Farewell, Squaw Island.

[Linda_D]

The KKK was created after the fact ...after the slave traders in the South bought and brought them here like material possessions. When society began to evolve and realized it was wrong...hard core inhumane treatment of the slaves were organized...thus the KKK....again...the source of slavery was from their own people i.e tribal chiefs..etc,selling them like animals to the white man who found a market for them...and WILLING tribal leaders to sell their own.....for use of cheap labor and profit.

NOT EXACTLY.

The KKK was originally organized shortly after the Civil War by ex-Confederate general Nathan Bedford Forrest, who in April, 1864, commanded the Southerners who carried out the massacre Union soldiers, mostly black, while they were trying to surrender at Ft Pillow in Tennessee. It's primary aim was the terrorizing of blacks so that they wouldn't vote or exercise their other newly gained civil rights. Later, in the 1920s, the Klan added Catholics and Jews to their hit list.

[WNYresident]

They didn't own slaves but they supported slavery by supporting politicians who supported the protection of slavery at all costs. Mostly, they didn't own slaves because they couldn't afford to buy any, but many non-slaveholders made profits by renting slaves to work for them, especially in factories. They voted for secessionists, and they fought for secessionists.

Your argument is similar to the one that some use to pretend that the majority of Germans in the Third Reich didn't support Hitler and the Nazis and didn't know about the atrocities. Neither one holds water.

Or people didn't support the politicians who supported slavery because of apathy. I think that's the word. THere are people in NYS who think their vote does count anymore so they don't bother to vote.

You and nogods including many liberals/democrats assume quite a bit. You assume people in the south didn't have slaves because they couldn't afford them versus thinking maybe some people in the south didn't believe in slavery.

So why is it ok for you to assume everyone in the south supported as issue but if someone makes the same statement against ( as example) islamic Muslims it's wrong? So why are you allowed to paint one group with one brush but we can't paint other groups with one brush?

[WNYresident]

NOT EXACTLY.

The KKK was originally organized shortly after the Civil War by ex-Confederate general Nathan Bedford Forrest, who in April, 1864, commanded the Southerners who carried out the massacre Union soldiers, mostly black, while they were trying to surrender at Ft Pillow in Tennessee. It's primary aim was the terrorizing of blacks so that they wouldn't vote or exercise their other newly gained civil rights. Later, in the 1920s, the Klan added Catholics and Jews to their hit list.

A democrat, correct?

[FMD]

Yes the KKK is a democrat group. I dont understand the mentality of the thought process of liberal democrats. First nothing is every their fault. Everything they do is for the 'greater good' to hell with personal liberties freedoms and rights, and furthermore, they jump on the Big Govt can fix everything bandwagon as though it has this meticulous track record of fixing everything.

Everything the Govt touches it screws up.

And why do democrats hate freedom, liberty and rights for the individual?

[nogods]

Or people didn't support the politicians who supported slavery because of apathy. I think that's the word. THere are people in NYS who think their vote does count anymore so they don't bother to vote.

You and nogods including many liberals/democrats assume quite a bit. You assume people in the south didn't have slaves because they couldn't afford them versus thinking maybe some people in the south didn't believe in slavery.

So why is it ok for you to assume everyone in the south supported as issue but if someone makes the same statement against ( as example) islamic Muslims it's wrong? So why are you allowed to paint one group with one brush but we can't paint other groups with one brush?

People who didn't support slavery in the south were not waving the slavery supporters' flag. Just like today. People who support slavery waive that flag. People who don't support slavery don't waive that flag.

[nogods]

A democrat, correct?

So what?

Democrats can be proud that their party evolved from slave owners to the party that brought about the civil rights movement and continues today as the party most supportive of equal rights for everyone.

Are Republicans proud of their degradation from the party of Lincoln to the homophobic anti-women xenophobics they have become today? From the party that lead the fight for freedom of the slaves to the party that despises the civil rights movement of the 60's?

We know that many Republicans don't believe in the science of evolution, but are they proud of trying to prove evolution doesn't exist in the political world for them as well?

We also know that those waiving the flag of the bigoted traitors today are exhibiting their support for the ideology it represents.

[BorderBob]

You people and your labels. The democrat party of the 1860's was not progressive or liberal. They don't believe in owning human beings.



b.b.

[WNYresident]

So what?

Democrats can be proud that their party evolved from slave owners to the party that brought about the civil rights movement and continues today as the party most supportive of equal rights for everyone.

The Party of Civil Rights

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...n-d-williamson

[cheekman]

Love to see this .... NASCAR fans defend, display Confederate flags at Daytona.. people with some testicles..
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (AP) — Steven Rebenstorf has numerous flags flying atop his canopy tent inside Daytona International Speedway.

The Confederate flag is front and center.

It's been like that for years. And the 57-year-old Rebenstorf has no plans to take it down — not even if NASCAR decides to ban the embattled flag from its racetracks.

"They'd have to come and get it," Rebenstorf said Saturday, pointing out that his American flag purposely flies a few inches higher than the rest.

Rebenstorf and others staunchly defended their Confederate flags at NASCAR's first race in the South since the racing series and its tracks urged fans to no longer wave the banner. Dozens were scattered throughout the vast infield all weekend leading to Sunday's race.

"It kills me that NASCAR is jumping on the bandwagon," said 55-year-old Paul Stevens of nearby Port Orange. "They should just let it pass, let everything die down. But NASCAR is too quick to try to be politically correct like everybody else."

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar-...6660--spt.html





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[nogods]

Love to see this .... NASCAR fans defend, display Confederate flags at Daytona.. people with some testicles..

these NASCAR fans? Good to know you enjoy being part of that crowd.

[WNYresident]

So nogods. What that photo taken at a nascar event?

[cheekman]

NG...
OCALA, Fla. — As lawmakers in South Carolina consider removing the Confederate flag from the Statehouse grounds, a north Florida county has decided to do the opposite.

The Marion County Commission voted Tuesday unanimously to again fly the Confederate flag in front of a government building, weeks after it had been taken down.

The interim county administrator had removed the flag at the McPherson Governmental Complex in Ocala, joining other communities across the South and nationwide that took down or reconsidered Confederate symbols after the June 17 killing of nine black people at a Charleston, South Carolina, church. A white man who appeared in photos waving Confederate flags is charged.

The Ocala Star-Banner reports (http://bit.ly/1G5BL4T ) that several citizens spoke in favor of restoring the flag.

Commissioners say it'll be flown with a display explaining its historical significance.

[nogods]

Just more bigots identifying themselves for us.

Here is the historical significance of the traitors' flag:

The Cornerstone Speech, also known as the Cornerstone Address, was an oration delivered by Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens at the Athenaeum in Savannah, Georgia, on March 21, 1861.

Stephens' speech explained what the fundamental differences were between the constitutions of the Confederacy and that of the United States, enumerated contrasts between U.S. and Confederate ideologies and beliefs, laid out the Confederacy's causes for starting the American Civil War, and defended slavery.

Stephens' speech declared that African slavery was the "immediate cause" of secession, and that the Confederate Constitution had put to rest the "agitating questions" as to the "proper status of the negro in our form of civilization".

The new Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutions—African slavery as it exists among us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution.

Jefferson, in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old Constitution were, that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with; but the general opinion of the men of that day was, that, somehow or other, in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away...

Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the idea of a Government built upon it—when the "storm came and the wind blew, it fell."

Our new Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition.

So here is what we know of those who waive the confederate flag with pride - they are racists and bigots, and when they claim they are not they are liars.