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    Hart and Hanley up to same old tricks

    Highway Supt. English proposed at last Town Board Meeting to hire the next senior part time worker to a full time opening in the town Highway Dept. This individual has a good work record and meets all the
    requirements,and was next in line for full time status.Hanley with Harts second proposed changing the
    Highway Supt. proposal for someone of their own,who has less than one year as a part time employee and
    ranks 6th on the list. When English asked Hanley why he was not going by seniority Hanley stated,"that is.
    Who I want " By the way the individual Hanley and Hart want to hire happens to be McPharlene's wife's
    brother ! Hanley's campaign motto, ( Time for a change appears to be Politics as Usual ) The motion was
    tabled until the next board meeting.

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    By the way the individual Hanley and Hart want to hire happens to be McPharlene's wife's
    brother !
    I'm going out on a limb here but the person who meets all the requirements along with more experience is not related to the family?

    Which political party do Hanley and Harts support?

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    Exclamation "Winner Take all Game"

    All to often this is part of the "Winner Take all Game" - these people believe if they win an election they can do as they please.

    Wheres the Union in all this or are they "Party Influenced" as well ?

    When a Politician says, "Time for a change or Vote for a Change" - that usually means "Time to oust their Parties Friends and Family Members and put ours in" - voters accept this as a "Perk" of winning.

    They/voters seem to approve of jobs based on who gets the petitions signed - who donates to the committee - who puts up and takes down campaign signs.

    Many times a insider has a family member who cant pass normal entrance tests for a civil service position - either for physical reasons or low test scores.

    Many times what they do is slide them in as "Part Time or provisional" -

    Like this person "who has less than one year as a part time employee and ranks 6th on the list" - they excuse the first appointment by saying (in some cases) "Oh its just part time - low pay - no real benefits" - next thing you know they are being promoted from within which in many cases doesn't include the normal testing our seniority movements.

    They are usurping Union Contracts and Civil Service testing(If applicable) - all to often the Union Reps are Party Boys so they go along with these slides. The Department Heads are usually also "Party Players" so they have a vested interest in approving these moves if they to want "Party Support" for future elections.

    This has to change - Parties must stop looking at elections as "Winner take all Games" - voters/taxpayers must stop voting strictly by Party Lines - its your choice - change it - or write the check/taxes.
    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    I'm going out on a limb here but the person who meets all the requirements along with more experience is not related to the family?

    Which political party do Hanley and Harts support?
    Hanley is a D and Hart is a D that ran on the R line.
    “We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.” ― Thomas Jefferson

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    English's proposal to the Highway position has 4yrs. as a part time worker, Hanley and Hart 's 4 months. Where's the incentive for the remaining part time workers in West Seneca knowing your performance will not dictate promotion to full time employment, but being related to a politician will

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    The "Part time" scam is another shell game played by Politicians and Department Heads to fool tax payers.

    The same hiring game is involved - for the most part its patronage. What it does is block out a job opportunity - by usurping open hiring practices.

    If a job position was open - that information should be posted for public application.

    What's done instead is mostly friends and family members are plugged in. Seasonal and part timers receive hiring preferences over others. This is the earliest part of "Party Favors" being taught to younger members.

    They and their families feel beholden to the "Politician or Party" they feel facilitated these jobs. Not to the home owning tax payer who funds them!

    They learn fast that if you "support" the right party - you get a tax funded job and possibly a tax funded career.

    There needs to be limits on how many years a person can work part time or seasonal - this opens it up for other residents.

    Another part of this same scam is the Politicians/Department Bosses say, "We hired this guy/gal because they have experience" - well as we see here - that experience was a gift not through actual education or job training.

    These people go in as Patronage hires - don't do as much work as others not so well connected and prove them selves through "Party Favors"

    Often they help put up campaign signs - hand out Political fliers - attend Political fund raisers and so on.

    Time to flush out these games and there players - make it public - publish it here and on other sites.

    Exspose the Players !
    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOMETHING SMELLS View Post
    Highway Supt. English proposed at last Town Board Meeting to hire the next senior part time worker to a full time opening in the town Highway Dept. This individual has a good work record and meets all the
    requirements,and was next in line for full time status.Hanley with Harts second proposed changing the
    Highway Supt. proposal for someone of their own,who has less than one year as a part time employee and
    ranks 6th on the list. When English asked Hanley why he was not going by seniority Hanley stated,"that is.
    Who I want " By the way the individual Hanley and Hart want to hire happens to be McPharlene's wife's
    brother ! Hanley's campaign motto, ( Time for a change appears to be Politics as Usual ) The motion was
    tabled until the next board meeting.
    There may be a violation of the Rule of 3 here: http://www.cs.ny.gov/jobseeker/faq/s...theruleofthree
    “We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.” ― Thomas Jefferson

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    "When English asked Hanley why he was not going by seniority Hanley stated,"that is.
    Who I want "
    By the way the individual Hanley and Hart want to hire happens to be McPharlene's wife's
    brother ! Hanley's campaign motto, ( Time for a change appears to be Politics as Usual ) The motion was
    tabled until the next board meeting."

    Look, they tabled it because so much info surfaced about who - what - and why ! Normally this would have passed through without much attention due to lack of public insight/information.

    The good thing so far is starting this thread and others helps expose these games and they don't like it.

    These "Tax Funded Employment Games" are happening any where Politicians are in control of spending tax dollars. It needs to end.

    The water authority is said to be "creating" a new position for a Committee/politician - not because its needed - because they need to rearrange Lancaster's Political power structure.

    Make it Public - many people have given up on the Bufnews - but they have a hard time ignoring letters sent in by the public - Make it
    public !
    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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    Rule of three may work for the County hall and City hall jobs but not often for towns. No one polices the towns but the town itself. City hall and County hall have the Unions, Human Services and Personnel Departments policing the hiring when they choose to do so. If you are a new hire with no political connection you better keep your eyes open and know the rankings on your civil service test. One reason why people jump aboard a polical party is they need help finding a civil service job. Thus the family and friends hiring that goes on. Look at Meegan and Hart and their family and friends hirings, and they are just small potatoes. The people with more power will just make up an appointed job where there is no test needed. Remember Joel Giambra and his family? His brother in law was appointed head of the motor vehicle fleet and he had found jobs for over 20 family and friends and actually made the news because of it. Heres a simple way Towns get around it since there is no "mail reciept" requierment. Two years ago a friend of mine noticed that he wasn't called in for a interview for a civil test he took in Hamburg. He knew the list order and he had a 85 score and the person hired had a 75 score. He contacted the Town of Hamburg and said he was never solicited for the job. The Town said "lets see yes our list says we mailed you something, sorry." Case Closed. Even if you get a good Lawyer and fight it, what are you going to get a interview out of it? And there is no penalty or fine for the Town. Many Towns are run like organized crime syndicates and your kidding yourself if you think otherwise. I'm not saying all Civil Service jobs are "who they want" by no means, but when the people with power want something they try to make it happen.
    "When English asked Hanley why he was not going by seniority Hanley stated,"that is.
    Who I want

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    Last night's Town Board Meeting retired into Executive Session to discuss the hiring of Mr. Dyson over Mr. Slowminski. Why. would you need to hide behind closed doors when hiring a Highway laborer? In attendance at this meeting were 15 part time workers, along with the family of Mr. Slominski. Mr. English condemned the decision of Mr. Hanley and Hart stating, This was the first time in 6 years the senior man who meets all the qualifications was passes over for political reasons. Mr. Hanley you are right part time employees have no seniority, but someone who has worked 3 years through 3 winters lifting garbage through snow and rain should rate higher than someone who has 6 months on the job and not seen 1 winter Part time employees are residents of the Town and should be treated with respect. I believe it is time you put your political agenda behind you and hire individuals who are best qualified to do the work
    I believe by passing over Mr. Slominski with 3 years experience ( 1st on the hiring list) to hire Mr. Dyson with 6 months ( 6th on the list) sends a message to all part time employees now and in the future. It does not matter how long or hard you work for the town It Is Who You Know

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    This is the "Winner take all system" that people have supported - voters need to stand up and break the Party Line strangle hold.

    Its truly impressive that all those part timers and residents showed up - BRAVO !

    Lets hope the Bufnews picks up and reports honestly on this situation . Maybe you guys could encourage people to write the news's opinion section and express their feelings. These are the things others need to read - it helps educate and validate what many suspect.

    Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a new result - well you get the point ! STAND !
    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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    The problem with WS politics is that everyone was born, raised, and never left here. Everybody knows everyone, and alliances run deep. So expecting much to change in these matters is purely wishful
    thinking. Regardless of the ass in the chair, the story remains the same.
    I'd rather be hated for who I am... than loved for who I'm not!

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    This happens because you have one political party who has control, correct?

    Look at Cheektowaga. If you notice the board members do change out occasionally but the issue is the board members all come from the same well. IE: The Cheektowaga Democratic Party which is in full support of the www.ecdems.com. You know, the group that supported and gave us President Obama, "Don't investigate my friends" Governor Andrew Cuomo. and others.

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    Power in numbers

    If tax paying voters are seemingly out numbered by tax paid voters - education is your answer. You need those opposed to patronage and wasteful spending to educate others.

    Parties are too busy fighting for control of your tax dollars - usually by controlling jobs and appointments. If you don't have people in those committees you can trust and communicate with - it makes it harder but not impossible. Committees run on donations - donations from voters - from those seeking favors.

    If you can affect their wallets - you can get their ear. You can inform others and ask them to simply not to donate to candidates or their Party Committees. Why send them money when most of them get tax funded paychecks already ?

    Writing letters to local papers helps as well - expose the patronage in the opinion columns. Expose tax funded job appointments. The Bufnews and others wont do it for you.

    The more you bring this to light the more you educate others. People do care - their just afraid to stand out !
    #Dems play musical chairs + patronage and nepotism = entitlement !

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    It appears Mr. Hart saw the light during the last meeting and Mr. Slominski was appointed: http://westseneca.net/sites/default/...0918124137.pdf
    “We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.” ― Thomas Jefferson

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