Amherst Fire District Disparity.

[gorja]

A paid department? Salaries, pension contributions, health insurance + + +. Don't you think that would result in even HIGHER taxes?

[jennifer7]

What's even more funny, just on the other side of Tonwanda Creek & over the Cambell Rd Bridge is another Fire Station, Wendelville FD Station 1 is less then 1/4 mile away and you can see it from the North Amherst Fire Station, but then again their not a manned fire station either or Paramedic Level

[grump]

The City of Buffalo spends about $60 million per year on their Fire Department. That's just for the department. There are Fire Department costs in other departments like Human Resources and Law. I would assume that even with the 'townie country clubs' that are Fire Halls, the costs to the taxpayer are less than funding a partial or even full department. It's NYS after all.

I know people like Grump love studies but I think this one might be worth looking at.




Cake and Eat It TOO

Leftie, I have no problem with studies that are carried out by those qualified to do them and who aren’t doing the studies at the request of a group that has a preconceived outcome in mind. Unfortunately, this is rarely the case in government sponsored or government involved studies. In fact, it’s becoming quite rare in academic studies as well.

[leftWNYbecauseofBS]

Leftie, I have no problem with studies that are carried out by those qualified to do them and who aren’t doing the studies at the request of a group that has a preconceived outcome in mind. Unfortunately, this is rarely the case in government sponsored or government involved studies. In fact, it’s becoming quite rare in academic studies as well.

Very good points. Sadly, studies these days are just designed to support the view of who is paying for them.

[jennifer7]

Leftie, I have no problem with studies that are carried out by those qualified to do them and who aren’t doing the studies at the request of a group that has a preconceived outcome in mind. Unfortunately, this is rarely the case in government sponsored or government involved studies. In fact, it’s becoming quite rare in academic studies as well.

Cheektowaga has 9 Ladder Trucks @ 1.5 Million a pierce (14 Million) That's 9 Ladder Trucks for only 70,000 People that's more then Las Vegas that has 6 Ladder trucks for 2.5 Million people Then Cheektowaga has 30 take home Fire Chief SUV's that cost $100,000 a pierce with all the toys that get purchased every year or 2 that another 3 Million thats just for starters

[WNYresident]

There is no way they are spending $100,000 a pop for 30 take home Fire Chief SUVs. You would have 1 "Chief" or "Captain" per hall.


http://www.bellevuefire.org/roster.html

There is 1 "Chief" at least for Bellevue District 9



http://www.tocny.org/Services/Reside...Companies.aspx

If this is correct there are 11 groups.

Worse case there would be 11.

[Dan Roman]

There is no way they are spending $100,000 a pop for 30 take home Fire Chief SUVs. You would have 1 "Chief" or "Captain" per hall.


http://www.bellevuefire.org/roster.html

There is 1 "Chief" at least for Bellevue District 9



http://www.tocny.org/Services/Reside...Companies.aspx

If this is correct there are 11 groups.

Worse case there would be 11.

1 chief and minimum of 2 assistant Chiefs per dept

[jennifer7]

There is no way they are spending $100,000 a pop for 30 take home Fire Chief SUVs. You would have 1 "Chief" or "Captain" per hall.


http://www.bellevuefire.org/roster.html

There is 1 "Chief" at least for Bellevue District 9



http://www.tocny.org/Services/Reside...Companies.aspx

If this is correct there are 11 groups.

Worse case there would be 11.

Really, Here's Cleveland Hill's 4 Brand New 2018 Tahoe's Chief Trucks 9, 9-1, 9-2, 9-3 (take home for personal use, going to work, shopping, personal use, all gas, oil, insurance wear & tear be paying for by the the taxpayers https://www.facebook.com/ClevelandHi...2821766096923/

[leftWNYbecauseofBS]

Then Cheektowaga has 30 take home Fire Chief SUV's that cost $100,000 a pierce with all the toys that get purchased every year or 2 that another 3 Million thats just for starters

You're a moron. There is no way in hell the take-home SUV costs $100k a year.

[jennifer7]

You're a moron. There is no way in hell the take-home SUV costs $100k a year.

Go To any WNY Chevy Dealer Web Site, Price a 2018 Chevy Tahoe loaded 4x4 Tahoe $65,000 to $75,000, now add all the customization
all the led lights, light bars, sirens now add all the decals & graphics, now add the radio's, now add the custom cabinets & seats

Who's the moron's paying the highest property taxes in the Country ? And yet the FD's can't do nothing for you if your having a Heart Attack, Diabetic Shock, Stroke etc..... but everywhere else in the country you have have FD's that have Paramedics that can do EKG's, starts IV's and give Meds to unclog a heart blockage etc....

[WNYresident]

Holy crap

http://www.paddockchevrolet.com/Vehi...kwid=575172179

$71,195

This doesn't include as Jennifer7 states the extras.

Because we have done graphics for some fire halls I see how the "trade-ins" sort of work. Sometimes the dealer would rather sell all new lights and items versus transferring them to a new vehicle. They can then go and pull the accessories to sell separately.

[jennifer7]

Holy crap

http://www.paddockchevrolet.com/Vehi...kwid=575172179

$71,195

This doesn't include as Jennifer7 states the extras.

Because we have done graphics for some fire halls I see how the "trade-ins" sort of work. Sometimes the dealer would rather sell all new lights and items versus transferring them to a new vehicle. They can then go and pull the accessories to sell separately.

You now what auto insurance costs each volly FD on having 4, 5 or 6 of these costs ? how much gas, oil & parts due to wear & tear for personal use is costing taxpayers ? and Erie County has 400+ of them, You won't find this no one else in the country

[jennifer7]

Holy crap

http://www.paddockchevrolet.com/Vehi...kwid=575172179

$71,195

This doesn't include as Jennifer7 states the extras.

Because we have done graphics for some fire halls I see how the "trade-ins" sort of work. Sometimes the dealer would rather sell all new lights and items versus transferring them to a new vehicle. They can then go and pull the accessories to sell separately.

You now what auto insurance costs each volly FD on having 4, 5 or 6 of these costs ? how much gas, oil & parts due to wear & tear for personal use is costing taxpayers ? and Erie County has 400+ of them, You won't find this no one else in the country


Cheektowaga has 30 of them They could pay for 30 paid proffesional Firefighter with Paramedic level salaries for a year

[Dan Roman]

Holy crap

http://www.paddockchevrolet.com/Vehi...kwid=575172179

$71,195

This doesn't include as Jennifer7 states the extras.

Because we have done graphics for some fire halls I see how the "trade-ins" sort of work. Sometimes the dealer would rather sell all new lights and items versus transferring them to a new vehicle. They can then go and pull the accessories to sell separately.

They don’t buy loaded vehicles from local dealers, they’re bought off a state bid at a set price for stock vehicles, more in neighborhood of 40k, then add lights graphics etc

[jennifer7]

They don’t buy loaded vehicles from local dealers, they’re bought off a state bid at a set price for stock vehicles, more in neighborhood of 40k, then add lights graphics etc

Most don't LOL, Go look at the chrome rims & interior etc.. Now Every Vol Fire Co is buying new loaded Chevy Silverado 4x4 pick ups too Does Cheektowaga need 10 FD pick ups too ????? Notice on TV every time theirs a disaster, such as today in Florida or Las Vegas etc... you see lots of FD Ambulance's with the word Paramedic which is the national standard everywhere else and Do you see any FD Tahoe's ????