Oh Boy anothe company crying

National Fuel hurt in a drop in oil prices. :disgust: How about all the times they raise their rates and have screwed so many people around here over the years. Oh let's raise the rates on the delivery charges that the gas goes through the same old damn pipe. Another company I have no use for. But the CEO makes millions.
The write downs the value of the gas will continue to fall because of the falling of oil prices well into next year. Their earnings fell by 9percent to 84 million. oh well, suck it up also blaming the warmer than normal winter.

So some of the major cry babies about money now national fuel, the local gas station crooks and big oil, the pegulas not making money on their sports empire and restaurant business and falling worth on his gas drilling company. There is also a lot of smaller business hurting in these times but let's hear about this bs.

Also heard mayor Erkel crying about money last week at a news conference take that dumb mask off when u are talking on camera.

You know Cheekman, perhaps some of these companies should be suing New York State for an unconstitutional taking of their business by New York State. It was the state who forced thousands of businesses and millions of New Yorkers to the edge of desperation without anything like a legitimate finding of need. The determination about what constitutes an essential business has been made in a manner that is clearly arbitrary and capricious. It changes at the whim of the governor with no basis in fact to support it.

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How about all the times they raise their rates and have screwed so many people around here over the years.

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I agree after watching "government service providers" for the last 15+ years.

We finally need to end fossil fuels!

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Originally Posted by coffeeparty1

We finally need to end fossil fuels!

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Well, we already know that wind power and solar power are jokes that appeal only to half wits. What do you have in mind? From your posts I gather you’re a loyal Democratic Totalitarian. Maybe you have in mind “human power”. That was a favorite of Democratic Totalitarians until Abraham Lincoln and the Republicans freed the slaves.

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Just a simple question - how do you heat your house and water ? What type of fuel goes in your car - do you ever use airplanes, buses, trains ?

Its a proven fact wind and solar power cant provide our energy needs ! There has to be backup and supplemental power sources and massive tax funded subsidies to sustain its use. Ask Germany and other nations.

Please explain how you believe this could be corrected without massive tax increases - subsidies for these facilities and what is the provable long term benefits !

Thanks

Sorry - last point ! If solar and wind energy is so good for #America - why has our government been funding coal and nuclear powered facilities in foreign joint venture energy deals ? Under #Obama hundreds of billions of US tax dollars were shipped over seas for these joint venture deals and many coal and nuclear facilities were built by #Rosatom a Russian energy company !

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Originally Posted by grump

You know Cheekman, perhaps some of these companies should be suing New York State for an unconstitutional taking of their business by New York State. It was the state who forced thousands of businesses and millions of New Yorkers to the edge of desperation without anything like a legitimate finding of need. The determination about what constitutes an essential business has been made in a manner that is clearly arbitrary and capricious. It changes at the whim of the governor with no basis in fact to support it.

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grumpy i think the taxpayers should be suing all these companies and the nys public service comish for ripping off people for years and years. For there bs reasons to raise rates.

Cant sue any one with the courts closed.

I am very much disappointed in New Yorkers over all of this. bunch of push overs