Press Conference Thursday at 2pm Downtown

[Jim Ostrowski]

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

CONTACT:
James Ostrowski
(716) 435-8918
Free Buffalo
jameso@apollo3.com
http://www.freebuffalo.org
1535 Hertel Ave.
Buffalo, New York 14216


Free Buffalo Says Abolish the IDAs

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Comptroller’s Audit Proves IDAs Must be Abolished


Buffalo, New York. May 24 2006. Free Buffalo will release its study calling for the abolition of Industrial Development Agencies tomorrow, Thursday, May 25, at 2:00 p.m. in front of the Erie County Industrial Development Agency, 275 Oak Street
Buffalo, New York.

Jim Ostrowski, Free Buffalo’s President and author of the report said, “The Comptroller’s recent audits prove that the 36-year experiment with IDAs has been a failure. No one has or can prove their worth. Abolish them!”

Free Buffalo is the Erie County Chapter of Free New York, Inc., a non-profit, non-partisan New York State public policy research corporation. It has offices at 1535 Hertel Ave., Buffalo, New York, 14216.

Free New York is the research and policy arm of the Upstate tax revolt.

[buffy]

it is really ridiculous when u think about it...give companies corporate welfare to move here, have a state constitution that declares it will take care of all indigent persons w/i its borders, and keep raising taxes on its residents to pay for it all...how can businesses succeed when people are leaving and the ones who stay are fed up w/high taxes? Our state legislators are kidding themselves and Hevesi has the proof.

[WNYresident]

The system is going to try to bleed every possible penny out of the productive people until we get a governor who is for the taxpayer not the special interest groups with the hands out.

[therising]

Hopefully no one will ask semi-intelligent questions at the Press Conference, the way I did:

http://forums.speakupwny.com/showpos...9&postcount=23

[Jim Ostrowski]

The gist of the Comptroller's reports are that there's no proof that IDAs do any net good. They and their clients keep poor records so no one can tell.

Their problem, not ours.

[Jim Ostrowski]

See you there!

[Jim Ostrowski]

The press conference was a modest success--Channel 2, 970 and WBEN provided coverage.

Here's the published study--

http://freebuffalo.org/articles/news...No10--IDAS.pdf

I'm happy to say that once again Free Buffalo has "pushed the envelope" past "reform" and onto real change.

[woodstock]

OMG- from the report linked, the only thing i see being pushed is a shovel full of poop.

from the report: the very first part of cites a previous "study" titled “Public Authorities Have Failed the Public.” (aka "filler")

secondly, it is said:

The substance of these reports fully supports Free New York’s position that IDAs should be abolished.

"these reports fully supports Free New York’s position..." making it have a lib-spin.

third, you editorialized an agency to which will in no way produce a real change, sorry. i read the report and saw it as nothing more than "blowing sunshine" because from this quote in the report:

Abolishing IDAs could return nearly half a billion dollars to New Yorkers each year in the form of across-the-board tax cuts and other savings.

um, "could" is the keyword.

this part sounds very opinionated:

Their main effect
is to dampen support for generalized tax cuts among influential business leaders who might otherwise lead the charge for such cuts. IDAs are thus serving to prop up the stagnant status quo in New York’s political economy.

how about give an unbiased answer instead of just asking the question?

Would a private corporation suffer a failed division like the IDAs for 36 years?

sorry i didnt have the same educational advantages as JO, but from what i remember in highschool english class - when writing a report, there is no creditablitily when inserting an unanswered question. also, coulda, woulda, shoulda means opinion - no matter how many facts are presented. and something like "yourself" agrees skews the story to fit personal objection.

i remember too that when doing a "study" it has to be detailed of who, what, where, why, when & how - written as unbiased.

Now i ask the big question, where is the "real change" the FB/FN can produce?

(PS. say thank you woodstock for waiting to make a post untill after the press conference.)

BTW- i just wanna say that no one disagreed with this thread because they couldnt.

whew... my work is done for the day. HA! i will be strong-armed by rez for this post, im sure.

[WNYresident]

Woodstock
Now i ask the big question, where is the "real change" the FB/FN can produce?

No more or less than your type of "save the library group" or any other group. We'll work with the "save the library group" for now because it's easy to make a point.

Save the library group worked to leep the libraries open yet still had many close. Apparently they have just as much "real change" in them as does a group like Free buffalo or any other group yet you keep bringing your question up.

[woodstock]

No more or less than your type of "save the library group" or any other group. We'll work with the "save the library group" for now because it's easy to make a point.

Save the library group worked to leep the libraries open yet still had many close. Apparently they have just as much "real change" in them as does a group like Free buffalo or any other group yet you keep bringing your question up.

nice demonstration in how you said "we support all groups" - you only support groups you agree with. you used the libraries cuz you knew it would get to me, you used the libraries cuz no matter what i say you'll ignor it, you used it to put me down with cuz i dont like FB. "easy" yeah... it was easy for you alright!

in case you didnt know... ppl are working along the same philosophies as save our libraries to actually get city branches reopened. it happened in lovejoy, it happened in south buffalo... and (if im not mistaken) 4 more buffalo branches are looking to be reopened. that is accomplishment!

im not in a very good mood so dont mess with me.

[DelawareDistrict]

from what i remember in highschool english class - when writing a report, there is no creditablitily when inserting an unanswered question. also, coulda, woulda, shoulda means opinion - no matter how many facts are presented. and something like "yourself" agrees skews the story to fit personal objection.

It is called a rhetorical question.

Rhetorical Question

A question solely for effect, with no answer expected. By the implication that the answer is obvious, it is a means of achieving an emphasis stronger than a direct statement.

[woodstock]

A question solely for effect, with no answer expected. By the implication that the answer is obvious, it is a means of achieving an emphasis stronger than a direct statement.

making it not a complete study, but more an opinionated peice of literature that just happens to contains fact.... but not a "study" in the least bit.

i better get out of this thread before you find another whore related comparison question.

[DelawareDistrict]

making it not a complete study, but more an opinionated peice of literature that just happens to contains fact.... but not a "study" in the least bit.

i better get out of this thread before you find another whore related comparison question.

Let me try again, you completely missed the relevant part.

it is a means of achieving an emphasis stronger than a direct statement.

[woodstock]

ITS A SKEWED "STUDY" TO FIT FREE BLUFFALO'S PHILOSOPHIES!

quote me & question me, resort to whore analogies in comparison all you want, i wont reply.

[Jim Ostrowski]

Just want to let the readers know that a prior poster implied that when I wrote "these reports" that support Free Buffalo's position, I was referring to the Comptoller's reports, not our prior study on authorities.