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    Another attack on private property rights by the feds

    Below is a full explanation of this debauchery (analyzed by Clint Hinman). To make a long story short, the government has decided that you cannot sell your house on your own terms without a government license. They left a gaping loophole, but it's unfortunate that a seller should incur additional attorney fees to take advantage of the loophole.

    Sorry in advance for the long post.

    Full text of the bill:
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1728

    From a real estate investor newsletter I subscribe to:

    Clint Hinman, editor of NoteWorthy Newsletter, has done a great
    job of explaining H.R. 1728:

    HR 1728 - WHAT IT SAYS AND WHY IT WILL HURT CONSUMERS AND SMALL
    BUSINESS
    The U.S. Senate will soon be considering a bill that will severely
    restrict the property rights of millions of Americans and the way
    you do business going forward.

    WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?

    HR 1728 was recently passed by the House of Representatives with
    little fanfare and even less press coverage. Not until it was
    referred to the Senate did it grow legs and start getting the
    attention of everyone it will affect. The full text and status of
    the bill is here: http://snipurl.com/hr1728

    WHAT DOES IT SAY?

    The proposed legislation focuses upon the predatory lending practices
    of yesteryear and the resulting subprime debacle, imposing stringent
    requirements on mortgage brokers, servicers, appraisers, etc.
    Unfortunately, owner financing gets caught up in the dragnet, and the
    impact could be devastating. The offending text of the bill is in
    section 101(3)(e), which defines who is exempt from being a
    'licensed mortgage originator':

    '(E) does not include, with respect to a residential mortgage loan,
    a person, estate, or trust that provides mortgage financing for the
    sale of 1 property in any 36-month period, provided that such loan--
    (i) is fully amortizing;
    (ii) is with respect to a sale for which the seller determines in
    good faith and documents that the buyer has a reasonable ability to
    repay the loan;
    (iii) has a fixed rate or an adjustable rate that is adjustable after
    5 or more years, subject to reasonable annual and lifetime
    limitations
    on interest rate increases; and
    (iv) meets any other criteria the Federal banking agencies may
    prescribe.

    WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

    As long as you provide owner financing on the sale of your property
    no more than one time every three years, you will not be in violation
    of the statute. Any individual who does sell more than one property
    every three years via owner financing will be in violation unless
    they are a 'licensed mortgage originator'. State laws vary, but
    typically a 'licensed mortgage originator' must have a $25,000 to
    $50,000 surety bond, three years mortgage origination experience, a
    physical business office in the state in which the property is
    located, and continuing education requirements. In other words, very
    few, if any, Mom & Pop sellers will ever jump through the hoops to
    become a 'licensed mortgage originator'.

    WHAT KINDS OF TRANSACTIONS WILL BE COVERED?

    Selling your own home using a land contract or owner-held mortgage
    with the intent of getting a faster sale, a higher sales price, or
    higher rate of interest than is available in other investments will
    no longer be an option (unless that sale is limited to once every
    three years). Carrying back second mortgages on investment
    properties you sell will also be a violation of the law. In fact,
    any kind of installment sale on residential properties (including
    houses, condos, mobile homes, and residential land lots more than
    once every three years will be subject to this legislation.

    The original bill presented to the House didn't make any exceptions
    to owner financing. The National Association of Realtors argued to
    include the exception of one owner financed property every three
    years. Without addressing owner financing, many in the House
    contended owner financing would become the 'loophole' for
    predatory lenders to continue their exploitative ways.

    WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?

    Owner financed notes are not loans. There is no transfer of money,
    no points or closing costs, and no mortgage brokers involved. They
    are not created with the intent of selling them off to
    government-sponsored entities like Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, or FHA.
    They are INSTALLMENT SALES. The borrower receives no money that must
    be repaid, only a property on which periodic (read: installment)
    payments must be made.

    Just as egregious is the loss of private property rights. The
    government should have no power to legislate how property owners
    dispense of their properties. If a property owner is willing to
    finance the sale of a property to a buyer, whom is the government
    trying to protect by making the transaction illegal? States already
    have usury laws and servicing requirements that protect the
    purchasers.

    If passed by the Senate, this legislation will:

    1. Severely limit the number of property owners who can legally
    owner finance the sale of their properties.

    2. Make violators out of everyday Americans who, unaware they
    are breaking the law, are merely trying to sell their properties
    and/or offering financing to prospective homeowners who cannot obtain
    conventional financing.

    3. Require obscene amounts of due diligence on the part of note
    investors to make sure all facets of this legislation have been
    complied with.

    4. Give prospective homeowners even fewer options to realize the
    American Dream of homeownership.

    5. Cost the U.S. taxpayers over $400 million dollars to enforce.

    WHAT CAN I DO?

    Contact your senator via phone, fax, e-mail or snail mail. Implore
    them to vote NO on the bill as it's currently written. You can get
    your senator's contact information here. We have included some
    sample letters assembled by Vena Cox-Jones that will assist you in
    knowing what to say and how to say it. Additionally, we at
    NoteWorthy have written a fourth letter for owner financed note
    brokers.

    Please keep in mind that our best plan of action is to address how
    this legislation will hurt 'the little guy', i.e. buyers and
    sellers of properties. Even though we all consider ourselves 'the
    little guy', the government has made it clear that anyone
    associated with mortgages is 'the bad guy', and has little
    interest in how this bill may affect your business, your family, or
    your livelihood. Be civil, cordial, and intelligent in your
    communications with your senators' offices. Remember you can catch
    more flies with honey than with vinegar.
    Most of all I like bulldozers and dirt

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    Liberals sit in the dark at night wondering what little corners of liberty remain in American life and how they can be obliterated.

    Wake up people.

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    It's obvious that this atrocious bill will make it more expensive to get a loan, will increase the time it takes to get a loan and will reduce the number of people able to get a loan, all while creating yet another government agency and generating an enormous quality of new lawsuits.

    Great, just what we need.

    Regulations are taxes on non-monetary wealth.

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    my god.....

    What is going to be left of America in 50 years?
    The truth from a troll is still the truth.

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    This line really gets my goat:

    The National Association of Realtors argued to
    include the exception of one owner financed property every three
    years.
    Instead of spending the almost unlimited resources available to them to defeat the bill entirely they chose to succumb to the minority dues payers (mortgage brokers and RE attorneys). This is very similar to their total lack of opinion and ultimate acceptance of the appraiser's lobby to eliminate BPOs.
    Most of all I like bulldozers and dirt

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    are we going to have ANY rights or independence in 10-20 years, or will big brother make every decision for us?
    The truth from a troll is still the truth.

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    That's the idea.

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    So instead of getting rid of the Clinton era CRA they're going to try their way of fixing it. Boy Washington has to be the dumbest group of people ever!
    "I know you guys enjoy reading my stuff because it all makes sense. "

    Dumbest post ever! Thanks for the laugh PO!

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    Government creates its own demand.

    One intervention leads to the next.

    They can never admit that the initial intervention failed because that would be conceding that liberalism is a failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trolls_r_us View Post
    are we going to have ANY rights or independence in 10-20 years, or will big brother make every decision for us?
    We won't have many rights left in 4-8 years from now.

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