Two killed outside Mohammed cartoon contest in Garland, Texas

[FMD]

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So these two Lesbians walk into a bakery...looking to buy a wedding cake.....



b.b.

So you shop somewhere else. What happened to those business owners is a crime. I thought this was America? Where I could conduct business they way *I* want? but wait, 'as long as my business doesnt offend people' Whats next? Its a crime to charge X to do X because my overhead is higher than the next guy?

Maybe, we should fine Vinyl Graphics hundreds of thousands of dollars because they provide an exceptionally high quality product, at a fair price, but because some one else can provide subpar materails, for less, they should match that?

Where does it end?

What it ultimately comes down to is FREEDOM

the FREEDOM to pick and choose who we as a people work for. Small businesses, choose who they work for. News Flash, yes every small business chooses who they work for.

Not so in your face, as the bakers, but we choose who we work for.

The bakers got castrated by the media, for standing up for themselves. Anyone that agress with their bull**** fine, should be kicked in the nuts. Dopnt like it? shop some where else... seriously...

Thanks to a bunch of whiners, the bake shop that got castrated, will most likely go bankrupt.

no big deal right?

Two or maybe 3 people, put their lifes work, their savings, equity on their homes, ect to start a business.
They forgone vacations the 'luxeries' to make their business work
They put all they had into their business.
They followed the law (NOT CHEAP)

they gave great sacrifice to give exceptional service at an affordable price.

They essentially put their collective livelihoods on the line to make this work.

a gay cpl walks in the door.

Game Over.

Are you for real?!

These people arnt just being put out of business, but they will lose thier homes, cars, ect.. because two whiny people got 'offended'

Thats what this boils down too...

and thats reality...

its called FREEDOM

Where is that FREEDOM for those business owners?

[WNYresident]

Here is an hypocritical issue I see with the people who "lead" NYS.

Why do state lawmakers say that gas stations can't charge when they want for a product or service?

Or any company for that matter? Yet they tell us property/business owners what we are going to pay for a service they provide?

Do you know right now the senate or assembly is actually considering a pay raise for themselves? I think we are being price gouged as it is. Only way we are going to rid ourselves of the status quo is to start at the bottom. Village boards/town boards. The support starts at the bottom. Elections 2015 are on the way.

[WNYresident]

its called FREEDOM

I am not saying anyone should be kept from doing what they want. I'm not saying people can't express themselves with a contest.

In the case of the cartoon contest it's pure stupidity

Your right to free speech doesn't include the possible damage you may cause to surrounding property and/or people. Could you yell fire in a crowded theater, perhaps some kids get trampled to death and then use the excuse it's "It's my freedom of speech"?

[nogods]

I am not saying anyone should be kept from doing what they want. I'm not saying people can't express themselves with a contest.

In the case of the cartoon contest it's pure stupidity

Your right to free speech doesn't include the possible damage you may cause to surrounding property and/or people. Could you yell fire in a crowded theater, perhaps some kids get trampled to death and then use the excuse it's "It's my freedom of speech"?

it was held inside a building. It affected no one others than those who attended and the insane muslim godiots who think their sky daddy doesn't have a sense of humor. It wasn't the same as putting a swastika on a synagogue.

[WNYresident]

it was held inside a building. It affected no one others than those who attended and the insane muslim godiots who think their sky daddy doesn't have a sense of humor. It wasn't the same as putting a swastika on a synagogue.

Did they own this building? It didn't affect others because luckily the police officer was a good shot. If that cop wasn't a good shot and/or they got into the building before the cop shot them others not involved with the contest could have been shot.

[nogods]

Did they own this building? It didn't affect others because luckily the police officer was a good shot. If that cop wasn't a good shot and/or they got into the building before the cop shot them others not involved with the contest could have been shot.

The cartoon drawing contest moved from the building to the street where a chalk drawing of Mohomud won

[Sam_Eagle]

Really res? Last time I checked we had this thing called freedom of speech in this country. Seems like christians, jews, Mormons, understand this and peacefully object to those that mock their religion. But the muzzies get all butt hurt and violent and can't take the criticism that other religions get. And by this they get people afraid to say anything.

[WNYresident]

I didn't say they should be prevented from having a drawing Mohammed contest. I'm saying it's was stupid of them to do so. Others besides themselves could have been injured or killed

I'll repeat myself from post 18

I am not saying anyone should be kept from doing what they want. I'm not saying people can't express themselves with a contest.

I'll repeat myself from post#14

Once again I'm not saying they shouldn't have a drawing contest.

Sam Eagle

Really res? Last time I checked we had this thing called freedom of speech in this country. Seems like christians, jews, Mormons, understand this and peacefully object to those that mock their religion. But the muzzies get all butt hurt and violent and can't take the criticism that other religions get. And by this they get people afraid to say anything.

And that's my point.

WNYResident
Why would this group do something so stupid to begin with?

[nogods]

Nogods,

Two different scenarios.

A marathon is not something Islamic followers find offensive or "not allowed" where as drawing images of Mohammed is not allowed.

Are you following me yet?


A marathon is a sporting event and the other was a drawing contest. Right? I am not saying people can not have drawing contest on any subject they want but they sure picked something to draw that they knew Islamic followers might react to.

That group holding that contest knew beforehand what they were doing was considered against Islamic law. A group holding a Marathon isn't holding an event that others would find offensive at least in the example you gave.

So what? The subject of the conference was a pretext - don't be so naive. Thos two wold have attacked some other target designed to bring them attention.

Every mall in the US is sellis that are against Islamic law - should they stop doing that because people might be at risk while in the mall? How about all the liquor stores? And any place selling lotto tickets? Should they close down because they are offensive to muslims and give rise to the risk of people being injured when some god idiot decides to blow them up?

God tells us in the Quran that intoxicants and gambling are abominations from Satan and orders us to avoid them. (Quran 5: 90)

http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/2229/

Stop trying to blame the victims of an attack for the attack.

[BorderBob]

Just because you have freedom of speech doesn't mean you have to talk.


b.b.

[WNYresident]

So what? The subject of the conference was a pretext - don't be so naive. Thos two wold have attacked some other target designed to bring them attention.

Every mall in the US is sellis that are against Islamic law - should they stop doing that because people might be at risk while in the mall? How about all the liquor stores? And any place selling lotto tickets? Should they close down because they are offensive to muslims and give rise to the risk of people being injured when some god idiot decides to blow them up?



http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/2229/

Stop trying to blame the victims of an attack for the attack.

So what?

Two different scenarios. Don't play stupid.

You can't assume thos two wold have attached some other target. The point is they attacked this target because the group was hold a draw Mohammed contest. They held that contest to bring attention to themselves based on the subject matter of the contest.

ONCE AGAIN I'm not saying they should not be allowed to do so. I'm just pointing out that was pretty stupid.

How many times have we heard of issues with people drawing Mohammed versus Islamic followers blowing up a liquor/lotto store?

In the last 10 years how many lotto stores were attacked by Islamic followers versus someone being attacked for drawing Mohammed?

[nogods]

So what?

Two different scenarios. Don't play stupid.

You can't assume thos two wold have attached some other target. The point is they attacked this target because the group was hold a draw Mohammed contest. They held that contest to bring attention to themselves based on the subject matter of the contest.

ONCE AGAIN I'm not saying they should not be allowed to do so. I'm just pointing out that was pretty stupid.

How many times have we heard of issues with people drawing Mohammed versus Islamic followers blowing up a liquor/lotto store?

In the last 10 years how many lotto stores were attacked by Islamic followers versus someone being attacked for drawing Mohammed?

You avoided the issues trying to make an inane point

First - is selling liquor or lotto tickets or running a casino "stupid" because some muslim will attack the "abominations from Satan"?

Second - you really think two guys hell bent on killing people would not have found some other target if there was no cartoon conference? You really think someone who would attempt to commit a terrorists style mass murder over people drawing cartoons of their sky daddy would end up being model citizens if no one drew those cartoons? Boy, you really are naive.

They weren't marching through a muslim neighborhood with posters and flags insulting muslims. they weren't even outside. One could only be offended by what was inside the building if they went the building. Those two terrorists attacked because of what they thought was going on behind closed doors. what next, islamic terrorist start attacking Canadian Ballet halls and you call the owners "stupid"?

[nogods]

Just because you have freedom of speech doesn't mean you have to talk.


b.b.

Just because I choose to speak, doesn't mean you have to listen.

And it is you, not me, that is responsible for your reaction to my speech. if you can't control yourself from engaging in a jihad based on what someone else says then perhaps you need to be on medication or under 24/7 treatment in a facility.

[WNYresident]

Well how many casino's have been attacked by Islamic followers compared to people who draw Mohammed. I'm just using examples of what we have seen in the past. Quick go google.

Eventually they might have attacked another group of people but you can't predict that will happen. I'm assuming you are all for profiling then? You must be if you are going to assume those Islamic followers were hell bent on killing people. If it wasn't going to be this drawing contest it would have been something else. Right?

You really think someone who would attempt to commit a terrorists style mass murder over people drawing cartoons

Well yes. Not long ago that magazine publisher over seas was attacked for drawings of Mohammed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_6429552.html

Apparently NPR thought of the possible issues with drawings of Mohammed.

NPR Decides Not to Post Any Mohammed Cartoons From Charlie Hebdo Magazine

Not long after 12 cartoonists and editors were murdered at the Paris office of the Charlie Hebdo magazine last Wednesday, news outlets around the world faced a difficult dilemma: produce images of satirical cartoons of Mohammed from the weekly publication and face the possibility of being attacked by other terrorists; or play it safe by using other pictures instead.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/randy-h....4Cjo7q6D.dpuf


Even other newspapers thought twice about publishing photos.

Some Newspapers and All Major American News Networks Decide Against Showing Charlie Hebdo’s Muhammad Cartoons

As news organizations reported on Wednesday's attack on Charlie Hebdo, many made a point of not showing the cartoons that apparently angered the gunmen who killed 12 people at the satirical newspaper's Paris offices. (Some Muslim traditions prohibit visual depictions of Prophet Muhammad, and the strictest interpretations of the religion's anti-idolatry laws ban images of people altogether.) A few places took it a step further by obscuring images of Charlie Hebdo's work.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...-cartoons.html

[WNYresident]

ISIS claim responsibility for shooting at Texas Muhammad cartoon contest

The Islamic State terror group (ISIS) Tuesday issued a claim of responsibility for Sunday's attack on a Texas cartoon contest featuring images of the Muslim prophet Muhammad.

The claim was made in an audio message on the group's Al Bayan radio station, based in the Syria city of Raqqa, which ISIS has proclaimed to be the capital of its self-proclaimed caliphate. It is the first time ISIS has taken credit for an attack on U.S. soil, though it was not immediately clear whether the group's claim was an opportunistic co-opting of a so-called "lone wolf" attack as its own.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/05...rtoon-contest/

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