NYSUT taken to task

[Lee Chowaniec]

http://www.buffalonews.com/opinion/b...santi-20141027

I imagine there are many New York State teachers who have been embarrassed by past and present actions taken by the New York State United Teachers (NYSUT) union in dealing with union contract negotiations and in the union’s participation in the political world for self serving purposes.

This is a bitter pill for anyone to swallow and the Buffalo News should be commended for their opinion report on the matter. This is as ugly as it gets. .

[gorja]

Personally, I don't know how anyone especially Republicans could support the flip-flopper Grisanti.
Unable to access the Buffalo News site with Google chrome or Internet explorer at the present time to read the article.

[Save Us]

Look what it costs to educate a child in NY. With New York's anemic economic growth we are just sending these kids out of state.

NYSUT can suck eggs!

[Wehner]

Traditionally UNION representation has been reactionary. Primarily a response to management conduct. By reading most basic contract language you can see a pattern of reaction to what most managers think is a god given right to control whether they be right or wrong. So put on your bifocals and read a union contract of your choice and as you read think about what occurred and what actions brought about this particular language. That's why they call it collective BARGAINING.

[Lee Chowaniec]

Personally, I don't know how anyone especially Republicans could support the flip-flopper Grisanti.
Unable to access the Buffalo News site with Google chrome or Internet explorer at the present time to read the article.

For whatever reason the Buffalo News web page is not available, so here is the report I saved. It has nothing to do about Grisanti’s credentials or campaign and focuses, on contract negotiations, etc, just NYSUT vileness.

And could it be that neither the DEMS or REPS want him because he will not swear allegiance to either party but votes his convictions? Perhaps he is a true independent and will do well in the election.


Teachers should be ashamed of unions unseemly efforts to unseat Grisanti

Politics can be a nasty business, especially during a hotly contested election season. So it’s no surprise, for example, that Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and his opponent, Westchester County Executive Rob Astorino, are trading nasty charges that often have only glancing connections to the truth.

Nevertheless, it is rare that Western New Yorkers are subjected to a campaign as vile and devious as the one leaving its trail in the three-way race to represent the 60th State Senate District. And driving the dishonest and distorted contest are New York’s school teachers, or, more specifically, New York State United Teachers, the largest of the state’s teachers unions.

Think of it: The organization representing the people who teach – and who act as role models for – millions of young New Yorkers is engaged in a flatly deceitful effort to mislead voters, to smear the incumbent and to do whatever it can to ensure that a lawbreaker is elected. Why? Because the union, which doesn’t much care for teacher evaluations, desperately wants Democrats to control the Senate and unseating Mark Grisanti is key to achieving that dubious goal.

That effort reached its nadir – thus far, anyway – with an ad in such horrifyingly bad taste that it should make everyone who sees it blanch. Indeed, that seems to be happening, with critics from all corners criticizing VOTE-COPE, the political arm of NYSUT, for producing it.

The ad shows an image of a severely battered woman and the words “Mark Grisanti won’t protect her from her abuser.” The issue centers on the 10-point Women’s Equality Agenda, whose 10th point, critics say, codifies late-term abortions. Grisanti supports the first nine points, but opposes the abortion provision and so has voted against the measure, which supporters will not break into separate parts.

VOTE-COPE is cheerily indifferent to the criticism. Its single-minded focus is to help deliver the Senate to Democrats, and apparently by any means possible, including the exploitation of abused women – some of whom are bound to be teachers – and also by setting out to hoodwink voters.

That was NYSUT’s strategy during the run-up to September’s primary election when it disingenuously ran television ads suggesting that Grisanti wasn’t conservative enough. The result was to deliver the Republican nomination to Kevin T. Stocker, a candidate who refuses to say what he stands for and who, if elected, is almost certain to alienate anyone he deals with.

The union’s strategy – successful, so far – was to encourage the election of a candidate so off-the-charts unappealing that voters in a largely Democratic district would elect whoever the Democrats’ nominee happened to be. That is Marc C. Panepinto, who was convicted of election fraud in 2001. Grisanti, who was left to run on the Independence Party line, has been endorsed by the editorial board of The News.

There is no law against bad intentions, bad taste or bad judgment. Thus, NYSUT is within its rights in its bid to deceive voters, to toy with the issue of domestic violence and to prefer as a senator either a Republican who is dramatically unsuited to the job or a Democrat who committed a fraud against the voters.

[4248]

Personally, I don't know how anyone especially Republicans could support the flip-flopper Grisanti.
Unable to access the Buffalo News site with Google chrome or Internet explorer at the present time to read the article.

Let me see if I get your point - Grisanti "flip flops" so you wont vote for him.

Cuomo is awaiting a indictment - lies to tax payers - tramples on our rights - attacks pension and negotiation rights of unions - he runs a campaign of false hoods and personal assassination - yet he's the better person/candidate for the position of Governer and maybe President .

[gorja]

Grisanti voted for Cuomo's SAFE act. Both Grisanti and Cuomo suck. They're not running for the same elective ofice.

[shortstuff]

Grisanti voted for Cuomo's SAFE act. Both Grisanti and Cuomo suck. They're not running for the same elective ofice.

Spot on gorja. I agree.

[nogods]

He voted against a bill that contain this provision:

9. Protect Victims of Domestic Violence by Strengthening Order-of-Protection Laws: Women face too many obstacles in securing protection from their abusers. Requiring victims of domestic violence victims seeking an order of protection to be in physical proximately to their abuser in court may be traumatic, unsafe, intimidating, and may ultimately influence testimony. This amendment will ensure that victims of domestic violence will be allowed to provide all required testimony by video-conference.

the ads seem to be accurate. How the hell is attacking a person who voted against that provision "the exploitation of abused women."

Voting against the domestic abuse provision to oppose abortion is "the exploitation of abused women" the BN got it wrong this time.

[gorja]

Your right, nogods. Grisanti is definitely not an advocate for victims of domestic violence

[NY The Vampire State]

He voted against a bill that contain this provision:



the ads seem to be accurate. How the hell is attacking a person who voted against that provision "the exploitation of abused women."

Voting against the domestic abuse provision to oppose abortion is "the exploitation of abused women" the BN got it wrong this time.

The original bill had 10 parts that weren't going to be broken up. If the creators of this bill wanted it so badly, why didn't they break it up and at least get 9 out of 10? Usually they won't break it up because there is some BS in the mix that is so unreasonable this is the only way to get it passed.

[nogods]

Your right, nogods. Grisanti is definitely not an advocate for victims of domestic violence

he might be an advocate for victims of domestic violence, but he has made it clear that domestic violence takes a backseat to his position on abortion. So I think the ad was arguably accurate.

His response should have been "I don't support the bill because abortion trumps domestic violence in my opinion" instead of the feigned indignation.

His strongest point is his political honesty. He blew it this time.








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[Lee Chowaniec]

How disingenuous to state that Grisanti is not an advocate for victims of domestic violence when the Buffalo News report clearly stated: Grisanti supports the first nine points, but opposes the abortion provision and so has voted against the measure, which supporters will not break into separate parts.

To show an ad with an image of a severely battered woman an claim Grisanti won’t protect her from an abuser crosses the line and was shown how tasteless and deceptive the ad is.

The focus of the report was on NYSUT in presenting this misleading and vile ad and some of you turned it around to give the ad credence and to give NYSUT a pass.

I don’t live in Mr. Grisanti’s district, will not vote for him for that reason, and therefore base my judgment on the vileness of the ad.

I hold little respect for NYSUT and would not hesitate to state that the great majority of teachers are shamed by this ‘horrifyingly bad taste’ political ad.

[gorja]

I don't watch TV, thus haven't seen any political ads. The NYSUT ad may have been crass. Ad or no ad, if I lived in that district, my vote would never have been for Grisanti. I would have had to take the chance on Stocker. Panepinto has been proved to have a less than ethical past. Why would Cuomo be considering endorsing RINO Grisanti? That alone would turn my vote against the Cuomo suck-up.

[Inquisitor]

Check out the John Cahill commercial seen here on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGVqfZeAvto
The "Friends of John Cahill" who produced and paid for the commercial that also portrays a battered woman / victim of domestic violence should also be reprimanded for their "vileness" and should be ashamed. Politics in NY

For whatever reason the Buffalo News web page is not available, so here is the report I saved. It has nothing to do about Grisanti’s credentials or campaign and focuses, on contract negotiations, etc, just NYSUT vileness.

And could it be that neither the DEMS or REPS want him because he will not swear allegiance to either party but votes his convictions? Perhaps he is a true independent and will do well in the election.


Teachers should be ashamed of unions unseemly efforts to unseat Grisanti

Politics can be a nasty business, especially during a hotly contested election season. So it’s no surprise, for example, that Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and his opponent, Westchester County Executive Rob Astorino, are trading nasty charges that often have only glancing connections to the truth.

Nevertheless, it is rare that Western New Yorkers are subjected to a campaign as vile and devious as the one leaving its trail in the three-way race to represent the 60th State Senate District. And driving the dishonest and distorted contest are New York’s school teachers, or, more specifically, New York State United Teachers, the largest of the state’s teachers unions.

Think of it: The organization representing the people who teach – and who act as role models for – millions of young New Yorkers is engaged in a flatly deceitful effort to mislead voters, to smear the incumbent and to do whatever it can to ensure that a lawbreaker is elected. Why? Because the union, which doesn’t much care for teacher evaluations, desperately wants Democrats to control the Senate and unseating Mark Grisanti is key to achieving that dubious goal.

That effort reached its nadir – thus far, anyway – with an ad in such horrifyingly bad taste that it should make everyone who sees it blanch. Indeed, that seems to be happening, with critics from all corners criticizing VOTE-COPE, the political arm of NYSUT, for producing it.

The ad shows an image of a severely battered woman and the words “Mark Grisanti won’t protect her from her abuser.” The issue centers on the 10-point Women’s Equality Agenda, whose 10th point, critics say, codifies late-term abortions. Grisanti supports the first nine points, but opposes the abortion provision and so has voted against the measure, which supporters will not break into separate parts.

VOTE-COPE is cheerily indifferent to the criticism. Its single-minded focus is to help deliver the Senate to Democrats, and apparently by any means possible, including the exploitation of abused women – some of whom are bound to be teachers – and also by setting out to hoodwink voters.

That was NYSUT’s strategy during the run-up to September’s primary election when it disingenuously ran television ads suggesting that Grisanti wasn’t conservative enough. The result was to deliver the Republican nomination to Kevin T. Stocker, a candidate who refuses to say what he stands for and who, if elected, is almost certain to alienate anyone he deals with.

The union’s strategy – successful, so far – was to encourage the election of a candidate so off-the-charts unappealing that voters in a largely Democratic district would elect whoever the Democrats’ nominee happened to be. That is Marc C. Panepinto, who was convicted of election fraud in 2001. Grisanti, who was left to run on the Independence Party line, has been endorsed by the editorial board of The News.

There is no law against bad intentions, bad taste or bad judgment. Thus, NYSUT is within its rights in its bid to deceive voters, to toy with the issue of domestic violence and to prefer as a senator either a Republican who is dramatically unsuited to the job or a Democrat who committed a fraud against the voters.