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I am glad to see that people in Amherst rejected Kryzan's negative smear campaign. When you try and prevent the public from deciding important issues such as the size of its town government, the public will not like it.
I am also pleasantly surprised that Amherst finally came to their senses and voted Ward out.
Now lets move to allow the public to decide the downsizing issue.
Amherst has at least a chance with Ward and SS off the board.
it is a good day all in all.
Actually the Republican Committee's and it's allied soft money comes through again. BW waged a clandestine negative campaign on so many levels, once again hiding behind others. How many of us received the pollster's calls smearing his opponents or the directed smear mailers? But he comes off untarnished. Now he and his cronies have a lot to prove over the next 4 years. I hope the people of Amherst won't settle for Buffalo metro standards now that the Repubs control Amherst and Erie Cty with a veto proof legislature.
That is exactly what happened in the Town of Brant. It was the smear personified by a gadfly in town. Those running after being requested to refused to separate themselves - thus being made guilty be association. The local Democratic Party committee tried using the same argument, yet the treasurer of the Party is a close friend to this (dishonorable) gadfly.
What are you talking about the republican committee is so weak that it didn't want Mohan 4 years ago but he won nonetheless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Add It Up
The dems better wake up and stop taking stupid positions such as not allowing the public to vote on the size of its government.
that issue alone won it for BW and the republicans.
[QUOTE=hate politics;567455]I am glad to see that people in Amherst rejected Kryzan's negative smear campaign. When you try and prevent the public from deciding important issues such as the size of its town government, the public will not like it.
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I saw the negative mailers that specifically went out against Kryzan and Ward. So stop with the smear campaign from Kryzan BS.
Weinstein and his crew were more negative and did more "trash" mail than any other group.
[QUOTE=amhresident;568090]Agree. We received countless mailers, plus phone smears. BW should at least keep his mouth shut about smear campaigning done by Kryzan. Most know he is spewing a blatant lie. It serves only to demonstrate his hypocrisy and his total inability to be a gracious winner...and "leader".Quote:
Originally Posted by hate politics
Kryzan's entire campaign was a smear. People do not like when people run an exclusive, 100 percent negative campaign.
It was about the whole full-time/part-time nonsense, the bank failure, trying to pin BW as a mohan clone, etc.
all smear all the time. I did not see a single negative ad from BW throughout the campaign.
Ha Ha Ha.......so you must be saying Kryzan and Ward sent out "trash" mail in a smear campaign against themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by hate politics
A smear is a smear. BW just spent more to do it.
I am an independent and never got a single negative piece of literature from BW.
examples of this "smear" please.
These were all pertinent issues which were successfully downplayed by the Weinstein clandestine campaign machine. Expect the same type of administration for the next 4 years: if we don't acknowledge the issues, they don't exist. My way or the highway.Quote:
Originally Posted by hate politics
I like to call those accusations mear smear tactics but we can agree to disagree about that.
I would like someone to provide me with examples of BW smearing Kryzan?
Amazing! I am an Independent also and received numerous negative mailings plus phone polls. However, it is unimportant, at this point. BW won. It worked. The man needs to shut up about negative campaigning from Alice Kryzan. Most people know, especially Independents, that he is not above reproach. He is being hypocritical, petty, an ungracious winner..and most of all, is not exhibiting characteristics of a true leader in our community.Quote:
Originally Posted by hate politics
A little good will and humbleness would go a long way.
[QUOTE=Trajan;568100]BW is no leader. He takes no responsibility for anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by amhresident
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Originally Posted by Add It Up
Clandestine is SOP for Weinstein and his campaign manager.
This is exactly how I would describe BW from personal experience with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trajan
Talk about sorry grapes. Look who is exhibiting it now. :rolleyes:
translation - they were no negative BW flyers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trajan
stop the BW bashing, your candidate lost, your tactics lost. go on with your day and life.
A gracious and classy "winner" does not look backward and critique and criticize opponents. Appalling behavior on the part of any "leader". Doesn't bode well for a new era of "no bickering".
You continue to use the same smear tactics that cost your candidate the election.
Additionally, I don't know how my conduct is a reflection of BW as I am not a republican nor care to be but here is some advice: learn from your mistakes (i.e. don't smear and/or don't make stuff up) so that we can have a productive, issue driven debate next election cycle.
According to your calulations...If that is all this election was about, smearingQuote:
Originally Posted by hate politics
worked for BW.
Your delusional interpretation of everything "BW" is amusing...and odd.
However, even you, must admit...
A gracious and classy "winner" does not look backward and critique and criticize opponents.
The lesson I learned was that when you smear, as BW did, hide it in as many layers of soft money as you can. Make yourself untouchable, having others do your dirty work and walk away if you feel that the public is getting too close.Quote:
Originally Posted by hate politics
BTW-Are you posting all the way from England? Or was that BS too.
You are correct. There were no negative BW flyers that were sent.Quote:
Originally Posted by hate politics
However there were negative flyers against Kryzan and Ward that were sent out by the BW controlled Republicans. And please do not deny that BW controls the republicans.
I also agree the race is over and BW won. Congratulations to him. I guess the negative capaign tactics worked...although I don't he needed to go to that level.
I asked for examples about smearing - you provided none yet you continue to smear. Just like when BW stated time and time again, he will work full-time, you still tried to smear him.
your smear tactics lost -- it is a lesson learned but talk about sour grapes, your candidate lost, your negative tactics lost.
Next time all i ask is that the candidates talk about the issues that matter - i.e. taxes, contracts, redevleopment.
BW won because he put forth issues (i.e. downsizing) and Kryzan didn't.
I heard time and time again how many people were turned off by Kryzan by her negative tactics (in fact i wrote about it last week).
Keep on spinning. Who will Dr. Barry hide behind now?Quote:
Originally Posted by hate politics
Hate is in such denial and so delusional that even if the negative mailings and audio of the phone polls were posted, they would all be denied.Quote:
Originally Posted by hate politics
BTW. After all your hysterical rantings about the scratched car, did you ever find out who the real culprit was???You were all over that one. Very odd devotion.
I love the way you try to sidestep the fact that you didn't receive any negative attacks about Kryzan - you are doing a better job than your poor responses to the ward lawsuit issue. but why do you continue to persist this thread?
you will be happy to note that this will be my last post for a while (i am leaving for england for three weeks).
as i have mentioned, the police will probably disclose the name of the person who did in a day or so.
my money is on a union guy/gal that was upset that the budget didn't include a tax increase to pay for their salary and bennies.
Why did you even start this thread? It was a mischaracterization and phony premise from the start. You and BW are the only ones talking about it. Some of us on SUWNY were not about to let this variety of BS go by without commenting.Quote:
Originally Posted by hate politics
Getting back to my original point...What does this nonsense say about being a gracious winner and leader??
Have a fantastic and safe trip.
I was stunned that a great and likeable guy like Tim Howard whined about negative campaigning AFTER he won handily. Howard's campaign was a little negative too.
I was astonished that a smart guy like Barry Weinstein was seemingly near tears over being criticized by Alice Kryzan during the campaign (heck, Kryzan's ONLY campaign position at all was that Barry would only work part time if elected). Even more astonishing was that Barry was near tears of self pity even after the huge win. Weinstein should have danced in the streets that Kryzan ran a non-issue oriented non-campaign.
Both these guys lost great opportunities to shine in their big wins. We deserved better than the selfish "sore winner" whining. Get over it - you won!