mind. So does Grump and Cheekman. If anyone doesn't like what someone else writes... you don't have to read their posts, simple fix. If you want to debate them, then debate them.

    But its not Res's fault about what anyone posts. He provided you with a forum to speak your mind on... with very limited moderation for the most part. Don't expect him to limit anyone else's freedom of speech unless you want yours limited as well. (If he did that, I'm sure the terms Fascist and Nazi would start flying around again like spitballs in a unsupervised class of second-graders.)

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    So many threads on SPEAKUP WNY could be classified as "Dark Web" pages lately, especially in the past few months. Heck, I'm surprised that the Southern Poverty Law Center https://www.splcenter.org/?gclid=EAI...SAAEgJGoPD_BwE hasn't classified some of these threads in the hate monger category. You can see it here for sure. Obviously racist.
    You don't even know what "Dark Web" refers to.


    The dark Web is comprised of websites that are visible to the public, but their IP address details are intentionally hidden. These websites can be visited by anyone on Internet, but it is not easy to find the server details on which the corresponding site is running, and it is difficult to track the one hosting the site.
    Most dark websites are not directly accessible via a normal search made through a search engine; they effectively hide themselves. They are accessible only if the addresses of those sites are known to the user. Some methods which hide websites from normal searches are:
    https://www.techopedia.com/definition/31562/dark-web

    The Dark Web is a collection of thousands of websites that use anonymity tools like Tor and I2P to hide their IP address. While it's most famously been used for black market drug sales and even child pornography, the Dark Web also enables anonymous whistleblowing and protects users from surveillance and censorship.
    https://www.wired.com/2014/11/hacker...hats-dark-web/


    "number 2 black people do not like big working dogs this will cool the jets of these little thugs." - Sounds like something a Fascist would shout in Benito Mussolini's Italy, in the early 1900s. Definitely something you would hear in Nazi Germany! I think lowlife cheekman just doesn't like being called out by Mark Poloncarz. Mark is accurate and correct with his assessment.
    I didn't write that and "speakup" a message board script didn't write that either. Cheekman did. Point your anger at him.


    Are you really that miserable in life, or the way your life turned out, that this is the only way to make yourself feel good ?????
    There we go. Let's make it personal. Really?

    Only issue I'm not happy with in my life is my left knee. Sounds like a ratchet when I kneel down and get back up. Otherwise I'm happy. How does what cheekman said have anything to do with my life? Far as I know I never met him in person. I met quite a few of posters over the years but I don't think I have had the pleasure of meeting him.

    Gee, WNYresident, are you so desperate for readership that you would lose your soul in exchange for clicks ?????
    I'm not desperate for readership. I care but in the end I don't. It's just a message board.

    Stop in one day. I'll show you where clicks matter and it's not on speakup. I'll show you one site that has 5 pages that generates "passively" $350 to $450 a month. The page literally hasn't been touched since it went live. Now I'm experimenting with Amazon. I'll even show you where the clicks matter with amazon and it's not speakup.


    Maybe you all could check out someone with a conscience, Alan Bedenko on Twitter, who can educate you all in basic terms: Alan's Twitter
    I like Alan but he's an ass at times. There is a video that Ben Shapiro has on YouTube. I'll try to find it. The person he's debating reminds me of Alan.

    I know he means well but in the end we have different opinions. If Alan ever needed a favor or was stuck on the side the road I'd stop and help even though we disagree on various topics. I think we both agree about the 1st Amendment. If someone wants to post their opinion on why things happen shouldn't they be allowed to?


    Fights at Lancaster Speedway, St. Patrick's Parades, Buffalo Bills games.
    I agree with you. Go read what I post. I usually attribute this stuff to bad parenting and lack of respect for other people's properties.

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    And Pyramid has few good options.
    Unarmed Security Guards can do little against a mob.
    So does pyramid
    1) hire armed guards.
    2) Do TSA checks on all entering the mall
    3) Say F this and get out of dodge putting another nail in the tax base of WNY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genoobie View Post
    Local retail is in death throes because of online shopping. My guess is interior based retail, such as Walden Galleria, Eastern Hills and Blvd Mall, are also on their way out. As the costs continue to rise (i.e. extra police, etc.) we'll see an end to this...
    I like to patronize brick and mortar as it provides a large portion of a communities tax base.
    And I was a brick and mortar guy for 30+ years before I fled NY.
    But I did about 90% of my Christmas shopping online this year.
    Just to avoid the mobs in "Gun free zones"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breezy View Post
    So many threads on SPEAKUP WNY could be classified as "Dark Web" pages lately, especially in the past few months. Heck, I'm surprised that the Southern Poverty Law Center https://www.splcenter.org/?gclid=EAI...SAAEgJGoPD_BwE hasn't classified some of these threads in the hate monger category. You can see it here for sure. Obviously racist.

    "number 2 black people do not like big working dogs this will cool the jets of these little thugs." - Sounds like something a Fascist would shout in Benito Mussolini's Italy, in the early 1900s. Definitely something you would hear in Nazi Germany! I think lowlife cheekman just doesn't like being called out by Mark Poloncarz. Mark is accurate and correct with his assessment.

    Are you really that miserable in life, or the way your life turned out, that this is the only way to make yourself feel good ?????

    Gee, WNYresident, are you so desperate for readership that you would lose your soul in exchange for clicks ?????

    Maybe you all could check out someone with a conscience, Alan Bedenko on Twitter, who can educate you all in basic terms: https://twitter.com/buffalopundit?re...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    Fights at Lancaster Speedway, St. Patrick's Parades, Buffalo Bills games.

    By the way, excellent avatar for cheekman, the photo sure fits your brainpower. Maybe grump could find a photo of a microbead for his headshot. It really seems like a demasculinization of some people on this site, cheekman and grump the leaders, probably never 'made it' in life, angry white men, and the world is passing them by. But that is no excuse.
    the avatar has nothing to do with black people it about the the guy running the highway dept. i am a racist funny
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    breezy what do you think about racism. two biggest racist in this area was frank masi that ran the naacp and judge curtain for over 4o years. no one could say nothing.

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    your funny breezy two biggest nacist in the area were frank maise that ran naacp and judge curtain
    check the history books.
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    Sorry Poloncarz, if a mob of white kids organized mass fights at the Galleria I'd be bad mouthing them too. Nice try at the race card though
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    This Mark made his comment more for face time than anything else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    This Mark made his comment more for face time than anything else?
    Just another simple politician trying to make a name for himself again...to gain support from a specific group of voters...I wonder when he will invite all of the over to his home for a backyard get together?

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    This Mark made his comment more for face time than anything else?
    I meant think. Not This.... Arg...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    Think Mark made his comment more for face time than anything else?
    Probably. Most politicians seem to enjoy making spotlight catching comments that don't actually do anything
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