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    You Worry Me

    The following was written by an American Pilot about America but in my view could speak for me as well.


    This is the most profound, most insightful message to Muslims I've

    seen. I think it should be read on Fox, sent to the President, and forwarded

    to any other form of media to express what so many of us feel toward the

    Muslims!


    The paper stated today that some Muslim doctor is saying we are

    profiling him because he has been checked three times while getting on an

    airplane.


    This is a Letter From An American Airlines Pilot. This well spoken man,

    who is a pilot with American Airlines, says what is in his heart

    beautifully....read, absorb and pass on....it's time to get answers from

    those who claim their terrorist members do not represent them..why are their

    leaders not LOUDLY AND FIERCELY AND CONTINUOUSLY condemning their visible

    murderous brethren.


    "I've been trying to say this since 9-11 but you worry me. I wish

    you didn't. I wish when I walked down the streets of this country that I

    love, that your color and culture still blended with the beautiful human

    landscape we enjoy in this country. But you don't blend in anymore. I notice

    you, and it worries me.


    I notice you because I can't help it anymore. People from your

    homelands, professing to be Muslims, have been attacking and killing my

    fellow citizens and our friends for more than 20 years now. I don't fully

    understand their grievances and hate but I know that nothing can justify the

    inhumanity of their attacks.


    On September 11, nineteen ARAB-MUSLIMS hijacked four jetliners in

    my country. They cut the throats of women in front of children and brutally

    stabbed to death others. They took control of those planes and crashed them

    into buildings killing thousands of proud fathers, loving sons, wise

    grandparents, elegant daughters, best friends, favorite coaches, fearless

    public servants, and children's mothers.


    The Palestinians Celebrated, The Iraqis were overjoyed as was most

    of the Arab world. So I notice you now. I don't want to be worried. I don't

    want to be consumed by the same rage and hate and prejudice that has

    destroyed the soul of these terrorists. But I need your help. As a rational

    American, trying to protect my country and family in an irrational and

    unsafe world, I must know how to tell the difference between you, and the

    Arab/Muslim terrorist.


    How do I differentiate between the true Arab/Muslim-Americans and

    the Arab/Muslims in our communities who are attending our schools, enjoying

    our parks, and living in OUR communities under the protection of OUR

    constitution, while they plot the next attack that will slaughter these

    same good neighbors and children? The events of September 11th changed the

    answer. It is not my responsibility to determine which of you embraces our

    great country, with ALL of its religions, with ALL of its different

    citizens, with all of its faults. It is time for every Arab/Muslim in this

    country to determine it for me.


    I want to know, I demand to know, and I have a right to know

    whether or not you love America . Do you pledge allegiance to its flag? Do

    you proudly display it in front of your house, or on your car? Do you pray

    in your many daily prayers that Allah will bless this nation, that He will

    protect and prosper it? Or do you pray that Allah with destroy it in one of

    your "Jihads"? Are you thankful for the freedom that only this nation

    affords? A freedom that was paid for by the blood of hundreds of thousands

    of patriots who gave their lives for this country? Are you willing to

    preserve this freedom by paying the ultimate sacrifice? Do you love America

    ? If this is your commitment, then I need YOU to start letting ME know about

    it.


    Your Muslim leaders in this nation should be flooding the media at

    this time with hard facts on your faith, and what hard actions you are

    taking as a community and as a religion to protect the United States of

    America Please, no more benign overtures of regret for the death of the

    innocent because I worry about who you regard as innocent. No more benign

    overtures of condemnation for the unprovoked attacks because I worry about

    what is unprovoked to you. I am not interested in any more sympathy. I am

    only interested in action. What will you do for America - our great

    country -- at this time of crisis, at this time of war?


    I want to see Arab-Muslims waving the AMERICAN flag in the

    streets. I want to hear you chanting "Allah Bless America " I want to see

    young Arab/Muslim men enlisting in the military. I want to see a commitment

    of money, time, and emotion to the victims of this butchering and to this

    nation as a whole. The FBI has a list of over 400 people they want to talk

    to regarding the WTC attack. Many of these people live and socialize in

    Muslim communities. You know them. You know where they are. Hand them over

    to us, now! But I have seen little even approaching this sort of action.

    Instead I have seen an already closed and secretive community close even

    tighter. You have disappeared from the streets.


    You have posted armed security guards at your facilities. You

    have threatened lawsuits. You have screamed for protection from reprisals.


    The very few Arab/Muslim representatives that HAVE appeared in

    the media were defensive and equivocating. They seemed more concerned with

    making sure that the United States proves who was responsible before taking

    action. They seemed more concerned with protecting their fellow Muslims from

    violence directed towards them in the United States and abroad than they did

    with supporting our country and denouncing "leaders" like Khadafi, Hussein,

    Farrakhan, and Arafat.


    If the true teachings of Islam proclaim tolerance and peace and

    love for all people then I want chapter and verse from the Koran and

    statements from popular Muslim leaders to back it up. What good is it if the

    teachings in the Koran are good and pure and true when your "leaders" are

    teaching fanatical interpretations, terrorism, and intolerance?


    It matters little how good Islam SHOULD BE if large numbers of the

    world's Muslims interpret the teachings of Mohammed incorrectly and adhere

    to a degenerative form of the religion. A form that has been demonstrated to

    us over and over again. A form whose structure is built upon a foundation of

    violence, death, and suicide. A form whose members are recruited from the

    prisons around the world. A form whose members (some as young as five years

    old) are seen day after day, week in and week out, year after year, marching

    in the streets around the world, burning effigies of our presidents, burning

    the American flag, shooting weapons into the air. A form whose members

    convert from a peaceful religion, only to take up arms against the great

    United States of America, the country of their birth. A form whose rules are

    so twisted, that their traveling members refuse to show their faces at

    airport security checkpoints, in the name of Islam.



    Do you and your fellow Muslims hate us because our women proudly

    show their faces in public rather than cover up like a shameful whore? Do

    you and your fellow Muslims hate us because we drink wine with dinner, or

    celebrate Christmas? Do you and you fellow Muslims hate us because we have

    befriended Israel , the ONLY FRIENDLY CIVILIZED SOCIETY in the

    Muslim/Arab area, that thinks and acts like most Americans.



    And if you and your fellow Muslims hate us, then why in the world

    are you even here? Are you here to take our money? Are you here to undermine

    our peace and stability? Are you here to destroy us? If so, I want you to

    leave. I want you to go back to your desert sandpit where women are treated

    like rats and dogs. I want you to take your religion, your friends, and your

    family back to your Islamic extremists, and STAY THERE! We will NEVER give

    in to your influence, your retarded mentality, your twisted, violent,

    intolerant religion.


    We will NEVER allow the attacks of September 11, or any others for

    that matter, to take away that which is so precious to us: Our rights under

    the greatest constitution in the world. I want to know where every Arab/

    Muslim in this country stands and I think it is my right and the right of

    every true citizen of this country to demand it. A right paid for by the

    blood of thousands of my brothers and sisters who died protecting the very

    constitution that is protecting you and your family. I am pleading with you

    to let me know. I want you here as my brother , my neighbor, my friend, as a

    fellow American. But there can be no gray areas or ambivalence regarding

    your allegiance and it is up to YOU, to show ME, where YOU stand." "Until

    then .. you worry me."

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    This is by far the most ignorant Letter I have ever read.


    Who was it even addressed to? Just all the Muslims in the Whole of the Country?

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    Where is the source of this letter?

    Micheal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micheal Joseph
    Where is the source of this letter?

    Micheal

    What difference would the source make? The letter express my feelings about the subject. Sorry I'm not a politically correct person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lackawanna
    What difference would the source make? The letter express my feelings about the subject. Sorry I'm not a politically correct person.
    1. To give credit to the posting, and originator of the letter,
    2. The letter indicates they want a response,
    3. The there is no mention of the pilot's name (Auther), and
    4. Verifing (if someone wants to) that it was an authentic piece instead of a hoax.

    Just to name a few off the top of my head.

    Micheal

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    "You Worry Me"

    Hear! Hear!

    Many anonymous wittings have gone down in history as pivotal punctuation's of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LHardy
    "You Worry Me"

    Hear! Hear!

    Many anonymous wittings have gone down in history as pivotal punctuation's of life.

    Ya... This won't be one of them. It's of the old school of thought... You know the school of thought that encourages us to profile and to judge everyone with brown skin as a threat to this nation.

    You do realize that there are 20,000 Americans that convert to Islam every year, right?
    -Frontline Report "Muslims"

    You do Realize that you just profiled and passed judgement on 7 Million muslim Americans, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodolefriend
    You do realize that there are 20,000 Americans that convert to Islam every year, right?
    -Frontline Report "Muslims"

    You do Realize that you just profiled and passed judgement on 7 Million muslim Americans, right?
    You do realize I do not care,right?
    You do realize that they profile anyone not Muslim, right?
    You do realize that the goal of Islam is to annihilate anything not Islam, right?
    You do realize there are many religions and laws of the United States of American that are in direct opposition to the tenets of of the Koran, right?

    You do realize that I and all Americans have the right to protest, right?
    You do realize that "political correctness" or what you deem as "new school" is another phrase for, Oppression, Hypocrisy, Bigotry and is unconstitutional as to Freedom of Speech, right?

    Just as you have a right to disagree, you also have the right to be blind and stupid.
    No one here is going to take that away from you.

    I believe you have not read the terms of Islam. Yet these terms have been shouted at the US and the world over the last twenty plus years. Only now they ring even more true, for 9/11 did happen. For you and other weak Americans to forget and to trivialize the nature of that event and events that have come before and after, shows the arrogance of your blindness.
    Even our enemies from within Islam laugh at your preposterous notions. They use you like willing tools and propagandists.

    Here something to study, they already have and it is seared into their hearts.

    SHARIA LAW
    the "laws" of the Koran :

    [5.51] O you who believe!do not take the JEWS and the CHRISTIANS for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

    [Koran 5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,

    2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter,and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

    [8.65] O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand.

    [9.5]So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.


    [9.73]O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.

    [8.12] When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

    [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

    [8.39] And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do.

    [62.6] Say: O you who are JEWS,if you think that you are the favorites of Allah to the exclusion of other people, then INVOKE DEATH If you are truthful.

    [24.32] And marry those among you who are single and those who are fit among your male SLAVES and your female SLAVES; if they are needy, Allah will make them free from want out of His grace; and Allah is Ample-giving, Knowing.

    [4.15] And as for those who are guilty of an indecency from among your women, call to witnesses against them four (witnesses) from among you; then if they bear witness confine them to the houses until DEATH takes them away or Allah opens some way for them.

    [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and BEAT THEM; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

    [24.4] And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses, FLOG THEM, (giving) eighty stripes, and do not admit any evidence from them ever; and these it is that are the transgressors.

    [2.111] And they say: None shall enter the garden (or paradise) except he who is a Jew or a Christian. These are their vain desires. Say: Bring your proof if you are truthful.

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    good post

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    Here! A true test of Muslim tolerance.
    Ask any Muslim to kiss the Bible.
    We have one in the Congress that refuses to place his hand upon the Bible.
    I do not begrudge him that; he should not have too.

    The Pope kissed the Koran to show tolerance for Islam.
    He should not have done that. For no Islamic High Priest would ever kiss the Bible of what they consider Kaffar!

    This Pope has sold the Catholics down the river with his action of kissing the Koran.
    He has bowed to Islam and that he should have never done.

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    You do realize that "political correctness" or what you deem as "new school" is another phrase for, Oppression, Hypocrisy, Bigotry and is unconstitutional as to Freedom of Speech, right?
    I've seen you say that before, and I've meant to ask you to explain it.

    Explain if you like. If not, it doesn't really matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LHardy
    "You Worry Me"
    Hear! Hear!
    Many anonymous wittings have gone down in history as pivotal punctuation's of life.
    It's rare when Hardy and I agree on much, but we're shoulder to shoulder on this one.

    Think you can trust the government?
    Ask an Indian!

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    Remember Japanese internment camps & McCarthy hearings

    Remember Japanese internment camps & McCarthy hearings

    I think that the US is not far from turning against muslims in some form of new combination hot war (actual military) and cold war (containment)

    I think its only a matter of time before political correctness of diversity, multi-culturalism, mulsim tolerance is crushed.

    I think its only a matter of time before a McCarthy comes out and muslims are forced to explain their patriotism to this country as communists were forced to explain their patriotism 50 years ago. (by the way most american communists, marxists and socialists in the US were jewish)

    I think more 911 type attacks could result in a replay of japanese internment camps for muslims...so if I were muslim I would not be trying to emulate the jewish destruction of western civilization via victimization, political correctness, diversity, etc. Unlike jews who are more loyal to Israel and fellow jews.....and so incapable of being patriotic americans...muslims who follow this path of being more loyal to Islam will see replay of history.

    this country will turn against jews and muslims for dragging this country, its economy, its treasury, its sons lives in the military into a middle east conflict.

    of this I have no doubt

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    Timmy, you little crackwhore. You coming to the party. I heard there's going to be some hot Jewish girls there.
    The evil hide even when no one is chasing them.- Proverbs

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    [QUOTE=LHardy]You do realize I do not care,right?


    Uh.. Alright... You white Honky trailer trash, evangelical christian. Maybe I should call the police to raid your house. I know that there are some White Christians that do Crystal Meth, since you're white I can deduce that you also do crystal meth. You like that circular logic? The power of deduction is fancinatiing, isn't it you f*cking idiot?


    You do realize that they profile anyone not Muslim, right?

    Ya... I bet all 7 Million of them are profilers, racists and follow Shira law... Just like how you read the Holy Bible every night, threaten Abortion clinic workers and master minded the Birmingham pub bombing.


    You do realize that the goal of Islam is to annihilate anything not Islam, right?

    Uh, no it ain't champ! You want to give me a lecture on the Koran now? Do you even know any Muslims? You know that 1 in 5 people on the face of the Earth are Muslim, correct? I bet all these Muslims are crazies that are willing to take up Arms against Western Democracy and form a Jihad. If that was the Case you better stop worrying about Communist China and start worrying about Bangladesh! The largest Muslim population in the world and a relatively peaceful place, compared to Detroit.

    You do realize there are many religions and laws of the United States of American that are in direct opposition to the tenets of of the Koran, right?

    Yes... I'm well aware of that, however How many Muslims do you know that are fundamentalists that are protesting in the streets for Shira law? NONE! Hell, I bet you couldn't even count the number of muslims you know on one hand and you're coming on this board and making an ass out of yourself telling us that they are evil and terrible! I bet you're sh*t scared to walk on the same side of the street as the neighborhood lebanese diner.

    You do realize that I and all Americans have the right to protest, right?

    Did I say there was anything wrong with protesting? However If you're as stupid and prehistoric to debate the ethics of profiling then it seems that your protesting is futile and deserves a slow clap.

    You do realize that "political correctness" or what you deem as "new school" is another phrase for, Oppression, Hypocrisy, Bigotry and is unconstitutional as to Freedom of Speech, right?

    What are you even jabbering on about now? Some Bull Sh*t that your son or daughter told you about. Join the PTA and have a discussion with them if you've got an issue with the schools buzz words.

    Just as you have a right to disagree, you also have the right to be blind and stupid.

    You're calling me stupid and blind when you're coming on here and painting all 7 Million muslims americans as terrorists and bad guys? Can you not see how retarded that sounds? How many US muslims do you know that flew jets into Buildings? How many US muslims do you know that went to Afghanistan and Iraq to fight against our own troops! TWO! TWO OUT OF 7 MILLION! And you want to talk to me about stupidity? My dear sir, with all my sincere honesty, look in your bloody mirror and get a good look at stupidity.


    I believe you have not read the terms of Islam.

    I believe you know nothing about Islam at all. Should I take your word on this subject or should I ask a ****ing Imam who practices and reads the Koran on a daily basis? I bet you didn't even know what the hell a Koran was before 9/11 you uneducated stool sample.

    Yet these terms have been shouted at the US and the world over the last twenty plus years.

    Yea... and for good reason. Flip Floppy Foriegn policy. It has nothing to do with Islam my friend. If Mass. and Penn had cruise missiles hit some of it's cities and industries consistently I bet you would be sharing the lords praises that your neighbor states just got the brunt end of the stick from say, Russia. Look at this Nation's foriegn policy in the region over the last 20 years and you might get an understanding of why these people are so PISSED! Islam is merely part of these culture, just like how not a day goes by where you don't here someone utter the name of Jesus Christ.


    Only now they ring even more true, for 9/11 did happen. For you and other weak Americans to forget and to trivialize the nature of that event and events that have come before and after, shows the arrogance of your blindness.

    What the F*ck are you even getting off about over there? Who said I forgot about September 11th? Who said I was weak? I'm sorry I'm not a f*cking sheep and didn't go to the recruiting office the same day the planes hit. I thought I had better things to do with my life then waste it hunting down Sadam in the Arab desert. I bet he was Responsible for Al Qaeda flying planes into the WTC too. What Evidence was there linking him to it again? Oh Right... some sketchy money trails that go no where and a couple of Hospital visits from Zarqarwi.

    However that isn't the Issue. The fact that you have judged an Entire Group of People for severals actions is simply ridiculous. I guess if that was the case we should have hung the whole of the German people after the Second World war for Killing 6 million jews and not doing anything about it. War Crimes we should Cry. We should have bombed Japan till everyone was charred because a couple of Dive Bombers caught our Fleet in Pearl Harbour.
    Those Japs that are Americans should STILL BE in internment camps right?
    Are you Irish Catholic? I should arrest you because a couple of your Comrades blew up a couple of pubs and murdered Northern Ireland Officials.

    I could go on and on, but you aren't worth my time. Your argument is so racist, useless, and ignorant that I am boggled how people like you have even managed to pass a driving test.

    Even our enemies from within Islam laugh at your preposterous notions.


    Ya... I bet... I bet you have taken the time to sit down with them and have a f*cking cup of tea. Please before you type can you think for a second what kind of crap you're writing? You know others read this right?

    They use you like willing tools and propagandists.

    Yes Sir! I'm a Tool and propoganda for the Islamic extreme! You caught me!

    Next thing you're going to telling me is that the Chinese immigrants are actually communist spies trying to outbreed our population in an attempt of world domination or some other utterly brain numbing bull jive.

    Here something to study, they already have and it is seared into their hearts

    What? What am I studying? Oh right! You're lame uneducated, uninformed, and useless opinion.

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