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    Judge bans constitution in ohio

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    Judge Kathryn Barber laughed when the defendant, Virgil Vaduva, argued his protest on a public sidewalk outside the Xenia police station constitutes free speech.

    The exchange between Barber and Vaduva occurred after a prosecutor said mentioning the Constitution during the trial would “confuse the jury.”

    Many Americans are surprisingly ignorant of the Constitution and the founding principles of the United States.

    An informal ABC News poll conducted in 2011 revealed that 70 percent of 1,000 people surveyed could not identify the supreme law of the land (the Constitution).

    “Sixty-one percent didn’t know that the length of a U.S. senator’s term is six years, 63 percent couldn’t name the number of Supreme Court justices on the bench (nine), and 86 percent didn’t know that 435 members fill the U.S. House of Representatives,” ABC News reported.
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    I bet they all have computers and Internet law degrees.


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    Many Americans are surprisingly ignorant of the Constitution and the founding principles of the United States.

    An informal ABC News poll conducted in 2011 revealed that 70 percent of 1,000 people surveyed could not identify the supreme law of the land (the Constitution).

    “Sixty-one percent didn’t know that the length of a U.S. senator’s term is six years, 63 percent couldn’t name the number of Supreme Court justices on the bench (nine), and 86 percent didn’t know that 435 members fill the U.S. House of Representatives,” ABC News reported.

    Earlier polls show ignorance of the Constitution is a long standing problem. For example, a 1998 Luntz Research survey showed 59 percent of 13- to 17-year-olds identified Moe, Larry and Curly while only 41 percent correctly cited the legislative, executive and judicial branches, according to the CATO Institute.

    “The National Constitution Center interviewed 1,000 adults and found that 24 percent cannot name a single right guaranteed by the First Amendment. Only 6 percent can cite freedoms of speech, press, assembly and religion. Fifty-two percent do not know the Senate has 100 members. One in six believes the Constitution created a Christian nation.”
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    95% wouldn't know and/or couldn't admit that the founding principles were based on the Bible
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    the point is that the judge, of this case refused the Constitution in his/her court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FMD View Post
    the point is that the judge, of this case refused the Constitution in his/her court.

    Audio is here:
    http://bambuser.com/v/5372976?v=m

    Around 16:10 is where the Constitution comes up.

    Im not making an argument for the judge but what she was saying is that this court will not be able to determine the constitutionality of the ordinance. It will only determine if he broke the ordinance or not.

    The constitutionality of the ordinance should be tired first before they go charging people with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FMD View Post
    the point is that the judge, of this case refused the Constitution in his/her court.
    That's because the court was a court of contract law. The Constitution and Bill of Rights do not exist there, so they can be ignored.

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    Explain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FMD View Post
    Explain?
    It was a court of Statutory Jurisdiction, which is contract law. Any crime where the injured party is a fictitious corporate entity and not a living human soul, is a violation of corporate statute. The Constitution and Bill of Rights do not exist in Statutory Jurisdiction. There the "law" is the terms of a contract, which you are tricked or trapped into consenting to in various devious ways. Once you "consent" to the contract, you "willingly" give up all your rights in favor of that contract that places you under their jurisdiction, and the courts view it as your "permission" to charge and try you for violations of corporate statute. I'm actually surprise this judge didn't threaten to charge this person with contempt if they mentioned their rights again.

    The Constitution and the Bill of Rights exist in Common/Constitution Law jurisdiction. The hard part is you have to know how to claim your rights before they can trap or trick you into consenting to a contract, which throws you into Statutory Jurisdiction... where you will be offered a unilateral contract where only the courts know the full terms of said contract. Unilateral contracts are generally not binding, and are technically fraud... but you have to know that first in order to protest it. If you don't protest, then the courts again view it as your permission to go ahead. Now does the phrase they like to use, "Ignorance of the law is no excuse", start to make more sense?
    BTW, if you don't immediately claim you rights, the courts like to view that as you don't care about them, and again, its your "permission" to go ahead into Statutory Jurisdiction.

    Also forget about any lawyer telling you this or even admitting to it. Its not in the best interest of their profession or their bank account to do so. They are officers of the court, thus part of the scam. Realize also, you are not hiring them to "defend" you like they like to promote. What you are actually hiring them to do is to attempt to renegotiate the terms of a contract that you are not even aware you entered into.
    If they were truly "defending" you, they would disclose that you were being railroaded into a contract, and as you know, no one can force you into a contract you do not want. If they were really on your side, they would be fighting to have the case moved from Statutory Jurisdiction to Common Law jurisdiction, where your rights are protected. But... if they did that, you wouldn't need them as long, and/or maybe not at all... so its not good for their pocketbook to do so.

    I'm sure Nogods will be foaming at the mouth and bringing up his hero Judge Judy multiple times. Pay him no mind... in fact don't even accept what I've said. Research it yourself, its all out there for the taking if you want to find out. Every day, more and more of the scam of Statutory Jurisdiction is being dragged out kicking and screaming into the light as more people are asking questions and looking for answers.

    In fact, it was a situation just like the one above that I personally witnessed while in court for work that started me asking the very question how the courts could just ignore a person's rights like this... and even threaten a person with a contempt charge if they mention their rights again.
    A few months of digging and I found the answer. Your rights are perfectly fine, alive and well in Common Law jurisdiction. Its just that the courts got sneaky and switched from Common Law to Statutory Jurisdiction when we weren't paying attention.
    (And BTW - they did this around 1851, so its not really a new thing. Its just that thanks to the internet, people are just getting together to compare notes, and are finally figuring out the scam.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    95% wouldn't know and/or couldn't admit that the founding principles were based on the Bible
    And of those who DO know, 95% wouldn't know and/or couldn't admit that the bible's principles are based on simple common sense---not sage advice from an invisible character in the sky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    95% wouldn't know and/or couldn't admit that the founding principles were based on the Bible
    Wow...now there is some big time BS. The Constitution is a secular document designed to create a "government of the people, by the people" - not a government of some imaginary supernatural boogieman. The Constitution makes no mention of any deity but instead specifically eliminates oaths to Casper the ghost from qualification for government position, and prohibits government from promoting such nonsense.

    I don't remember Jesus allowing the apostles to vote.

    But lets run with your silly assertion for a second, which version of the bible do you think the founders used to draft the Constitution? The one Thomas Jefferson used that cut out all the Satanic nonsense that most Christians cling too even today?

    What most godiots don't know is that the Declaration of Independence is not the law of the land.

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    Well, when you don't teach it in our schools through civic classes you get dumb people on the constitution. If you want people to know less you stop teaching that topic or any topic "out of sight, out of mind" What we do need more of is Civic classes to be taught in our schools but this is against Obama's administration plans to bring us more into line with his Socialism views therefore, when a judge bans our constitution in Ohio isn't a big surprised because America isn't the same country we had 6.5 years ago and in the next 6 years America will no longer be a free country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riven37 View Post
    Well, when you don't teach it in our schools through civic classes you get dumb people on the constitution. If you want people to know less you stop teaching that topic or any topic "out of sight, out of mind" What we do need more of is Civic classes to be taught in our schools but this is against Obama's administration plans to bring us more into line with his Socialism views therefore, when a judge bans our constitution in Ohio isn't a big surprised because America isn't the same country we had 6.5 years ago and in the next 6 years America will no longer be a free country.
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    why because their eyes might be opened to a different line of thinking than what the main stream media wants you to believe? AKA CNN FOX, MSNBC ect....

    While Mr Jones is off his rocker most of the time, his staff are much more down to earth and in tune with reality. You should check it out...

    Oh wait, that would destroy your wet dream that all is wonderful
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