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    MacMurray made a very strong showing. I was rather impressed with him at first, but as time went on his socialist tendencies came through rather vividly.

    I hope Collins can be an effective advocate for NY-27, and then, shows the good sense to not seek re-election in 2020.

    Let me be the first to say: "Di Pietro For Congress, NY-27, 2020!"

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    Seems quite a few people weren't thrill with him from Grand Island. A few got back to me with some valid reasons why they weren't happy.

    But now that Chris won Nick should look at the situation with our best interest in mind. If Chris is basically a lame duck replace him. We owe Chris nothing at this point except a "Thank you for your service". It just how it is. Totally respect that he ran for office, sat and stuffed envelopes for him and generally supported him. At this point if he can't accomplish anything it's time to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    Seems quite a few people weren't thrill with him from Grand Island. A few got back to me with some valid reasons why they weren't happy.

    But now that Chris won Nick should look at the situation with our best interest in mind. If Chris is basically a lame duck replace him. We owe Chris nothing at this point except a "Thank you for your service". It just how it is. Totally respect that he ran for office, sat and stuffed envelopes for him and generally supported him. At this point if he can't accomplish anything it's time to go.
    Very, very well said Res.

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    MacMurray Concedes, but those comments were classless.

    BTW, Collins is under indictment, awaiting trial; he is NOT a convicted "criminal."

    As per topic of this thread, I would have felt far more comfortable had Collins left the race, stating that NY-27 needed a full time Congressman. That would have paved the way for any one of the outstanding Republican candidates.

    With that said, Mr. Collins is NOT a second class citizen, and is deserving of a full presumption of innocence. For MacMurray to paint Congressman Collins as a "criminal" is outrageous, and I should think that the liberally-biased NYS Bar should be concerned about his seemingly unethical remark.

    Thank God, I did not follow my first instinct and leave my ballot blank. I voted for Collins, and I have no regrets. I ALMOST drank the MacMurray Kool Aid. IMHO, he is ENTIRELY disingenuous.

    I caught on to his, in my opinion, rather "snake-like" sentence parsing while listening to a campaign interview on the Bauerle show on September 27, wherein he made remarks suggesting that business owners are paid too much, and more must be given to employees. Where I come from, that is uncomfortably close to a "Redistribute-The-Wealth" philosophy, aka, socialist/communist ideology.

    Moreover, post-election, he has come across as a spoiled, tantrum-prone kid; a sore loser, conceding on election night, retracting pending an absentee ballot count, and adding that, if there were irregularities, he would ask for a recount in "December." It turns out that irregularities not withstanding, he wanted a recount, the facts be damned.



    This year, two highly undesirable candidates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark blazejewski View Post
    Very, very well said Res.
    What is Chris's email address?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    What is Chris's email address?
    Here ya go Res:

    chriscollins.house.gov

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    As per topic of this thread, I would have felt far more comfortable had Collins left the race, stating that NY-27 needed a full time Congressman. That would have paved the way for any one of the outstanding Republican candidates.
    What is stopping Nick telling Chris to step down and replacing his seat with an outstanding Republican candidate?

    Chris can't be that stupid that he doesn't realize there won't be much he can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark blazejewski View Post
    Here ya go Res:

    chriscollins.house.gov
    I didn't see an email address but did see a contact form. I asks for your zip code to make sure you are in his district.

    The zip code entered indicates that you reside outside the 27th Congressional District of NY. Due to the large volume of US mail, emails and faxes we receive, we are only able to accept messages from residents of the 27th District.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    What is stopping Nick telling Chris to step down and replacing his seat with an outstanding Republican candidate?

    Chris can't be that stupid that he doesn't realize there won't be much he can do.
    At this point Res, it makes not sense. The trial don't start until 2020. Why risk the seat in a special election this year while Collins holds it?

    2020 is the time for Collins to announce his retirement, or is forced to resign. If he don't, primary time.

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    So a replacement would fulfill the entire term?

    I understand he is 1 vote but any rep an be 1 vote.

    Was I given invalid information? I was told he won't be involved in any committees or groups. I don't exactly know how that all works but it sounds like he won't be involved with many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    So a replacement would fulfill the entire term?
    No Res, the replacement would be NY-27th Republicaan candidate in 2020. Collins would still be in office, and merely not seek re-election.

    But, he could get convicted before election day, 2020. A special election is possible, but depending on timing, not likely.


    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    I was told he won't be involved in any committees or groups. I don't exactly know how that all works but it sounds like he won't be involved with many.
    The Speaker of the House Paul Ryan stripped Collins of many of committee assignments last summer. So, your information, I believe, is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    I understand he is 1 vote but any rep an be 1 vote.
    Yes, he can vote on legislation on the floor. I don't know about sponsorship or co-sponsorship.

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    So here he is being irrelevant. Where was he on this measure beginning in about 2012 when the first of the other 14 States including the District of Columbia passed an equivalent to the Green Light Law? Or during the 2 years the Republicans controlled Congress and the White House instead of waiting until they lost control of Congress?

    From: https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/bu...-red-light-act

    In response to New York’s new “Green Light Law,” Republican Congressman Chris Collins is proposing the “Red Light Act.”

    The legislation would withhold federal highway funds from any state that grants driver’s licenses or identification cards to immigrants in the country illegally.

    “Once again, Governor Cuomo has put his socialist agenda ahead of the safety of American citizens,” Collins said. “Governor Cuomo should be enforcing laws that protect Americans instead of supporting those who break our laws. Citizens should feel safe behind the wheel, but now in New York there will be a strong likelihood that illegals could be driving uninsured and unregistered vehicles wreaking havoc on our roads.”

    The Green Light Law, which is facing a federal challenge in Erie County, where Collins lives, would go into effect in December. The congressman’s bill, if enacted, would begin withholding funds in Fiscal Year 2020 and every fiscal year moving forward.

    “Cuomo has threatened the lives of New Yorkers who are legal U.S. citizens with this legislation,” Collins said. “If he wants to help illegal immigrants avoid the law while threatening highway safety, he can pay for it.”

    There are currently 12 other states besides New York who allow otherwise undocumented immigrants to apply for licenses.

    A spokesman for Gov. Cuomo released a statement Tuesday, saying:

    "This is nothing more than political grandstanding from a Trump acolyte who’s been indicted on felony charges and knows this bill has no chance of passing in Congress."
    “We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.” ― Thomas Jefferson

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    I found this interesting in the latest decision in his criminal case. From Page 30 footnote 22 ( https://www.scribd.com/document/4254...ollins-Opinion ):

    Despite the asserted importance of the Speech or Debate Clause by Defendant Collins in his briefmg and during
    oral argument and its importance generally to the House of Representatives, as evidenced by its submission of an
    amicus brief related to the Speech or Debate Clause, "there is no formal guidance with regard to the use of personal
    email for the conduct of official business ... [a ]nd there are no mechanisms in place to even enforce it if there were
    guidance." (5110119 Tr. 4.) Decisions related to the use of personal email to conduct official business are left to
    "the particular member or to the particular committee." (Id. at 4-5.) Defendant Collins provides no guidance to his
    staff and has no requirements for his staff related to the use of personal emails to conduct official business.(Id.at
    5.) Defendant Collins argues that these facts do not "particularly matter[] for purposes of the legal analysis [related
    to his motion]." (Id.) In light of my rulings related to the Speech or Debate Clause contained in this Opinion &
    Order I do not address this assertion. However, I note that there are reasons to have guidance with regard to the use
    of personal email accounts to conduct official business separate and apart from the impact such guidance mayor
    may not have on Speech or Debate Clause assertions by a member of Congress, including securing sensitive
    information and personal information of constituents.
    “We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.” ― Thomas Jefferson

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    From: https://buffalonews.com/2020/01/02/c...rict-election/

    Ark, however, cited previous court decisions involving the resignations of former Reps. Michael Grimm of Staten Island and Eric Massa of Corning that may serve as legal precedents, and asked why it took Republicans until December to file the litigation when Collins’ guilty plea to federal insider trading charges forced his resignation on Sept. 30.

    “We gave the governor the benefit of the doubt about calling a special election,” Burns said. “By early December it was clear he was sitting on his hands and leaving the people of this district unrepresented.”
    If Collins would have resigned his seat between August 17, 2019 and August 29, 2019 the election to fill his seat could have been held at the General Election.

    Now, if the Governor calls for one for April 26, 2020 he would have to do so between February 6, 2020 and February 16, 2020, The next return date for this lawsuit is 1/16/2020, I doubt this lawsuit is in a position to obtain what the petitioners are seeking.
    “We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.” ― Thomas Jefferson

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