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    Quote Originally Posted by steven View Post
    start reading the whole article (especialy the ones you link to) instead of just the headlines, you did this before in the other discussion we had, its very aggravating
    You know what's also aggravating? When you post outright false statements based on ignorance and parade it around as if it's fact. Like pretty much everything you posted in these ebola threads previously. You also do that in other discussions.

    Quote Originally Posted by BorderBob View Post
    Do we have any idea what the "universe" of health care workers, working in the field with Ebola patients are? For example, are there 100 workers? Two hundred? And three or four have been stricken with the disease. What is the percentage chance that a single American health care worker will return to the U.S. infected with the disease? Yea, it kinda matters when the government response is to seize them and quarantine them
    Good question. I bet a total number like that would be hard to tally since there isn't one umbrella organization, and some of the groups are international. The American Red Cross listed over 5,000 volunteers, but that might be all red cross orgs, not just americans, and probably would not include all the other groups not associated with the red cross.

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    learn to follow a discussion then get back to me
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    I'll pass. A discussion full of lies and BS isn't much of a discussion.

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    well now that you have had your little prissy hissy fit that you always seem to haver when everyone doesnt agree with you we can get back to the thread.

    Latest:

    Kaci Hickox Won't Follow Maine Ebola Quarantine Rule, Lawyer Says


    Kaci Hickox, the nurse who was quarantined at a New Jersey hospital despite exhibiting no Ebola symptoms after arriving from West Africa, won't follow the quarantine imposed by Maine officials, her attorney said tonight.


    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/kaci-hi...ry?id=26501921
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    Illinois Orders Mandatory Ebola Quarantine For High-Risk Travelers

    Oct 25 (Reuters) - Illinois has ordered mandatory 21-day quarantines for all "high-risk" people who have had direct contact with Ebola patients while in Liberia, Guinea or Sierra Leone, the three West African nations most affected by the outbreak.

    The order, to be implemented by local health authorities, includes all medical personnel who treated patients with the often-deadly disease in those three countries. Previously such high-risk individuals were subject to voluntary isolation.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_6046976.html
    Last edited by steven; October 29th, 2014 at 12:54 AM.
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    The most amusing thing in this thread is not one person has talked about the personal responsibility to others of someone who is potentially at risk. People talk about how to bypass things that, while clumsy, are setup with the intent to protect others. But people don't talk about how much of a selfish a**hole people who could potentially put others at risk are.

    A perfect example is this Kaci Hickox who wants to talk about her rights but shows little regards for the potential danger she is putting others at. Personally, I think she should be brought up on murder charges if she happens to get sick and in turn gets others sick.

    21 days is a tiny bit of time when you consider the risks. I applaud someone for going to help others but they should be overly cautious in returning.

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    Lefty is looking at the situation from the other person's point of view. Quite a few people don't do that. Specially the tax and spend type mindset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    A perfect example is this Kaci Hickox who wants to talk about her rights but shows little regards for the potential danger she is putting others at. Personally, I think she should be brought up on murder charges if she happens to get sick and in turn gets others sick.
    Not really, because she's not contagious at all. She knows that. Her doctors know that. The CDC knows that. The federal govt knows that. That's why they have not pushed for any sort of quarantine for people like her with no symptoms. It's only the paranoid-and-panic crowd that sees her as some sort of bogey man that must be arrested and locked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    Lefty is looking at the situation from the other person's point of view. Quite a few people don't do that. Specially the tax and spend type mindset.
    How does the "tax and spend mindset" play into any of this in any way?

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    But people don't talk about how much of a selfish a**hole people who could potentially put others at risk are.
    People who think taxes should just keep going up for what ever the agenda is they want without any regards to the people who pay those taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    The most amusing thing in this thread is not one person has talked about the personal responsibility to others of someone who is potentially at risk. People talk about how to bypass things that, while clumsy, are setup with the intent to protect others. But people don't talk about how much of a selfish a**hole people who could potentially put others at risk are.

    A perfect example is this Kaci Hickox who wants to talk about her rights but shows little regards for the potential danger she is putting others at. Personally, I think she should be brought up on murder charges if she happens to get sick and in turn gets others sick.

    21 days is a tiny bit of time when you consider the risks. I applaud someone for going to help others but they should be overly cautious in returning.
    Maine health commissioner Mary Mayhew said late Wednesday afternoon that, even as it continues talks with Hickox's representatives, the state is in the process of filing a court order to require the nurse to abide by a 21-day quarantine. Mayhew cited concerns about Hickox's hands-on role in dealing with Ebola patients, as well as "concerns about the lack of reliability and the lack of trustworthiness in the information that has been received."

    "You need to be able to have trust and credibility in that information," the state health commissioner said. "That makes her a higher risk."

    Mayhew also blasted what she called "the lack of leadership at the federal level" that has created "a patchwork quilt of state-by-state determinations," vowing that "we will not standby and
    Asked what she'd tell Hickox, Mayhew said, "We have been pleading for common sense, for an appreciation for the risks that exists." She pointed to other states such as New Jersey, New York and Illinois that have implemented 21-day quarantines for health care workers returning from West Africa, over objections from some medical professionals and federal officials.

    The health commissioner said she "did not understand" why Hickox is challenging what she calls a "common-sense approach" of staying home for three weeks. (That amount of time is significant because it may take that long between when a person gets Ebola)

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/29/health...ola/index.html

    Some people just cant grasp the concept that it can take up to 21 days to show symptoms. For some people... common sense just goes out the window.
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