Chris Collins Should Resign Today!

[Jeff]

No Carl... Nope. I don't want 24/7 anti-carl racist email posts on facebook but doesn't he own property in Orchard Park?

Lets say he won. It would just be a 24/7 troll fest the entire time he was elected.

Carl dug his own grave here.

[WNYresident]

Thanks for bringing up Joan! She's a great candidate and currently running to replace Mike Ranzenhofer, a career politician and Albany seat-moistener who has nothing to show for his almost 30 years as an elected official.

Good person but have you watched her intro video or read her "meet Joan" page?

What does she stand for?


One of the video's on her site states

"I think we need to bring then out of the shadows and ask the tough questions. Where do they stand on policies and legislation that are coming from the White House that you might think lack decency? So, let's find out their position on these things because remember, noting is more important than our local elections. They effect our lives and neighbors lives every single day."

I couldn't agree more with that statement but I notice her web pages doesn't really have anything to show what she supports.


Does she support open border or good border security?

Does she support free college?

Does she support importing high numbers of refugees as Hillary did?

Is she pro 2nd Amendment or anti 2nd Amendment?



I believe this is her business

http://www.shortstreetphotographers.com/

[WNYresident]

Carl dug his own grave here.

Sure did 100%. Whether you believe it or not he means well and makes some very valid points when it comes to how the area is ran.

[ckg927]

Good person but have you watched her intro video or read her "meet Joan" page?

What does she stand for?


One of the video's on her site states

"I think we need to bring then out of the shadows and ask the tough questions. Where do they stand on policies and legislation that are coming from the White House that you might think lack decency? So, let's find out their position on these things because remember, noting is more important than our local elections. They effect our lives and neighbors lives every single day."

I couldn't agree more with that statement but I notice her web pages doesn't really have anything to show what she supports.


Does she support open border or good border security?

Does she support free college?

Does she support importing high numbers of refugees as Hillary did?

Is she pro 2nd Amendment or anti 2nd Amendment?



I believe this is her business

http://www.shortstreetphotographers.com/

To the questions you ask: Save for probably the first two questions, do ANY of them have a thing to do with the NYS Assembly or is that just more dog-whistling?

And remember what I said earlier when it came to Hillary. Thank you for proving my point to a T.

[WNYresident]

Legislation and politics start from the bottom. Wouldn't you agree?

[HipKat]

This is also absolutely perfect. This is perhaps the most incredible distillation of "it's ok if you're a Republican" mindset that contorts your usual rhetoric into a pretzel. You don't think Collins should resign because he committed securities fraud and lied to the FBI - you think he should resign because of the political implications. Because the Democrats will (quite rightly) "harp on this to no end".

It's dumb tribalism in its most concentrated form. Because I can tell you that if Brian Higgins was arrested tomorrow on a similar indictment, I'd tell him to resign. When Schneiderman stood accused of abusing ex-girlfriends I said he should resign and good riddance to him. But Collins? Oh, you know the Dems are going to be all over him, so he should resign. Not because it's the right thing to do, or because he broke the law, or because with a felony indictment he might be too distracted to serve. Just because "Dems will harp".

Remember when you guys believed in honesty and integrity in government? When you guys were for reform and good government by qualified or at least decent people? I know the cult of Trump has pretty much rendered all of that moot, but it's pathetic what you people have become. Please, for sure, more conspiracy theories and clumsy whataboutism.

+1

10 Chars

[HipKat]

Funny.

One of the front-runners for the NY-27 is Carl Paladino, who lives in the 26th district. This is a weak argument and it's literally all you have.

The only person who considers him a front runner is Paladino and how that racist POS even gets a shot is beyond me

[mark blazejewski]

Tom Reynolds just reminded everyone on WBEN that Collins still has not ended his campaign, just suspended it. He appears to be concerned that Collins has not taken final action to correctly position the party to fill the vacancy. Therefore, his decision is not a final one, and the Republicans continue to rely on his willingness to drop-out of the race in such a way as to permit his name to be removed from the ballot. Sounds like some trouble, big trouble, may be brewing, IMHO.

I basically said the same thing on August 11, on post #48 when I observed:

Perhaps "Suspending my campaign" and withdrawing from the race is a distinction without a difference, but it strikes me as a parsed comment that does not ring with finality. This is certainly not a resignation.

How on earth do you trust an unprincipled, ego-driven personality like Collins to do the right thing for the 27th and his party?

Good luck with that.

[WNYresident]

How on earth do you trust an unprincipled, ego-driven like Collins to do the right thing?

You just described many current elected officials yet they usually run for more than one term and win.

[mark blazejewski]

You just described many current elected officials yet they usually run for more than one term and win.

No question about the truth of your comment Res.

Call it a hunch, the Reynolds comments seemed deliberately scripted, and ring with warning.

[Member 2358]

Tom Reynolds just reminded everyone on WBEN that Collins still has not ended his campaign, just suspended it. He appears to be concerned that Collins has not taken final action to correctly position the party to fill the vacancy. Therefore, his decision is not a final one, and the Republicans continue to rely on his willingness to drop-out of the race in such a way as to permit his name to be removed from the ballot. Sounds like some trouble, big trouble, may be brewing, IMHO.

I basically said the same thing on August 11, on post #48 when I observed:


How on earth do you trust an unprincipled, ego-driven personality like Collins to do the right thing for the 27th and his party?

Good luck with that.

Unless he's virtually certain that he'll be vindicated.

[mark blazejewski]

The indictment is very compelling, but, Collins is entitled to a presumption of innocence. In any event, he has presented the 27th and his party with a political pukefest, and any possible criminal exoneration, if the "popular perceptions" of the future of the race are correct, will not impact the electoral issues.

However, as I pointed out on post #48, the initial Collins comment is slickly parsed. It says he will not campaign, but does not withdraw, and only gives the impression that even if elected, he will not serve. But, impressions are only in the eye of the beholder.

He appears to be manipulating the voters of the 27th in about he same way as he used the issue of MS at his presser. This is not someone I want to see in Congress,

[WNYresident]

He appears to be manipulating the voters of the 27th in about he same way as he used the issue of MS at his presser. This is not someone I want to see in Congress,

Would you rather lose the seat to the group that supports people like Cuomo, Hillary and so forth?

[mark blazejewski]

Would you rather lose the seat to the group that supports people like Cuomo, Hillary and so forth?

After three years on this forum, you should know me better than that Res. But, simply put, I can not be a hypocrite, and say that a crooked Collins is preferable. How on earth can I trust him? I should note that he was not particularly helpful to Trump on DACA, and in light of his recent apparent hypocrisy visa v MS and other seeming deceptions, I seriously question his "sincere" intentions for his supporters and constituents.

Before I would even consider casting a vote for him in order to keep the seat in conservative hands, I would need an authoritative, unambiguous commitment from him, that if elected, he would resign promptly, therefore putting in motion, the machinery for a special election, so that I can vote for a more virtuous conservative.

[WNYresident]

You know he's not preferred but at this point in time it is what it is. I don't think I'd risk allowing someone from the Democratic party to take over that seat seeing how the agenda seems to be pushing socialism and/or free what ever. Including open borders. Breezy is going to say "STOP SAYING THAT" but the fact is what it is. They are even pushing to abolish ICE and don't want the security fence built.