City Cops vs Suburb Cops

Ever notice the difference between city cops and suburb cops?

Seems like city cops still lean towards "protection and service" whereas suburb cops are more into tyranical "control and extortion".

Now this cant all be because city cops are too busy fighting real crime.

Does anyone else think that maybe its because most city cops were raised and still live in the city where street smarts, common sense, and liberty is a more important way of life whereas most suburb cops were raised in the suburbs, grew up spoiled control freaks then indoctrinated to shake down the public who are known to have an abundance of money.

Troopers are simply "robots", not much can be done about them.

Do the unions keep these people brainwashed or is it the government?

Almost 3 hours and no comments. Awww...are the people living in fear of authority or what? :rolleyes:

City cops from my experience work really hard, get dirty, love the chase. I think city cops work harder than most others..of course it is all a matter of socioeconomic demographic.

sububuran cops.....pension and benefits.


Troopers... way overpaid.

amherst cops are into traffic tickets and teen party control mode

Buffalo Cops are the best and coolest cops ever! A buffalo cop may actually give you a break on a traffic stop if you're cool about it. A Buffalo cop is more interested in getting guns and drugs off the street rather than punishing the average joe for a simple traffic infraction. That's been my experience anyways.

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Originally Posted by buffy

amherst cops are into traffic tickets and teen party control mode

Buffalo Cops are the best and coolest cops ever! A buffalo cop may actually give you a break on a traffic stop if you're cool about it. A Buffalo cop is more interested in getting guns and drugs off the street rather than punishing the average joe for a simple traffic infraction.

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definately

In the city you can get caught with drugs, hookers, and a midget in the trunk and they'll let you go if you have a PBA sticker. Trust me, I know.

In the suburbs, the cops don't have violent crime to worry about so they go overboard on the little crap.

In Amherst they focus on traffic tickets and teenage parties because there isn't a lot else to do.

You know, I had no idea the midget in the trunk was against the law. Guess I better let him out!!

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Originally Posted by FisherRd

In the city you can get caught with drugs, hookers, and a midget in the trunk and they'll let you go if you have a PBA sticker. Trust me, I know.

In the suburbs, the cops don't have violent crime to worry about so they go overboard on the little crap.

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Yeah, overboard on the little crap is "creating victoms" instead of waiting for a victom to help. BS if you ask me. :mad:

Good post. Does anyone have a clue why suburban cops are allowed to park police cars at home while on duty? Yes, I know they have radio's but wouldn't it be more productive to be on the road? I have noticed a few that seem to spend a LOT of time at home while on duty.

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Originally Posted by ichingtheory

Good post. Does anyone have a clue why suburban cops are allowed to park police cars at home while on duty? Yes, I know they have radio's but wouldn't it be more productive to be on the road? I have noticed a few that seem to spend a LOT of time at home while on duty.

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We'll my roomate used to park at my house when he had to go to the bathroom, after 8 hours in a car you have to go at least a few times. Additionally many stop home for lunch/dinner/ b-fast.

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Originally Posted by ichingtheory

Good post. Does anyone have a clue why suburban cops are allowed to park police cars at home while on duty? Yes, I know they have radio's but wouldn't it be more productive to be on the road? I have noticed a few that seem to spend a LOT of time at home while on duty.

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Theyre probably just stopping for lunch or a quickie or something. No different than if they went to a donut shop.

But I see Buffalo Patrol cars parked in front of houses in williamsville all the time. Overnight, entire weekends.... They must live there, so whats up with that? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Sylvan

Theyre probably just stopping for lunch or a quickie or something. No different than if they went to a donut shop.

But I see Buffalo Patrol cars parked in front of houses in williamsville all the time. Overnight, entire weekends.... They must live there, so whats up with that? :confused:

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Same here. I also notice cop cars home all night. Why wouldn't another cop be using car when the other is off duty? Must mean taxpayers are buying too many cars.

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Originally Posted by Dougles

We'll my roomate used to park at my house when he had to go to the bathroom, after 8 hours in a car you have to go at least a few times. Additionally many stop home for lunch/dinner/ b-fast.

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Yes, I agree you have to stop to eat and use bathroom "but" there are some cops that literally stay home for hours when they are working. I am just wondering if they are allowed to do so as long as they have radio on.

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Originally Posted by Bioguy231

In Amherst they focus on traffic tickets and teenage parties because there isn't a lot else to do.

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Part of the reason there is not a lot to do is because they focus on traffic tickets and teenage parties. A thug is a lot less likely to drive around a subdivision looking for a car to break into when he/she knows the odds are high they are going to get pulled over for a broken tail light.

People should read up on Fixing Broken Windows. NYC, in an effort to cut down on crime, started to enforce subway fairs. They would randomly ask to see proof of fair. Of course, the average Joe or Jane were able to show this. The people who were not able to also had very high odds of having something else on their record. I guess you can fix broken windows but you can not fix stupid.

I have always found that people who have anything bad to say about cops, either in the city or burbs, have usually had an interaction with the police that did not go their way.

From the parent who is oblivious to just how much of a tool their child is, the soccer mom who just does not understand that driving an SUV does not give the right to drive like an a-hole to the guy who gets pulled over and drops the name of a second cousins friend who is on the force in Rochester and does not understand why that was not good enough to get out of a speeding ticket and the lawyer who thinks they can speed in the school zone and should get a "professional courtesy" when they get pulled over as well.

It is pretty easy to spot the a-holes above in any setting.

Yet for "how cool" the city cops are...note where most of the crime is still happening. Perhaps there is a reason that the thugs stay out of those suburbs eh?

Just pay the traffic ticket and move on Sylvan. :)

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Originally Posted by tgace

Just pay the traffic ticket and move on Sylvan. :)

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If Im going to be extorted by a tyrant, Im going to at least be entertained for full ticket value by myself and the tyrants themselves. :D

The last seatbelt ticket I got, knowing it would be worth around 130., I made the cop feel so bad for writing me up he helped me load a trailer that was worth 100. in physical labor. The other 30. will be worth the look on the clerks face when she cant suspend my license.

phooie on them! :p

City cops are pretty fair and i believe really believe in serving and protecting for the most part. In my just turned old enough to drink days I use to go to local bars and walk home alone rather than getting the car with a drunk firend. More than once a cop pulled over and gave me a ride a home. I have friends with similar stories, one friend when we were about 17 was stranded at a rave downtown. My friend was at a pay phone, a cop pulled up and gave her and her friend a ride home.

I have had a few run ins with suburban cops. West Seneca cops are awesome! Hamburg cops are pretty fair. OP cops are annoying. Troopers are easy to get out of tickets if you cry. Lackawanna cops are easy to flirt your way out of a ticket. Amherst cops are annoying, crying doesn't work.

Here is a funny story from my party days. Friends of mine lived in an apt in canadauga(sp), they went to the finger lakes college there, and cops came because of noise complaints. We were drunk and being really loud. There were 3 dime sacks and a fairly large bowl sitting on the coffee table. The cops didn't even notice the bags or the bowl, told us to keep it down and left.

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Originally Posted by DomesticatedFeminist

Troopers are easy to get out of tickets if you cry.

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lol :cool:

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Originally Posted by Sylvan

If Im going to be extorted by a tyrant, Im going to at least be entertained for full ticket value by myself and the tyrants themselves. :D

The last seatbelt ticket I got, knowing it would be worth around 130., I made the cop feel so bad for writing me up he helped me load a trailer that was worth 100. in physical labor. The other 30. will be worth the look on the clerks face when she cant suspend my license.

phooie on them! :p

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Ya...I call BS!

We visit NYC every year and I have to say, in my opinion, NYC cops are the hardest working I have come across.

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Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS

Part of the reason there is not a lot to do is because they focus on traffic tickets and teenage parties. A thug is a lot less likely to drive around a subdivision looking for a car to break into when he/she knows the odds are high they are going to get pulled over for a broken tail light.

People should read up on Fixing Broken Windows. NYC, in an effort to cut down on crime, started to enforce subway fairs. They would randomly ask to see proof of fair. Of course, the average Joe or Jane were able to show this. The people who were not able to also had very high odds of having something else on their record. I guess you can fix broken windows but you can not fix stupid.

I have always found that people who have anything bad to say about cops, either in the city or burbs, have usually had an interaction with the police that did not go their way.

From the parent who is oblivious to just how much of a tool their child is, the soccer mom who just does not understand that driving an SUV does not give the right to drive like an a-hole to the guy who gets pulled over and drops the name of a second cousins friend who is on the force in Rochester and does not understand why that was not good enough to get out of a speeding ticket and the lawyer who thinks they can speed in the school zone and should get a "professional courtesy" when they get pulled over as well.

It is pretty easy to spot the a-holes above in any setting.

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I do not have anything "bad" to say about cops but would still like to know why they sit home so much in the burbs while on the clock. After all, they do work for the taxpayers.

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Originally Posted by ichingtheory

I do not have anything "bad" to say about cops but would still like to know why they sit home so much in the burbs while on the clock. After all, they do work for the taxpayers.

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There are a lot of burbs. Can you be more specific? I don't see it. Maybe if you give a department and street you will find out what you want to know.

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Originally Posted by TOOLBAGS

There are a lot of burbs. Can you be more specific? I don't see it. Maybe if you give a department and street you will find out what you want to know.

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We see it in Lancaster and friends of ours know of a few in Cheektowaga as well. I don't want to mention streets for obvious reasons.

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Originally Posted by Sylvan

Now this cant all be because city cops are too busy fighting real crime.

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Don't get me wrong, Amherst is nowhere close to the east side of Buffalo, but there is a decent amount of crime here. A fair amount of burglaries and robberies, in addition to crime there seem to be a lot of violent domestic problems. They're probably arguing over some amount of money.:D If you don't think so, listen to a police scanner for a few nights in a row. I will say that if I was going to commit a crime, I'd try doing so in the city first before I try anything in the suburbs.

I don't have much interaction with decent , law abiding people. My goal is to get the thug, not the guy driving home from work. I'll pull up next to a decent person and tell them their tailight is out, thug is getting pulled over. Most Bflo Cops are like this. We have our bugs. V/T bothers some people, not most of us. Let the working people go to and from , get the gangbangers.

I've been pulled over in the suburbs for what I consider petty offenses. They don't have the same call volume thus the concentration on V/T nonsense. It is a nice money grab for the towns too. I'm way more conscious of my driving in the suburbs, as I don't want to get pulled over either.

Something id like to mention that wasnt brought up about police cars parked at residences for long periods of time....

Alot of police cars are 'given' to a particular officer to use for a period of time, its HIS car... to use, for official police business. Now maybe some of the PO's here can clarify but I think in Amherst they dont 'share' cars...

That being said, you can spot a police car, generally a mile away. If its parked in someones driveway not running, chances are he/she lives there. The simple PRESENCE of the patrol car sitting there, is a crime deterrent all in itself... Even if its a Buffalo Patrol car parked in a Clarence driveway.

So while, there are obvious 'negatives' to officers taking their patrol car home, the presence of that car, parked in front of their house all night adds to the 'safety' effect of the sorrounding neighborhood.

Personally, I dont have a huge problem with it. Especially, if their patrolling district is farther away from the station, than their house... they take the car home at the end of their shift instead of driving ALL the way back to the station which, costs fuel....

Just another way to look at it...

And besides, if you were a PO, wouldnt you want your hot GF to pose naked in front of your patrol car? Cant really do that in the police station parking lot... lol

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Originally Posted by FMD

Something id like to mention that wasnt brought up about police cars parked at residences for long periods of time....

Alot of police cars are 'given' to a particular officer to use for a period of time, its HIS car... to use, for official police business. Now maybe some of the PO's here can clarify but I think in Amherst they dont 'share' cars...

That being said, you can spot a police car, generally a mile away. If its parked in someones driveway not running, chances are he/she lives there. The simple PRESENCE of the patrol car sitting there, is a crime deterrent all in itself... Even if its a Buffalo Patrol car parked in a Clarence driveway.

So while, there are obvious 'negatives' to officers taking their patrol car home, the presence of that car, parked in front of their house all night adds to the 'safety' effect of the sorrounding neighborhood.

Personally, I dont have a huge problem with it. Especially, if their patrolling district is farther away from the station, than their house... they take the car home at the end of their shift instead of driving ALL the way back to the station which, costs fuel....

Just another way to look at it...

And besides, if you were a PO, wouldnt you want your hot GF to pose naked in front of your patrol car? Cant really do that in the police station parking lot... lol

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I believe in Buffalo the only marked patrol cars that are take home cars are in the K-9 division not sure about Amherst and you are correct it is frowned upon having haalf naked hot chicks posing on or in the patrol car but not by me :D

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Originally Posted by FMD

Something id like to mention that wasnt brought up about police cars parked at residences for long periods of time....

Alot of police cars are 'given' to a particular officer to use for a period of time, its HIS car... to use, for official police business. Now maybe some of the PO's here can clarify but I think in Amherst they dont 'share' cars...

That being said, you can spot a police car, generally a mile away. If its parked in someones driveway not running, chances are he/she lives there. The simple PRESENCE of the patrol car sitting there, is a crime deterrent all in itself... Even if its a Buffalo Patrol car parked in a Clarence driveway.

So while, there are obvious 'negatives' to officers taking their patrol car home, the presence of that car, parked in front of their house all night adds to the 'safety' effect of the sorrounding neighborhood.

Personally, I dont have a huge problem with it. Especially, if their patrolling district is farther away from the station, than their house... they take the car home at the end of their shift instead of driving ALL the way back to the station which, costs fuel....

Just another way to look at it...

And besides, if you were a PO, wouldnt you want your hot GF to pose naked in front of your patrol car? Cant really do that in the police station parking lot... lol

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I am more concerned with police cars being at home for hours while policemen are on duty.

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Originally Posted by ichingtheory

I am more concerned with police cars being at home for hours while policemen are on duty.

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I would gamble that doesnt happen much in Buffalo unless the guy/girl is grabbing lunch the call volume is just to high to sit at your house for a few hours let alone sit any where for a few hours

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Originally Posted by unioncop

I would gamble that doesnt happen much in Buffalo unless the guy/girl is grabbing lunch the call volume is just to high to sit at your house for a few hours let alone sit any where for a few hours

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I am referring to Lancaster...

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Originally Posted by ichingtheory

I am referring to Lancaster...

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My bad

4am? why are you sitting on the net instead of catching crooks?

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Originally Posted by FMD

4am? why are you sitting on the net instead of catching crooks?

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and then after a late arrest I got home about 3:45 and had a glass of orange juice and saw that my wife left the lap top on the kitchen table so I decided to log on while having my OJ but I forgot we are on duty 24/7 so you are right I should have been out in my personal car doing traffic stops

let me finish out the rest of my day for everyone well my daughter got up aout 4:30 and wanted some milk so I got it for her then fell asleep about 5 am then got up at 11 am put a storage shelf together for my daughters toys then took a shower and we all went out to lunch (my wife 2 kids and I) and right now I am watching little bear and typing on the computer and in about 30 minutes i will take another shower and leave for work
- hopefully that explains why I didnt catch any crooks during the day

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Originally Posted by unioncop

and then after a late arrest I got home about 3:45 and had a glass of orange juice and saw that my wife left the lap top on the kitchen table so I decided to log on while having my OJ but I forgot we are on duty 24/7 so you are right I should have been out in my personal car doing traffic stops

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What are the shifts for the BPD?

MOst burbs run a 7 to 3, 3 to 11 and 11 to 7am.

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Originally Posted by Dougles

What are the shifts for the BPD?

MOst burbs run a 7 to 3, 3 to 11 and 11 to 7am.

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days - 6 am - 4 pm
afternoons - 3:30 pm - 1:30 pm
midnights - 8 pm - 6 am

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Originally Posted by unioncop

days - 6 am - 4 pm
afternoons - 3:30 pm - 1:30 pm
midnights - 8 pm - 6 am

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What's your rotation? 4 on 3 off?

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Originally Posted by Dougles

What's your rotation? 4 on 3 off?

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yes so every two weeks the shifts over lap for training