The Taylor Law and how it kills taxpayers....
Anyone have a solid grasp of the ramifications of the Taylor Law. The law was enacted in regards to labor relations among agencies and employee, namely unions. I am no expert (my background is urban planning, not labor law) but what I do know is that public unions have this state by the arse.
It is nearly impossible to get anything accomplished when it has to do with unions. You can never take anything away from a union, such as health care, vacation time, etc. without them vrying foul and asking for arbitration, a right they are granted. And arbitration never changes anything.
Here's a good example. Eden offered to take control of Elma Meadows golf course and operate it, not own it, but maintain and operate it. But because of the Taylor Law, they can't because it would be taking work from unionized employees (who are laid off by the way). So instead of a benefit for thousands of county residents by having this open, it can't be because of some technicality.
If we want things to truly change, we need this law changed.
We need fair negotiations on behalf of taxpayers. Anyone else sick of council meetings in some towns being adjourned behind closed doors to discuss negoatiations? Why aren't CUSTOMER, that's what we are, allowed to be privy to how our leaders are negotiating on OUR BEHALF?
We need all decisions made based on the strength of the community, city town, region etc. Whether something is fiscally responsible or feasible. Not whether or not the police force in your town is making the same as the police force in Poughkeepsie.
The govt in this state needs a massive overhaul and this law is one way to get a good start.
Re: The Taylor Law and how it kills taxpayers....
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Originally posted by takethepowerback
Anyone have a solid grasp of the ramifications of the Taylor Law. The law was enacted in regards to labor relations among agencies and employee, namely unions. I am no expert (my background is urban planning, not labor law) but what I do know is that public unions have this state by the arse.
It is nearly impossible to get anything accomplished when it has to do with unions. You can never take anything away from a union, such as health care, vacation time, etc. without them vrying foul and asking for arbitration, a right they are granted. And arbitration never changes anything.
Here's a good example. Eden offered to take control of Elma Meadows golf course and operate it, not own it, but maintain and operate it. But because of the Taylor Law, they can't because it would be taking work from unionized employees (who are laid off by the way). So instead of a benefit for thousands of county residents by having this open, it can't be because of some technicality.
If we want things to truly change, we need this law changed.
We need fair negotiations on behalf of taxpayers. Anyone else sick of council meetings in some towns being adjourned behind closed doors to discuss negoatiations? Why aren't CUSTOMER, that's what we are, allowed to be privy to how our leaders are negotiating on OUR BEHALF?
We need all decisions made based on the strength of the community, city town, region etc. Whether something is fiscally responsible or feasible. Not whether or not the police force in your town is making the same as the police force in Poughkeepsie.
The govt in this state needs a massive overhaul and this law is one way to get a good start.
This Taylor Law has done one thing for this area...it has placed handcuffs on Eire and Niagara County when it comes to the unions.....I for one want to see this Taylor Law changed. If not changed I like to see it go away....in the trash cann....its nothing but trash anyways.
For the last what, 30 years this Taylor Law has served no one but the unions in this area and has sucked us residents dry. Yes, sucked the pennies right out of our pockets and if we don't place presure on albany to get this law changed it will continue to suck us dry....because the unions is never change and will keep aking for those golden platers of give-me's or else contracts.
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Originally posted by Riven37
This Taylor Law has done one thing for this area...it has placed handcuffs on Eire and Niagara County when it comes to the unions.....I for one want to see this Taylor Law changed. If not changed I like to see it go away....in the trash cann....its nothing but trash anyways.
For the last what, 30 years this Taylor Law has served no one but the unions in this area and has sucked us residents dry. Yes, sucked the pennies right out of our pockets and if we don't place presure on albany to get this law changed it will continue to suck us dry....because the unions is never change and will keep aking for those golden platers of give-me's or else contracts.
You still don't get it do you? Or you just refuse to see the truth.
Even if you removed the Taylor law from the mix. (and they never will because it protects taxpayers more thaen hurts them)
it would not reduce your taxes or solve this areas economic woes.
In fact I think you will see because of the current administration's budget mess on the national level the rest of the working class in this country will be joining us shortly.
I have to agree w/criticisms of the Taylor Law
I have to agree w/criticisms of the Taylor Law
There is no counter balance
Thats why I think that the best revisement is that there can be no mandatory arbitration:
-where the budget is in deficit
-where union members are at or above the national or state average.
-the priority should be given to the quality and the cost efficiency of the service being provided.
The Taylor Law just mandates that taxes will always be at the mandatory maximum without regard for other factors
No more quid pro quo on productivity improves, thats just the cost of doing business.
There is a ring of truth that unions are not the entire problem
There is a ring of truth that unions are not the entire problem
Does anyone remember 1999 during the dot com BOOM increasing property values, increasing employment...all leading to rising state revenues.
So what did NYS do with those rising revenues?
Did they pay off the bonds that finance the state deficit? NO
Did they submit a balanced budget? NO
Did they use it to bring poor schools up to standard? NO
Did they use it to update infrastructure: Roads, Bridges, Rail, etc?
Did they lower taxes and fees? NO
Did they use it to trade union negoitations for productivity improvements at hospitals, fire, police, etc? NO
What did they do? THEY RAISED THE HEALTH AND PENSION BENEFITS FOR CURRENT CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES AND RETIRED CIVIL SERVICE RETIREES.
THUS PLACING THE STATE AND EVERY COUNTY AND MUNICIPALITY INTO NEAR BANKRUPTCY WHEN THOSE DOT.COM RELATED REVENUES COLLAPSED!
SO ITS FAIR TO BLAME OUR POLITICIANS AND OUR UNIONS TOGETHER! THERE IS NO SINGLE EVIL TO POINT A FINGER AT!
THATS WHY WE MUST DEMAND TO VOTE ON MUNICIPAL AND COUNTY BUDGETS!