Obama Offers $3,000 Incentive for Business to Hire Illegals over American Workers

[Yankeefan2009]

Truly a despicable move by the President that will penalize Americans. I wonder if the founding fathers envisioned a time when a sitting US President would favor illegal aliens over hard working American workers? Hipkat do you support this?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ses-have-3000/

Under the president’s new amnesty, businesses will have a $3,000-per-employee incentive to hire illegal immigrants over native-born workers because of a quirk of Obamacare.

President Obama’s temporary amnesty, which lasts three years, declares up to 5 million illegal immigrants to be lawfully in the country and eligible for work permits, but it still deems them ineligible for public benefits such as buying insurance on Obamacare’s health exchanges.
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Under the Affordable Care Act, that means businesses who hire them won’t have to pay a penalty for not providing them health coverage — making them $3,000 more attractive than a similar native-born worker, whom the business by law would have to cover.

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The loophole was confirmed by congressional aides and drew condemnation from those who said it put illegal immigrants ahead of Americans in the job market.

“If it is true that the president’s actions give employers a $3,000 incentive to hire those who came here illegally, he has added insult to injury,” said Rep. Lamar Smith, Texas Republican. “The president’s actions would have just moved those who came here illegally to the front of the line, ahead of unemployed and underemployed Americans.”

A Department of Homeland Security official confirmed that the newly legalized immigrants won’t have access to Obamacare, which opens up the loophole for employers looking to avoid the penalty.

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[nogods]

And of course we can expect all those conservative small business owners to put aside their patriotism to save that $3,000.

I got some bad news for you - those conservative small business owners have been saving a lot more than $3000 per employee paying sub-minimum wages off the books to their illegal immigrant employees. They are not going to put them on the books to save $3000 legally.

[WNYresident]

We are a nation of laws.

Time to apply them.

A law that would stop people illegally entering the USA would be you lose all possibility of becoming a USA citizen if you are caught illegally in the states. Game over.

[Mr. Lackawanna]

We are a nation of laws.

Time to apply them.

A law that would stop people illegally entering the USA would be you lose all possibility of becoming a USA citizen if you are caught illegally in the states. Game over.

Sounds like a good idea to me.

[nogods]

We are a nation of laws.

Time to apply them.

A law that would stop people illegally entering the USA would be you lose all possibility of becoming a USA citizen if you are caught illegally in the states. Game over.

The problem gets resolved a lot faster if we had a law that revoked the citizenship of anyone caught hiring an illegal, and an immediate deportation with the illegal to the illegal's home state.

[WNYresident]

What nogods and others do no grasp is the fact there are 7 billion people on Earth. What if 100,000,000 more start to flock to the USA? Then what? Let the Democratic Party including the www.ecdems.com court the previous people who were here illegally for votes? Amnesty cycle after cycle at the net tax payers expense?

[Save Us]

And of course we can expect all those conservative small business owners to put aside their patriotism to save that $3,000.

I got some bad news for you - those conservative small business owners have been saving a lot more than $3000 per employee paying sub-minimum wages off the books to their illegal immigrant employees. They are not going to put them on the books to save $3000 legally.

Small business start ups and entreprenuerial are at an all time low nationally. I can't even imagine how NY fares. Do know why this is?
3,000 is chump change for what it costs to run a business, I won't bother to comment on the slap in the face aspect to Americans that are out of work looking for a job. Hint it's WAY higher than what you hear from the government.

In short this move just pisses a lot of people off except well, immigrants, but that's something obviously we will have to get used to.

[nogods]

Small business start ups and entreprenuerial are at an all time low nationally. I can't even imagine how NY fares. Do know why this is?
3,000 is chump change for what it costs to run a business, I won't bother to comment on the slap in the face aspect to Americans that are out of work looking for a job. Hint it's WAY higher than what you hear from the government.

In short this move just pisses a lot of people off except well, immigrants, but that's something obviously we will have to get used to.

Uh...you didn't address the part about all those small business owners the conservatives lay claim to who are hiring those illegals.

They save a hell of a lot more than 3K paying them off the books to avoid worker's comp, state disability, unemployment, and the employer's share of FICA taxes, in addition to the sub-minimum wage they pay them.

There aren't any illegal aliens currently employed by a small business owner who isn't employing illegals illegally.

So this is just really an amnesty rule for all those small business owners who employ the illegals.

Conservatives are complaining because they are going to lose money if they have to employee illegals legally.

[Save Us]

Uh...you didn't address the part about all those small business owners the conservatives lay claim to who are hiring those illegals.

They save a hell of a lot more than 3K paying them off the books to avoid worker's comp, state disability, unemployment, and the employer's share of FICA taxes, in addition to the sub-minimum wage they pay them.

There aren't any illegal aliens currently employed by a small business owner who isn't employing illegals illegally.

So this is just really an amnesty rule for all those small business owners who employ the illegals.

Conservatives are complaining because they are going to lose money if they have to employee illegals legally.

Maybe the prospect of losing money is what is keeping start ups at an all time low, since so many fail you have to keep the pipeline of suckers er entreprenuers going.

Personally I am not sure this new direction will affect much of anything because of the above. Corporatocracy will keep the bleeding focused on small business.

[nogods]

What nogods and others do no grasp is the fact there are 7 billion people on Earth. What if 100,000,000 more start to flock to the USA? Then what? Let the Democratic Party including the www.ecdems.com court the previous people who were here illegally for votes? Amnesty cycle after cycle at the net tax payers expense?

All the more reason to deport those who hire the illegals along with the illegals, don't you agree?

[nogods]

Maybe the prospect of losing money is what is keeping start ups at an all time low, since so many fail you have to keep the pipeline of suckers er entreprenuers going.

If a person doesn't start a business because they are afraid of losing money then they weren't business owner material in the first place.

People start business on the faith they will make money. As the saying goes, don't bother stepping up to to the plate with 2 outs in the bottom of the ninth if you are afraid of striking out. Your team needs someone who believes he is going to hit a home run.

And having a lot of capital won't make a business profitable. Jim Kelly wasn't strapped for cash when his bar and restaurant business in Main Place Mall failed.

[Save Us]

If a person doesn't start a business because they are afraid of losing money then they weren't business owner material in the first place.

People start business on the faith they will make money. As the saying goes, don't bother stepping up to to the plate with 2 outs in the bottom of the ninth if you are afraid of striking out. Your team needs someone who believes he is going to hit a home run.

And having a lot of capital won't make a business profitable. Jim Kelly wasn't strapped for cash when his bar and restaurant business in Main Place Mall failed.

I cannot disagree with what you have said.

[NY The Vampire State]

Didn't Obama slam companies that outsourced while he was campaigning? Didn't he vow to punish them and put a stop to it? Now the two faced bastard turns around and hands out $3k to take the jobs away from REAL American people!

Chock up another tally in the LIE column.

[FisherRd]

The problem gets resolved a lot faster if we had a law that revoked the citizenship of anyone caught hiring an illegal, and an immediate deportation with the illegal to the illegal's home state.

If we don't expect our government to follow the laws on the books, why should a business owner?