Transit & William St.Developer & Town Board Guilty!

[4248]

Developer guilty of the mounting trash and building material.
Town Board condones this mess.

Its been over four years now , and the Bella Vista Group keeps dumping. This is a tactic this developer uses to help persuade communities to let them have there way.

If they want to build on a certain location , they will purchase the property or put it under contract . If they meet resistance , then they let it decay or in this case - pile refuse on it. They create the eye soar so residents will complain .

In some cases they will have their friends make the complaints. Or they will even have a Town Board member publicly target the site. The Board member will act as though they are fighting blight or "Cleaning up the Eye Soar." In reality the board is helping this developer get what he wanted all along. They then spin it into being a good thing and everyone gets paid.

The Lancaster Town Board is fully aware of this game. They have refused to take any meaningful legal action against this developer .
This developer controls the Endorsements of the local conservative Party.
This developer has many jobs to offer in exchange for favors.
This developer can and does raise thousands of dollars for local Town , County and State Politicians.

So just hold on a bit longer , When Bella Vista and the Town Board feel the locals who stalled Walmart have suffered enough and the property gets filled enough - they will agree to clear and build on that location.

Just maybe while they are clearing the piles away , enough will just happen to be dozed into the area to bring it out of wetland or flood plain status.
Gee - isn't that convenient for the owners. Won't be the first time he got away with this or the last!

[therising]

...because, I'm not likely to say this again too soon:

I agree with you.

[ghosthunter]

I don't know for sure, but those townhouse residents are probably kicking into the pot. Anything to keep the land a dumping ground rather than a Walmart.

[4248]

I don't know for sure, but those townhouse residents are probably kicking into the pot. Anything to keep the land a dumping ground rather than a Walmart.

I get it, that is your attempt at sarcasm! Please tell me you don't actually think they welcome their lives being disrupted , property values stunted as well as privacy invaded.

This trash pile has been allowed by the Town Board and built by Bela Vista to punish the people in the townhouses for standing in the Developers way. They just wanted privacy and instead received a four year plus legal battle. The developer and Town could have enforced the first agreement brokered by Stemp-nick and all would have been finished.

In stead Miss Stemp-nick lied , the developer showed his vindictive side and the Townhouse owners were punished. This included the developer bulldozing the tree-line that sheltered the town houses line of sight to the trash heap.

He also broke the law by bulldozing trees and wetlands that were supposed to be protected by law.

There is a man living on Pavement rd. who is on the opposite political side of the fence.He has a pile of fill on his land. The Town attorney and town board sued this man through three courts to have him remove his excess dirt. This dirt was his from that lot that was a result of building his home. No trash,no outside cement or other forbidden items-Clean Fill.The home owner won once the court action was removed from the Lancaster DParty Justice system.

Why have they not forced Bela Vista to clean up this Transit/William site? If they do they(present board members) won't receive the Lancaster/Depew Conservative Parties Endorsements or the funding funneled through it from Bella Vista and other local Developers associated with BV or LDCP. Bottom line!

[bigjoe]

Bella Vista does not own the site, they sold the land to Walmart! The developer would certainly not condone dumping and, in fact, has already prosecuted at least one illegal dumper caught at the site. No dumping or filling has been performed by the developer - thats just nonsense.

Due to the high profile of this site, no work can or will be performed (including any clean up) until all proper procedures, rules, applications and permits are in hand! Prior to having the nuisance lawsuits thrown out of court, the developer was unable to do any work on the site - the lawsuits prevented any remedial work being done!

Bella Vista did not break or bend any laws in the development of the site; they did not illegally remove trees, they did not illegally dump, they did not illegally fill or damage any wetlands - all of those accusations were disproven in the court procedures.

bullitt,... your conspiracy theories are childish, your accusations are without merit, and your "facts" could'nt be more wrong! Maybe you should consider writing fairy tales for a living, you seem to have a talent for it.

[4248]

BigJoe,

You can spin your **** any way you want. Bella Vista and friends are to blame.You people care about nothing but your wallets.I have personally seen your type in action - there is no level of deceit or intimidation too low for them to use.
I could care less how you feel to wards me.Really i feel sorry for the family involved.They can have every thing - but they will never have true success - because they try to buy their way through life.
It's as i said with B.G. - it's the era of influence they grew up in. It's like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid. They just can't get used to dealing on the straight and present legal rules.
I hope they will just learn - that if they truly helped the community - they would be able to leave a legacy of innovation - instead of a string of empty buildings. I understand - developers make money building - they don't care about long term environmental or the personal impacts they leave behind.
Recollections and memories fade with time ! Sins are forgiven and bad deeds washed away - but the truth is and will be one thing - the truth!

[summerfield1973]

BigJoe,

You can spin your **** any way you want. Bella Vista and friends are to blame.You people care about nothing but your wallets.I have personally seen your type in action - there is no level of deceit or intimidation too low for them to use.
I could care less how you feel to wards me.Really i feel sorry for the family involved.They can have every thing - but they will never have true success - because they try to buy their way through life.
It's as i said with B.G. - it's the era of influence they grew up in. It's like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid. They just can't get used to dealing on the straight and present legal rules.
I hope they will just learn - that if they truly helped the community - they would be able to leave a legacy of innovation - instead of a string of empty buildings. I understand - developers make money building - they don't care about long term environmental or the personal impacts they leave behind.
Recollections and memories fade with time ! Sins are forgiven and bad deeds washed away - but the truth is and will be one thing - the truth!

First of all..........Walmart bought the lot for 660K a few months ago. I have seen NO increase in dumpage since that point of time. And I drive by the site every day.

Secondly, they should allow the "super" Walmart to come in and shut down Tops and Wegmans with their overinflated prices. I drive to Clarence to shop at their SuperWalmart and calculated that their prices are 35-40% CHEAPER than tops or Wegmans. I save $40 a week.

Lastly, if those townhouse owners were so concerned about the resale value of their houses, they wouldn't have bought so close to a MAJOR thoroughfare, none the less, a growing intersection. What did you think was going to happen??? The land is too valuable to just sit there. If Walmart moves in their backyard and their resale values go down, it's their own fault for not doing their homework before purchasing.

[averagejoe]

First of all..........Walmart bought the lot for 660K a few months ago. I have seen NO increase in dumpage since that point of time. And I drive by the site every day.

Secondly, they should allow the "super" Walmart to come in and shut down Tops and Wegmans with their overinflated prices. I drive to Clarence to shop at their SuperWalmart and calculated that their prices are 35-40% CHEAPER than tops or Wegmans. I save $40 a week.

Lastly, if those townhouse owners were so concerned about the resale value of their houses, they wouldn't have bought so close to a MAJOR thoroughfare, none the less, a growing intersection. What did you think was going to happen??? The land is too valuable to just sit there. If Walmart moves in their backyard and their resale values go down, it's their own fault for not doing their homework before purchasing.

If you buy property that borders a commercially zoned land that is your own fault.

[ghosthunter]

If you buy property that borders a commercially zoned land that is your own fault.

I agree. You can't expect to buy a house that backs up to a major thoroughfare (no matter how desolate that thoroughfare may be), and not expect commercial development at some point in time.

[colossus27]

First of all..........Walmart bought the lot for 660K a few months ago. I have seen NO increase in dumpage since that point of time. And I drive by the site every day.

Secondly, they should allow the "super" Walmart to come in and shut down Tops and Wegmans with their overinflated prices. I drive to Clarence to shop at their SuperWalmart and calculated that their prices are 35-40% CHEAPER than tops or Wegmans. I save $40 a week.

All well and good, but Wal-Mart coexists w/Target, Wegmans, and (I think?) Tops further up north on Transit. They're not going to shut them down.

[summerfield1973]

All well and good, but Wal-Mart coexists w/Target, Wegmans, and (I think?) Tops further up north on Transit. They're not going to shut them down.

I have to disagree with you there, I have heard rumblings that Walmart has found out that Ahold (Tops) is backing the lobbyists that are threatening the development. That was a planned "Walmart" which is now a planned "Super Walmart" to close down Tops. They have also propsed to turn some of the other regular stores into Super Walmarts (WALDEN @ UNION, ex)

This comes from a friend who is pretty high up at Target in the region.

[colossus27]

I have to disagree with you there, I have heard rumblings that Walmart has found out that Ahold (Tops) is backing the lobbyists that are threatening the development. That was a planned "Walmart" which is now a planned "Super Walmart" to close down Tops. They have also propsed to turn some of the other regular stores into Super Walmarts (WALDEN @ UNION, ex)

This comes from a friend who is pretty high up at Target in the region.

Well, frankly, since Tops charges in the neighborhood of $5 for a 12-pack of brand name soda, I'd welcome the competition.

And there's no way that Wal-Mart is gonna touch Wegman's breads, meats, or produce. Price not withstanding, there's enough coin in this area that people will pay more for the quality.

[ghosthunter]

Well, frankly, since Tops charges in the neighborhood of $5 for a 12-pack of brand name soda, I'd welcome the competition.

And there's no way that Wal-Mart is gonna touch Wegman's breads, meats, or produce. Price not withstanding, there's enough coin in this area that people will pay more for the quality.

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ITA on all counts.