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    Lightbulb Election law$ and Money - what reports ???????!!!!!!!!!

    Just some "Campaign Money Highlights" provided by the Board of Elections. Are honest - complete disclosures being filed?
    Do all those people who donate to the Lancaster Democratic Committee or to Town Board Members truly aware of where their money goes?

    Would you as a "Campaign" donor want to pay for "Club Dues" , Magazines subscriptions, tickets for private "Political" events, donations in the Candidates name, charity donations in the candidates name?

    Friends of Lancaster Town Council Member Dan amatura Presently running for Highway Boss in Lancaster Primary.

    REPORTS FILED FOR FILING YEAR 2009
    No activety reported to Board of Elections
    32 day pre-primary report:No activety reported to Board of Elections
    Jan - Periodic report:No activety reported to Board of Elections
    July Periodic report:No activety reported to Board of Elections
    REPORTS FILED FOR FILING YEAR 2008
    January & July : No activity statement$
    REPORTS FILED FOR FILING YEAR 2007
    27 day general election: Click here



    LANCASTER DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE
    47 Lombardy St. (notice address)

    2009 January Periodic Report Summary Page


    Opening Balance -(negative)$12,318.89
    Contributions $.00
    Miscellaneous Receipts $.00
    Total Receipts $.00
    Total Expenses $678.90

    Closing Balance -(negative)$12,997.79
    Report Date 08/16/09 02:08:26

    LANCASTER DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE OUTSTANDING LIABILITIES/LOANS
    DATE NAME
    71 W. MELCORT DR.
    ADDRESS
    CHEEKTOWAGA
    CITY
    NY
    ST
    14225
    ZIP
    $10,000.00 JAN-15-09 03:20 PM
    RECORD DATE
    NO. of TRANSACTIONS TOTAL
    FRIENDS OF PAUL TOKASZ
    ORIGINAL PURPOSE
    CNTRB
    OUTSTANDING
    $7500
    TYPE
    P
    $7,500.00
    JANUARY PERIODIC (J)


    Now lets check back from time to time and see how and where the money goes!
    :cool:



    No tax funded patronage job, not running for Office , I speak for myself.
    When will voters out number tax funded employees at the polls?


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    Amatura violates election campaign rules -

    Reporting of Campaign funds and donations are covered in the Election Laws.

    Friends of Dan Amatura don't follow those rules or laws!


    C35696
    FRIENDS OF DAN AMATURA
    21 Burwell Ave.
    Lancaster NY 14086
    Status = ACTIVE

    THE FOLLOWING WAS FILED FOR THE 2009 32 DAY PRE PRIMARY REPORT

    A "No Activity Statement" was filed with the State Board of Elections for this period.

    Click this line to go direct : JANUARY PERIODIC REPORT
    Click this line to go direct : JULY PERIODIC REPORT

    C35697
    DANIEL J. AMATURA

    Status = ACTIVE
    Authorized Committee = FRIENDS OF DAN AMATURA
    Authorized Committee ID =
    C35696

    There is no itemized financial disclosure data contained in the NYS Board of Elections Financial Disclosure Database for this Candidate or Committee.


    If one wish to harp on integrity and honesty - wheres his reports - why is he hiding who supports him.

    This will be their spin: We are new at this game, our staff didn't realize it was needed, Mr.Amatura assumed it was done, we will correct it later.

    First they launch a bogus assault on Highway Superintendent Richard Reese - then they slander him in the Bee tabloid (Paid for with tax dollars).

    They then ignore Election law and not file legal documents when supposed to.

    Typical Lancaster Controlling Member tactics.

    Lancaster's Democratic Voters hold the key - support a corrupt Committee or send a message - Re-Elect the only working elected official in Lancaster Richard Reese - or elect another developer friendly party clone!

    Primary Day - Its your choice.




    No tax funded patronage job, not running for Office , I speak for myself.
    When will voters out number tax funded employees at the polls?


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    is he maybe running all his finances through the demoncratic committee this year? He can only file a no activity report if there's no fundraising activity. If he's running all his money through the Lancaster demoncrats than he's not doing anything wrong, is he?
    The town board creates the problems and when the residents complain, the town board tells them it's the resident's fault.

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    It would be nice to know who his supporters are prior to primary.

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    Lightbulb Doesn't appear they are

    Quote Originally Posted by Wag View Post
    is he maybe running all his finances through the demoncratic committee this year? He can only file a no activity report if there's no fundraising activity. If he's running all his money through the Lancaster demoncrats than he's not doing anything wrong, is he?
    Even if he's supporting himself - reports are due. Unless he has had no fundraisers - no donations - some unknown person paid for signs - some unknown person paid for campaign materials - some ones not complying with the laws.

    As far as running money through the Lancaster Democratic Committee - supposedly they are broke -

    LANCASTER DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE
    2009 January Periodic Report Summary Page




    Opening Balance--Minus-$12,318.89
    Contributions$.00
    Miscellaneous Receipts$.00
    Total Receipts$.00
    Total Expenses$678.90

    Closing BalanceMinus $12,997.79
    Report Date 08/31/09 08:08:25
    __________________________________________________ _______________



    FRIENDS OF DONNA STEMPNIAK



    2009 January Periodic Report Summary Page



    Opening Balance-Minus $1,237.61
    Contributions$.00
    Miscellaneous Receipts$.00
    Total Receipts$.00
    Total Expenses$220.00

    Closing Balance-Minus $1,457.61
    Report Date 08/31/09 08:08:20

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    As far as Supervisor Bob Giza - he continues using Campaign Donors money to make himself look good.


    NYS BOARD OF ELECTIONS FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE REPORT
    AUG-31-09 08:14 PM Page 1
    Filer ID: C28782 2008 J SCHEDULE: F
    FRIENDS OF ROBERT H. GIZA



    LEN JANKIEWICZ Print AD IN FOOTBALL
    $75.00


    BOY SCOUT OF AMERICA
    PRINT AD$70.00

    LANCASTER OPERA House Fundraiser $75.00

    Lancaster Democratic Committee $150.00

    PULASKI POLICE ASSC $100.00

    THOMAS KAZMIEREK $15.00

    TIMOTHY DWAN SCHOLARSHIP $40.00

    LANC LIONS CLUB $75.00
    __________________________________________________ ____________________________________

    No where could be found anything relating to them taking in money for Mr.Amatura or donating anything to him. Last filing dates AUG-31-09


    No tax funded patronage job, not running for Office , I speak for myself.
    When will voters out number tax funded employees at the polls?


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    Who is supposed to file disclosures

    Information below is from the NYS Board of Elections - for more info CLICK HERE

    Candidates are obligated to file campaign financial disclosures unless they have an authorized committee which has registered with the Board of Elections and the candidate is not going to raise or spend money themselves, except through their authorized committee.

    In this case, the candidate must only file a form CF-16 (Candidate's Authorization for a Committee to make Campaign Financial Disclosures). This statement names the candidate's authorized committee that will file the financial disclosure statements on the candidate's behalf.

    The committee must file the form CF-02 (Committee Registration/Treasurer and Bank Information) and CF-03 (Committee Authorization Status).

    If the named treasurer does not file these documents (CF-02 & CF-03) which indicate that he/she has accepted the responsibility for filing the financial reports, then that responsibility remains with the candidate.

    Candidates who run their own campaigns (without a committee) and Candidates with an authorized committee who raise and spend monies outside of their committee, are required to file either In-Lieu-Of, Itemized or No-Activity Financial Disclosure Statements.

    Me thinks there is some overdue paperwork - why is he hiding who supports him? The Property on William St. - where his big sign is located, belongs to Lancaster's largest developer.

    I have a line on some of Mr.A's friends - he's got some history!
    No tax funded patronage job, not running for Office , I speak for myself.
    When will voters out number tax funded employees at the polls?


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    who is that?

    Quote Originally Posted by 4248 View Post
    Information below is from the NYS Board of Elections - for more info CLICK HERE

    Candidates are obligated to file campaign financial disclosures unless they have an authorized committee which has registered with the Board of Elections and the candidate is not going to raise or spend money themselves, except through their authorized committee.

    In this case, the candidate must only file a form CF-16 (Candidate's Authorization for a Committee to make Campaign Financial Disclosures). This statement names the candidate's authorized committee that will file the financial disclosure statements on the candidate's behalf.

    The committee must file the form CF-02 (Committee Registration/Treasurer and Bank Information) and CF-03 (Committee Authorization Status).

    If the named treasurer does not file these documents (CF-02 & CF-03) which indicate that he/she has accepted the responsibility for filing the financial reports, then that responsibility remains with the candidate.

    Candidates who run their own campaigns (without a committee) and Candidates with an authorized committee who raise and spend monies outside of their committee, are required to file either In-Lieu-Of, Itemized or No-Activity Financial Disclosure Statements.

    Me thinks there is some overdue paperwork - why is he hiding who supports him? The Property on William St. - where his big sign is located, belongs to Lancaster's largest developer.

    I have a line on some of Mr.A's friends - he's got some history!
    the developer?

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    I happened to pass by the vacant house yesterday and looked for an address. the numbers are either gone or I couldn't see them. it's the last house standing between flix and the drug store.
    The town board creates the problems and when the residents complain, the town board tells them it's the resident's fault.

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    Originally posted by 4248:
    Me thinks there is some overdue paperwork - why is he hiding who supports him? The Property on William St. - where his big sign is located, belongs to Lancaster's largest developer.
    The last 2 houses on the south side of William St before Transit Rd -
    4733 & 4737 belong to S K DEVELOPMENT OF WNY. They paid $370,000 for 4733 William which is assessed at $100,000 and paid $160,000 for 4737 William which is assessed at $92,000.

    I've never heard of them before. Do they go by another name??


    Yes, there are FOUR on the town board

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    So do they pay property taxes at the amount they paid for the property?
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    Lancaster's Political smoke and mirrors

    Heres another fine example of who's sticking what to who?

    This is a favorite trick played over and over.

    The Developer/Investor : paid $370,000 for 4733 William St. - he pays that much because it has "Commercial Value" - not to the past home owner - but to him - lets say the developer owns property around that house - or he already has commercial interests at that property adjoining it.

    He knows whats coming next - he buys the property as Residential - he leaves it vacant - it then becomes a tax right off because of lost potential income - he also gets the added benefit of a lower assessed value($100,000.00) because his friend in the assessors office may not have seen the sale listed - so he pays the lower taxes

    Now heres another part of that game - they let the property rot - it then becomes an eye sore - WHY would they do that? Well maybe to effectively use that parcel - it needs some rezones - well the Town Board acts like by granting re-rezones that they wouldn't normally (I have never seen one) and to help relieve the neighborhood of this eye sore - the Town Approves another marginal use, incorrectly rezoned property. Including the rezone from residential(less taxes) to commercial (higher value - more taxes - but not if used for a road.) and the investor/contributor makes a killing.

    Now, if that property becomes a "access road" - the tax payers end up paying to ploy and maintain it in the long run - BINGO!

    Same game : Investor/Contributor paid $160,000 for 4737 William which is assessed at $92,000. -

    But, as we all know - the Town Board will deny any connection between themselves, the assessors mistakes and the coincidence that a favored developer/contributor owns the property or will benefit from it.

    As the Judge said, "It ain't illegal - just bad Government."
    No tax funded patronage job, not running for Office , I speak for myself.
    When will voters out number tax funded employees at the polls?


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    According to Lancasters assessments

    4737 William Investor/Contributor paid $160,000
    Total Assessed Value
    $92,000
    Land Assessed Value
    $17,400
    Property Type
    210 - 1 Family Res
    Lot Size
    84.15 x 150
    Mailing Address 1
    6523 S TRANSIT RD
    Mailing Address 2
    Mailing City, State
    LOCKPORT, NY


    4733 William St.The Developer/Investor : paid $370,000
    Square Footage
    2,364
    Total Assessed Value
    $100,000
    Land Assessed Value
    $40,700
    Property Type
    210 - 1 Family Res
    Lot Size
    172.88 x 284.66
    Mailing Address 1
    6523 S TRANSIT RD
    Mailing Address 2
    Mailing City, State
    LOCKPORT, NY
    Mailing Zip Code
    14095

    Last edited by 4248; September 2nd, 2009 at 06:35 PM.
    No tax funded patronage job, not running for Office , I speak for myself.
    When will voters out number tax funded employees at the polls?


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