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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    Apparently those who are leaving aren't as smart as Donald Trump.
    Some people make so much money they can deal with the high taxes. Others like Galisano just leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    If you laid the budget out with a 20% cut in salaries across the board and didn't threaten to cut sports, bussing etc... people would vote for it.
    I don't think you're following my point. People already approve every budget today, even with tax increases. There is no incentive for them to make cuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300miles View Post
    But people have to start somewhere, right? If the residents of Cheektowaga can't even say no to school tax increases (which is 60% of their town tax) then the rest sounds like a lost cause. There's an argument to go for the low-hanging fruit first. Get some successes that will stop taxes from increasing more. No, it won't solve all the taxation problems, but it's better than just throwing our hands up in the air while complaining about what somebody else isn't doing.

    To me it seems that the ever increasing school taxes just prove to Albany that we aren't really serious about wanting to cut taxes.
    Let me word out a budget vote. I wouldn't be cutting items like sports, busing and so forth. We can start on cutting benefit packages like countless people have in the private sector along with some of the obnoxious salaries some (not all) make. If one of our employees made a comment like "You know in the private sector I can make way more" my answer would be.. "don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out" there are other qualified people who will do the job for a fair amount.

    You are 100% correct. We won't save the taxation problem by throwing our hands up in the air complaining about it. We just have to work harder on making the changes we need to implement these cuts. State constitution time to change some of the labor laws that basically give a monopoly of services to small groups of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300miles View Post
    But people have to start somewhere, right? If the residents of Cheektowaga can't even say no to school tax increases (which is 60% of their town tax) then the rest sounds like a lost cause. There's an argument to go for the low-hanging fruit first. Get some successes that will stop taxes from increasing more. No, it won't solve all the taxation problems, but it's better than just throwing our hands up in the air while complaining about what somebody else isn't doing.

    To me it seems that the ever increasing school taxes just prove to Albany that we aren't really serious about wanting to cut taxes.
    Yes, starting somewhere is like looking at Mount Everest with regard to the taxes here. It is overwhelming. Most people right or wrong just give up. We can't even get this state to pass legislation addressing corruption in Albany, I mean it's seriously f'd. As far as school taxes it would require the citizenry to vote against NYSUT which is responsible for most of our school tax expenditure. Healthcare and pensions also add to the burden. Most states would rather just have people leave then take on any meaningful tax reform and at last count I don't think NY is too open to public discourse,, just ask any anti safe act person.

    Somethings are just hopeless, just like Illinois, Detroit, Fresno...etc. etc. Sometimes it's just easier to leave,, kinda like a bad relationship.

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    WNY, you asked for my opinion? I'll offer a suggestion instead. Stop by the Social Security office downtown some day. It's like a meeting of the UN General Assembly as they line up trying to qualify for disability or some other taxpayer funded benefit. Just so you know this is brought to you by outfits like Catholic Charities working hand in hand with democrats to provide a constant source of democratic voters. I stopped my contributions to Catholic Charities years ago over crappola like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grump View Post
    WNY, you asked for my opinion? I'll offer a suggestion instead. Stop by the Social Security office downtown some day. It's like a meeting of the UN General Assembly as they line up trying to qualify for disability or some other taxpayer funded benefit. Just so you know this is brought to you by outfits like Catholic Charities working hand in hand with democrats to provide a constant source of democratic voters. I stopped my contributions to Catholic Charities years ago over crappola like this.

    DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST UTOPIAS .....so everyone can be poor.

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    So how did the voting go this week? Did Cheektowaga residents approve themselves another tax increase?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300miles View Post
    So how did the voting go this week? Did Cheektowaga residents approve themselves another tax increase?
    Don't know. Most likely all the school employees and their family members voted for an increase.

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    Allow me to amend a previous post to this thread. I suggested that a trip to the Social Security office downtown was like attending a meeting of the UN General Assembly. Actually, it's more like attending a meeting of the Arab League. It's a bit unfair to drag other groups into something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300miles View Post
    If the largest portion of the tax bill is directly controlled by local voters, why do they keep approving new spending? I know you like to blame the other political party, and blame county immigration, and blame Albany... but local voters have a direct say in a huge chunk of their own tax bill, and yet year after year they keep approving whatever the schools put in front of them. If taxes are so important, why don't voters say that with their school-spending votes?
    It does not matter what the locals vote, the bill goes up no matter what! BOE's are rubber stampers that mean NOTHING!
    The above is opinion & commentary, I am exercising my 1st Amendment rights as a US citizen. Posts are NOT made with any malicious intent.

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