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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    She did.

    She won a primary and is likely to be elected in November.
    And, in point of fact, she's given quite a few interviews to many news outlets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckg927 View Post
    Yeah, well....not to THAT idiot. (And yes, I called Ben an idiot. Deal with it.)

    Further, if she was running for President, THEN I'd certainly get it. But she's running for a House seat.
    "Deal with it" Like how Hillary and others dealt with losing the election? A house seat is just as important as any other seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    "Deal with it" Like how Hillary and others dealt with losing the election? A house seat is just as important as any other seat.
    Except unless you're in power long enough(at least in Congress), you can't really do much.

    The "deal with it" blast was referring to Ben Shapiro, NOT to Hillary. But thank you for bringing her into the conversation when in point of fact she had damned little to do with it.

    Seriously...once she passes away, who are you going to glom onto next for your eternal hate? Obama? Bernie? Some other Dem I haven't named yet?

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    "erternal hate" ? That is all you have?

    Hate is a strong word.

    I don't hate anyone. I certainly don't want socialism in the USA. And don't fire back "what do you think the post office is...."

    I'm ok with free college if we set limits to what a professor can make. I could picture professors making 200k 300k 400k but hey it's only tax money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    Wow. His podcast. I mean, absolutely then she should by all means go on some guy's podcast. Clearly, every invitation to "debate" a right-wing troll on his podcast should be agreed-to.
    LOL. His Podcast is the #20 podcast on iTunes and the #1 right-leaning podcast out there. If Ocasio-Cortez were anything more than a socialist pony for the progressive left waterboys to cheer for you would think she would have the courage to have a conversation with someone outside of her little echo chamber and defend her ideas against someone who doesn't agree with them.

    If Shapiro is a 'right-wing troll' then what are you? Are you just an angry waterboy for the local Democrats? What kind of reach do your podcast efforts and blog posts have? Like I said before, both of you both deal in snark, although Shapiro does it with much more class and success. Maybe envy is your issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    Is that supposed to be insulting to me somehow? Sorry, but if you can point out where I tried to embarrass some local Republican female by offering to commit campaign finance fraud and inviting her to debate me on my podcast, then you'd have a point. I haven't, you can't, and I'll take being the Democratic Party's "waterboy" over being a member of the Trump cult.
    It's an observation. While I agree that Ocasio-Cortez is an embarrassment and has a problem defending her position outside of the friendly confines of a political rally, I don't think to ask her to have a conversation with someone who doesn't agree 100% with her is an attempt to embarrass her. But I don't expect someone like you to understand this.

    I'm not going to be able to find any level of you trying to engage anyone outside of the progressive left as you've been in your little local echo chamber since Bush was at the White House. That's why it's comical for you to call Shapiro a right-wing troll. You're the same as him but just on a small-town hacky scale with a fraction of the success.

    Maybe one day you will learn that there are people who are on the right of you that don't belong to the 'Trump cult' or maybe this is just a defense mechanism you use to deal with how most everyone in the middle and to the right of you finds you unlikeable. You're crass and dismissive with the arrogance to think you're electable. I mean you're a Democrat who could not even carry Cheektowaga for Christ sake.

    It's good you're ok with being the local Democratic Party's waterboy as that's all you will ever amount to in politics and journalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    LOL. His Podcast is the #20 podcast on iTunes and the #1 right-leaning podcast out there. If Ocasio-Cortez were anything more than a socialist pony for the progressive left waterboys to cheer for you would think she would have the courage to have a conversation with someone outside of her little echo chamber and defend her ideas against someone who doesn't agree with them.
    Oh! You didn't say it was a POPULAR podcast. Well, that clearly changes everything! I mean #20, just 10 points away from "Kickass News!"

    If Shapiro is a 'right-wing troll' then what are you? Are you just an angry waterboy for the local Democrats?
    I'm the guy living rent-free in your brain.

    What kind of reach do your podcast efforts and blog posts have? Like I said before, both of you both deal in snark, although Shapiro does it with much more class and success. Maybe envy is your issue?
    Maybe. Maybe not. I do know that I almost single-handedly made sure that everyone knows what a racist pervert Carl Paladino is. That's a pretty good accomplishment. Also, I actually get to use my law degree, which is more than anyone can say for Mr. Shapiro.

    It's an observation. While I agree that Ocasio-Cortez is an embarrassment and has a problem defending her position outside of the friendly confines of a political rally, I don't think to ask her to have a conversation with someone who doesn't agree 100% with her is an attempt to embarrass her. But I don't expect someone like you to understand this.
    She defeated a longstanding incumbent in a hotly contested primary election. That means she defended her position outside of the friendly confines of a political rally, and is much more than "leftNYbecauseofBS" has ever accomplished. BUt I don't expect someone like you to understand this.

    I'm not going to be able to find any level of you trying to engage anyone outside of the progressive left as you've been in your little local echo chamber since Bush was at the White House. That's why it's comical for you to call Shapiro a right-wing troll. You're the same as him but just on a small-town hacky scale with a fraction of the success.
    Maybe, but at least I have the stones to let everyone know who I am, as opposed to bulletin board creeps who hid behind their anonymity while hurling insults at others. It would probably suck if we knew who you are and what a failure you've been.

    Maybe one day you will learn that there are people who are on the right of you that don't belong to the 'Trump cult' or maybe this is just a defense mechanism you use to deal with how most everyone in the middle and to the right of you finds you unlikeable.
    Sorry, what was your name again?

    You're crass and dismissive with the arrogance to think you're electable. I mean you're a Democrat who could not even carry Cheektowaga for Christ sake.
    Atta way to pull out the insult from 11 years ago. What was your name again? I mean, it hardly seems fair for you to engage in one ad hominem after another without me having the ability to counterpunch. What exactly are you afraid of?

    It's good you're ok with being the local Democratic Party's waterboy as that's all you will ever amount to politics and journalism.
    The best part about my life is that I don't need affirmation from anonymous hecklers who cower behind anonymity while simultaneously using it a sword. I guarantee you have accomplished absolutely nothing with your life, and your constant heckling is you wishing someone paid attention to you about something even once.
    This website makes money off of a depraved and idiotic conspiracy theory.

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    She defeated a longstanding incumbent in a hotly contested primary election. That means she defended her position outside of the friendly confines of a political rally, and is much more than "leftNYbecauseofBS" has ever accomplished. BUt I don't expect someone like you to understand this.
    Or he was so sure he was gonna win he didn't do much and it bit him the butt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    Oh! You didn't say it was a POPULAR podcast. Well, that clearly changes everything! I mean #20, just 10 points away from "Kickass News!"
    And a few hundred thousand (at least) more people getting access to her message.

    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    I'm the guy living rent-free in your brain.
    LOL. You're the troll I am toying with on a slow day at the office getting back from vacation.

    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    Maybe. Maybe not. I do know that I almost single-handedly made sure that everyone knows what a racist pervert Carl Paladino is. That's a pretty good accomplishment. Also, I actually get to use my law degree, which is more than anyone can say for Mr. Shapiro.
    That's something for the epitaph. Exposed a local racist who sent racist emails without concern. That's some investigative journalism worthy of a Pulitzer. Getting to and needing to are two different things.

    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    She defeated a longstanding incumbent in a hotly contested primary election. That means she defended her position outside of the friendly confines of a political rally, and is much more than "leftNYbecauseofBS" has ever accomplished. BUt I don't expect someone like you to understand this.
    She won a primary that has a bunch of sheep democrat voters by offering more. It's like bragging about someone beating a moderate Republican in the most right-leaning districts out there by offering more that the right would be interested in. It's not impressive in the slightest as she will win by an even bigger margin in the general.

    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    Maybe, but at least I have the stones to let everyone know who I am, as opposed to bulletin board creeps who hid behind their anonymity while hurling insults at others. It would probably suck if we knew who you are and what a failure you've been.
    Mixing your politics and profession isn't stones. It's stupid.

    The most amusing part about being like you is that you think by putting your name out there while being an a**hole somehow makes you less of one. You're just as much of a creep hurling insults. I don't have any issue in your opinion of me. I do think you need some time to accept what others think of you.

    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    Sorry, what was your name again? Atta way to pull out the insult from 11 years ago. What was your name again? I mean, it hardly seems fair for you to engage in one ad hominem after another without me having the ability to counterpunch. What exactly are you afraid of?
    The results would be the same or even more compelling if the Democrats were stupid enough to run you again.

    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    The best part about my life is that I don't need affirmation from anonymous hecklers who cower behind anonymity while simultaneously using it a sword. I guarantee you have accomplished absolutely nothing with your life, and your constant heckling is you wishing someone paid attention to you about something even once.
    Again, maybe you should get out of the public spotlight. You clearly don't have the demeanor for it.

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    Well seeing ranking was mentioned. I'm ok with #6 in News and Media in Buffalo.

    News and Media in Buffalo

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    The most amusing part about being like you is that you think by putting your name out there while being an a**hole somehow makes you less of one. You're just as much of a creep hurling insults. I don't have any issue in your opinion of me. I do think you need some time to accept what others think of you.
    What's your name, again?

    The results would be the same or even more compelling if the Democrats were stupid enough to run you again.
    What was your name again? I missed all your many accomplishments.

    Again, maybe you should get out of the public spotlight. You clearly don't have the demeanor for it.
    Coward.
    This website makes money off of a depraved and idiotic conspiracy theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalopundit View Post
    What was your name again? I missed all your many accomplishments.
    Do you want the names of everyone who thinks you're an a**hole or just the ones who call you such on a message board? My life is none of your business as I am not a public figure. I don't make money of being a public figure...even a bad one like yourself. So sorry, that's a cheeseburger you don't get to eat. You're an unpopular and unlikeable hack of a journalist and political operative. You're a waterboy for the local Democratic party. That's your PUBLIC persona. If you can't deal with those opinions on your public persona, maybe you should exit the public and go back to being just a small-time lawyer. Then, you're just another average joe schlep like me.

    I do need to add that I find it amusing of your attempt to dismiss factual observations about you either by insisting you're more accomplished than someone that you don't know as a validation that you're somehow a better person. Like I said before, being an a**hole but signing your name to it doesn't make you any less of an a**hole. It just makes you a more wide-known a**hole.

    Chris Collins, Carl Paladino, and Donald Trump have all accomplished more than you. Are they a better person? Or maybe, you can be a sh*tty person on the inside and disliked by many or millions and still find some success and wealth.

    I know I am very comfortable with my income and a pretty big a-hole myself. But unlike you, I have the courage to admit it.

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    Interesting Video. I know Trump has some issues with facts but apparently so does this candidate. I'm surprised democrats on facebook that point items out with Trump are not having a field day with this candidate.


    Ocasio-Cortez claims have fact-checkers working overtime

    New York congressional candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has excited the liberal base with her media blitz touting Medicare-for-all, the elimination of ICE and more.

    But the Democrat's rapid-fire claims about the state of the economy and other issues have fact-checkers scrambling to provide a reality check.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...-overtime.html



    Other claims it summarily dismissed include a May 30 interview statement that ICE is “required to fill 34,000 beds with detainees every single night.” Both the Post and Politifact note that this is an “urban legend” and that ICE was only required to maintain that many beds -- not fill them.

    Just think of the cost just to maintain 34,000 beds. In the long run a wall might be less expensive to dealing with people illegally entering the USA

    Some claims didn’t warrant a check, including one appearance on CNN where she asked, “Why aren’t we incorporating the cost of all the funeral expenses of those who died because they can’t afford access to health care?”
    And this is the thinking we are dealing with.


    "Just last year we gave the military a $700 billion dollar budget increase, which they didn’t even ask for,” she said. “They were like, ‘we don’t want another fighter jet. Don’t give us another nuclear bomb.’ They didn’t even ask for it. And we gave it to them."
    This would be an interesting Ben - Cortez debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    "Just last year we gave the military a 700 billion dollar budget increase, which they didn’t even ask for,” she said. “They were like, ‘we don’t want another fighter jet. Don’t give us another nuclear bomb.’ They didn’t even ask for it. And we gave it to them."
    This would be an interesting Ben - Cortez debate.
    As the link says, 700 billion dollars is the budget, not the budget increase. So either she misspoke about something, which is possible, or she is malicious with her math. Since waterboys want to suggest that when Shapiro was malicious in his $10k offer to debate her as an attempt to cause campaign finance fraud, we must view this as the same. Her incorrect presentation of numbers is malicious in intent.

    Beyond that, this just shows how ignorant she is when it comes how the sausage is made. The reason why Congress gave more money for the production of aircraft that the military didn't want is pork spending. While progressives love to complain about how much the military spends and the profits of companies like Lockheed Martin....they are either disingenuous or too stupid to realize that a lot of this spending is requested, if not demanded, by the labor unions. Those extra and unwanted jets were pushed for because it meant more union work.

    So either Ocasio-Cortez and her supporters are dishonest by intent or they are too stupid to see the whole picture. Pretty sure it's a mixture of both.

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    I just don't know if it's because I'm older but some younger candidates just seem stupid. If you listen to some of the "on the spot interviews" during liberal protests I wonder how did they get to that point. I saw a poll that said over 50% of democrats favor socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    I just don't know if it's because I'm older but some younger candidates just seem stupid. If you listen to some of the "on the spot interviews" during liberal protests I wonder how did they get to that point. I saw a poll that said over 50% of democrats favor socialism.
    It has nothing to do with the candidate or politician. They are just as stupid or smart as they were 50 years ago. The difference now is the amount of freehand communication on record that is done. It's impossible for even the brightest people to know mix things up when they talk that much.

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