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    Police shoot, kill two dogs during raid

    A South Buffalo family wants answers after police shot and killed two of their dogs during a raid Saturday, leaving blood puddled on a living-room carpet and speckled on the wall.

    Police, who were looking for a drug suspect and narcotics, left the Indian Church Road home without finding any evidence or arresting anyone, according to residents of the house.

    The incident has left the family distraught and angry over the loss of the dogs, Essy and Moosey.

    “It was just the most traumatizing, horrible thing,” said Rita M. Patterson, 27, who lives in the house with her 68-year-old father, Daniel J. Patterson.

    Rita Patterson’s boyfriend, William F. Hanavan, 32, paroled last year after serving eight months in prison on a drug charge, was home but was not taken into custody Saturday.
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    This is crap, one of the dogs was cowering under a table when they shot it, SUE THE CITY for wrongful death!
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    Dumbest post ever! Thanks for the laugh PO!

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    How long are we going to let these paramilitary raids go on? I can understand the need to do so in an actual emergency, but it has become abundantly clear that these cowboy tactics and SWAT teams are ridiculously overused.

    The police spokesperson defended these shenanigans by saying that search warrants can be life and death situations. I say they needn't be life or death situations if they are handled appropriately and the cops didn't discharge shotguns repeatedly in a residential area.

    Again, the police wonder why so many "civilians" are distrustful of them. Perhaps it is because we see garbage like this in the newspapers all too often.

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    Cops shooting dogs is no surprise to me (I do read a lot of stories about raids).

    The question you might want to ask is "why do the cops shoot the pets during a raid"? I will admit a few times it is because the cop was in danger of being attacked, but most of the time I see it as a way to try and get the pets owner to fly off the handle and then the cops would then think they have justification to attack the pet owner and probably more charges to pile on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoreOfTheSame View Post
    How long are we going to let these paramilitary raids go on? I can understand the need to do so in an actual emergency, but it has become abundantly clear that these cowboy tactics and SWAT teams are ridiculously overused.

    The police spokesperson defended these shenanigans by saying that search warrants can be life and death situations. I say they needn't be life or death situations if they are handled appropriately and the cops didn't discharge shotguns repeatedly in a residential area.

    Again, the police wonder why so many "civilians" are distrustful of them. Perhaps it is because we see garbage like this in the newspapers all too often.
    police do what they have to to protect themselves. if they feel the dogs are a threat to them, they protect themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tree_hugger29 View Post
    police do what they have to to protect themselves. if they feel the dogs are a threat to them, they protect themselves.
    Why did they get a no-knock warrant on the advice of an informant? If the situation was so dire that they needed a SWAT Team then why was there no drugs found, no evidence seized and nobody arrested?

    Please explain how this couldn't have been handled with a simple knock on the door and asking the owners to put the dogs away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tree_hugger29 View Post
    police do what they have to to protect themselves. if they feel the dogs are a threat to them, they protect themselves.

    Please read the WHOLE ARTICAL, one of the dogs was cowering UNDER A TABLE, yeah he was going harm a cop

    I hope the cops break down your door abuse you for no reason, kill your animals and then leave!
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    Dumbest post ever! Thanks for the laugh PO!

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    Are you people serious? Drug dealers in your neighborhood...cops do nothing there is outrage! Drug dealers n your neighborhood...cops do somthing about it, outrage!
    These scumbags kept dogs in a horrible enviroment but lets blame the cops...
    Cops probably did these poor animals a favor!
    During a "raid" I dont see how a SWAT guy can safely assume a dog is friendly or not. Lets face it, most drug dealers have dogs for 1 reason people. Most SWAT teams are not going to put their guys in danger trying to determine if a DRUG DEALERS dog is going to give them puppy kisses or bite their sac off! There could be armed suspects anywhere, the safest thing for everybody is to take out the dogs. This way they are not a distraction so a bad guy or a cop does not get hurt. After all, this is all done in about 30 seconds.
    Its much more complicated then a cop goes into a house and shoots the "family pet".
    Im a dog lover and think the owners of the dogs should be charged in their deaths! They are the ones who put the dogs in harms way.
    Ive raised and worked with pitt bull rescue organizations...I know what most drug dealers keep these beutiful animals for...Its a shame, I understand this. I see no other option for these SWAT teams. Unless you dont mind drug dealers being able to freely sell drugs in the privacy of their own home, next to yours...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougles View Post
    Please read the WHOLE ARTICAL, one of the dogs was cowering UNDER A TABLE, yeah he was going harm a cop

    I hope the cops break down your door abuse you for no reason, kill your animals and then leave!
    This according to the 27 yr old who was dating a drug dealer...and now seeking a lawyer....Im positive the dog was "cowering UNDER A TABLE" cos she said so....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougles View Post
    Please read the WHOLE ARTICAL, one of the dogs was cowering UNDER A TABLE, yeah he was going harm a cop

    I hope the cops break down your door abuse you for no reason, kill your animals and then leave!
    You know, we keep hearing about how police work is so horribly dangerous but all the dangers appear to be if you are on the wrong side of the badge. Seriously. All this talk about how the police officers lives' are on the line every day appears to be a bunch of BS. If it was the case you'd figure their jobs would be on the list of most dangerous American professions. But it's not.

    Since Fisherman seem to have a harder time at it than cops maybe they should be allowed to randomly kick people's doors in and then discharge loaded weapons inside a home?

    1. Fisherman
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    4. Iron & Steel workers
    5. Refuse & Recycling collectors
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    7. Electric line installation and repair people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougles View Post
    Please read the WHOLE ARTICAL, one of the dogs was cowering UNDER A TABLE, yeah he was going harm a cop

    I hope the cops break down your door abuse you for no reason, kill your animals and then leave!
    my house is not a drug house. sick bastard you are for saying what you said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tree_hugger29 View Post
    my house is not a drug house. sick bastard you are for saying what you said.

    So this guy was on probation so he's automatically guilty? As a flaming liberal don't you strongly believe in a second chance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOOLBAGS View Post
    Are you people serious? Drug dealers in your neighborhood...cops do nothing there is outrage! Drug dealers n your neighborhood...cops do somthing about it, outrage!
    We expect the police to be somewhat professional. What good does it do if they raid the wrong house in a drug filled neighborhood? Nothing.

    Their intelligence is obviously BS if they ended the raid without an arrest or seizure of evidence. Wouldn't you agree?

    These scumbags kept dogs in a horrible enviroment but lets blame the cops...
    Cops probably did these poor animals a favor!
    The picture of the inside of the house doesn't look that bad.

    During a "raid" I dont see how a SWAT guy can safely assume a dog is friendly or not. Lets face it, most drug dealers have dogs for 1 reason people.
    So everybody with a dog is a potential drug dealer? Would a cop be justified in shooting a dog that is hiding underneath a table, or shooting a dog in the back as it is running away in this case?

    Most SWAT teams are not going to put their guys in danger trying to determine if a DRUG DEALERS dog is going to give them puppy kisses or bite their sac off! There could be armed suspects anywhere, the safest thing for everybody is to take out the dogs. This way they are not a distraction so a bad guy or a cop does not get hurt. After all, this is all done in about 30 seconds.
    Bad guy? What are you talking about? Nobody got arrested in this case. Nobody at all. There were no bad guys there.

    Its much more complicated then a cop goes into a house and shoots the "family pet".
    How so?
    Im a dog lover and think the owners of the dogs should be charged in their deaths! They are the ones who put the dogs in harms way.
    How did they put the dogs in harms way? None of the owners were charged or arrested in connection with the raid. There were no drugs seized. How did they endanger the lives of the dogs?

    The warrant was supposedly issued on the word of an "informant." What happens if an anonymous informant says there are drugs in your house and some cowboys decide to kick your door in and shoot the dogs. Should you go to jail because the cops screwed up?

    I see no other option for these SWAT teams. Unless you dont mind drug dealers being able to freely sell drugs in the privacy of their own home, next to yours...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tree_hugger29 View Post
    my house is not a drug house.
    Neither was the house in the article, but you were apparently cool with the cops busting in and shooting the place up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoreOfTheSame View Post
    Why did they get a no-knock warrant on the advice of an informant? If the situation was so dire that they needed a SWAT Team then why was there no drugs found, no evidence seized and nobody arrested?

    Please explain how this couldn't have been handled with a simple knock on the door and asking the owners to put the dogs away.
    More, Im sure if they knew there was no drugs, no other suspects, and no guns this would work. There is simply no way for officers to know what is behind that door. Its safe to assume if there is drug activity, weapons arent to far away. A knock on the door would give the suspects the advantage...cops dont want that. Kinda simple...
    So you take the young ladies word that this was all based on 1 informant? Her judgement of men doesnt seem to good, I dont know if Id take her for her word, ya know?
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