The Real Reason White People say "All Lives Matter"

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The 60's had the Black Panther Movement....
2016...Black Lives Matter
find other similarities...BESIDES VIOLENCE...Do you really think that there has been anything positive from these groups...besides violence and increasing the divide between black and white?

BLM and the original Black Panthers are very different. There are no armed BLM. The Panthers put a few bad cops six feet under when they came looking for trouble, but their breakfast and free health care programs are imitated today and warranted much surveillance.

[Mindcrime]

Yes. I know a LOT of stand black and Mexicans that get treated by how they carry themselves. Walking down the street, asking for help with your pants hanging down around your knees, looking and acting like a gangabnger poster child isn't gonna get you respect. I had a black friend tell me I need to change my perception of the black community and I said, no, the black community needs to change my perception. I go by what I see.

If the discrimination were strictly limited to people that dress oddly, you might be able to defend profiling and stereotyping people. But it is not. It is anyone with dark skin. Clean cut, elderly, professional, well-dressed black people also get harassed, on a regular basis, for no reason whatsoever. Trying to justify it by blaming it on fashion really decimates your own argument.

[HipKat]

If the discrimination were strictly limited to people that dress oddly, you might be able to defend profiling and stereotyping people. But it is not. It is anyone with dark skin. Clean cut, elderly, professional, well-dressed black people also get harassed, on a regular basis, for no reason whatsoever. Trying to justify it by blaming it on fashion really decimates your own argument.

Obviously fashion was just a quick witted attempt to portray a bigger issue.

[joe d.]

BLM and the original Black Panthers are very different. There are no armed BLM. The Panthers put a few bad cops six feet under when they came looking for trouble, but their breakfast and free health care programs are imitated today and warranted much surveillance.

AND...BLM is not violent?? ...all peaceful huh?...I CAN HEAR...them singing "kumbya" now!

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Funny you should put Chris Rock up.... watch "his how not to get your ass beat by the police."

While the vast majority of police are harmless, the harmless ones aren't putting pressure on the bad ones. Ironically I was directed to this site by a good cop back in 2009. Cariol Horne, who has an account on these pages. At one time her case was the prime new story for a couple years, since then police abuse has exploded mainly due to many surrounding gutless officers allowing their fellow officers to trample over blacks.

Saw it years ago. Rock is correct on both points.

[HipKat]

SO Police don't enforce the rules when it comes to other police. But blacks ALWAYS give up the thugs in their neighborhoods when crimes are committed.

"I didn't see nuthin' officer". "He was such a good boy, don't know why he got shot"

Please..........

[buffy]

While the vast majority of police are harmless, the harmless ones aren't putting pressure on the bad ones. Ironically I was directed to this site by a good cop back in 2009. Cariol Horne, who has an account on these pages. At one time her case was the prime new story for a couple years, since then police abuse has exploded mainly due to many surrounding gutless officers allowing their fellow officers to trample over blacks.

Saw it years ago. Rock is correct on both points.

I remember the Cariol Horne incident. She saw excessive force going down during a call. She got in between the white cop and the black prep. Turned out the black perp was a relative/acquaintance of hers, which complicated matters and her judgement - She used her police vehicle to block the cop car that was transporting this person to headquarters for booking.

I asked a female friend on the force about it at the time and her opinion of Horne was not good. It was the blocking of traffic in an attempt to interfere with an arrest that was over-the-top behavior for her.

[Mindcrime]

All deference to Chris Rock, he's a funny guy.

However, that's not exactly relevant. Consider the case of Philando Castile. A black man who pulled over his car properly, kept his hands in view, informed officer he was permitted to carry concealed, complied with all the officer's demands -- every possible reason to believe he was a responsible, trained gun owner who knew exactly how to handle an interaction with the police...and was still murdered.

Or the case of Charles Kinsey. Another black man, sitting with an autistic patient, was lying down on the ground, arms outstretched, identifying himself to the officer, literally could not have been more compliant...and was still shot. (When asked why he fired, the officer stated "I don't know.")

It's not a matter of black people being shot because they're acting like criminals or being belligerent. They're being shot disproportionately because of their color.

[HipKat]

Many bad apples have ruined that tree.

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I remember the Cariol Horne incident. She saw excessive force going down during a call. She got in between the white cop and the black prep. Turned out the black perp was a relative/acquaintance of hers, which complicated matters and her judgement - She used her police vehicle to block the cop car that was transporting this person to headquarters for booking.

I asked a female friend on the force about it at the time and her opinion of Horne was not good. It was the blocking of traffic in an attempt to interfere with an arrest that was over-the-top behavior for her.

Dont know what incident you refer to but it wasn't Horne. In all these years of covering it I never heard of her using her squadcar as an instrument of obstruction.... because it never happened. She merely stopped a historically out of control fellow officer from appying a chokehold.

What other officers say about her is no indication of validity since they were alrwady in the process of bad-jacketing her. In these cases lies are not uncommon. btw she is not related to your "perp," Neal Mack, the ex- comish McCarthy Gipson is

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SO Police don't enforce the rules when it comes to other police. But blacks ALWAYS give up the thugs in their neighborhoods when crimes are committed.

"I didn't see nuthin' officer". "He was such a good boy, don't know why he got shot"

Please..........

Okay lets write some legislation forcing gang members to implement dash and body cams.

[pointblank]

I remember the Cariol Horne incident. She saw excessive force going down during a call. She got in between the white cop and the black prep. Turned out the black perp was a relative/acquaintance of hers, which complicated matters and her judgement - She used her police vehicle to block the cop car that was transporting this person to headquarters for booking.

I asked a female friend on the force about it at the time and her opinion of Horne was not good. It was the blocking of traffic in an attempt to interfere with an arrest that was over-the-top behavior for her.

This should give you some basic info on the story- http://www.blackstarnews.com/money/o...-no-peace.html

[Save Us]

All deference to Chris Rock, he's a funny guy.

However, that's not exactly relevant. Consider the case of Philando Castile. A black man who pulled over his car properly, kept his hands in view, informed officer he was permitted to carry concealed, complied with all the officer's demands -- every possible reason to believe he was a responsible, trained gun owner who knew exactly how to handle an interaction with the police...and was still murdered.

Or the case of Charles Kinsey. Another black man, sitting with an autistic patient, was lying down on the ground, arms outstretched, identifying himself to the officer, literally could not have been more compliant...and was still shot. (When asked why he fired, the officer stated "I don't know.")

It's not a matter of black people being shot because they're acting like criminals or being belligerent. They're being shot disproportionately because of their color.

Seriously,

According to the Washington post in2015, only 4 percent were a white cop shot an unarmed black man.

[buffy]

Dont know what incident you refer to but it wasn't Horne. In all these years of covering it I never heard of her using her squadcar as an instrument of obstruction.... because it never happened. She merely stopped a historically out of control fellow officer from appying a chokehold.

What other officers say about her is no indication of validity since they were alrwady in the process of bad-jacketing her. In these cases lies are not uncommon. btw she is not related to your "perp," Neal Mack, the ex- comish McCarthy Gipson is

You're right, it wasn't Horne - it was Alicia King - she followed a police cruiser in her cruiser, blocked it, and tried to interfere with the arrest of her brother, as he tried to kick out the cruiser windows.

we've got the original thread here... http://www.speakupwny.com/forums/sho...-BRAVO-!/page5

[LuvinBuffalo]

Here's a link to another video - this one is by Coffey Anderson, a country singer, with advice for handling a traffic stop. He may not be a comedian like Chris Rock, but his message is clear.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/10/us/cou...rpt/index.html