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    Have any of you LCSD parents heard about this?

    A friend was over last night. One of his children attends Central Ave school. He told me, and I don't know how credible this is at all, that CA is slated to be closed. Has anyone else heard about this?
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    Why wouldn't they close the one that's not in Lancaster (John Sciole) rather than close the one that is in our town?


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    That makes as much sense as closing Central. Which is, none! There's a huge population of Lancaster kids in Depew, from Transit going down Geo Urban to about where Jimmie's is. Not to mention all the streets right around the school. Where do you think most of that school's population draws from?

    Anyways, that wasn't my question. My question was has anyone else heard about this or it is strictly a viscous rumor? With all the new housing STILL going up and more kids getting bussed in to Sciole since the other el schools are filled to the brim, I can't see how it's true. But my friend was very insistent.
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    I don't know about any school closings but the superintendant stated the enrollment for the primary grades was down about 75 students per grade.

    That would be 300 students K-3. That would be worth closing down a school. Central Ave has 256 students.

    It would make sense to close a school.


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    Yep. I've been hearing that for a few months now. I was told it was because enrollment is down.

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    Enrollment Down

    I thought last year or the year before they wanted to build a new school...During meetings it was challeged because enrollment was already dropping.
    I don't have any children in school but they say alot of these new homes are being purchased by single individuals and married people with no Children. I also see alot of retired couples.
    Whats the percentage of home schooling going on in our community. I know several people who home school.

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    Central Ave. has been talked about closing as a school for years. Closing Central Ave as a school, and converting it to the new District Office is being discussed, as way of supporting the lower enrollment and having a District Office that meets current needs and to provide handicap access. Could other buildings be considered, sure, but it's Central that's being talked about in the plan. Change isn't easy, but the reality is that enrollment is down 75 students at each primary grade level. Layoffs are likely as well as other changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santo23 View Post
    Central Ave. has been talked about closing as a school for years. Closing Central Ave as a school, and converting it to the new District Office is being discussed, as way of supporting the lower enrollment and having a District Office that meets current needs and to provide handicap access. Could other buildings be considered, sure, but it's Central that's being talked about in the plan. Change isn't easy, but the reality is that enrollment is down 75 students at each primary grade level. Layoffs are likely as well as other changes.
    It is my understanding that enrollment is down a total of 75 students for all elementary schools and that Central will not be closed this coming school year.

    Central Avenue will close again when enrollment dictates that happening and the Administration Building will locate there. That is why Sciole will not close. When that happens, redistricting will also take place and parents will once more be in an uproar.

    Good point about the School District wanting to build a new school a few years ago LW. Some of us thought that was truly stupid and a waste of money. But then again, it would be taxpayer money and the Town and School District has a problem reining in spending. It was an attempt to then move the Administration building to Central Ave and build a new school in its place. DUH!

    Hey Santo, what about the enrollment at the William Street School? Pretty stable from what I hear.

    What's your thoughts on present class sizes, teacher staffing and spending?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    What's your thoughts on present class sizes, teacher staffing and spending?
    See, I thought the class sizes would be good once a decrease in enrollment occurred. Do we have any Court Street parents on this board? Are the kids still having art classes in the hallways? I know Sciole isn't as crowded as the other schools. I don't blame the parents who were in an uproar the last time there was redistricting. Busing a kindergartner from way out on Ransom or those developments off Bowen all the way to Sciole is ridiculous in my opinion.
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    The limited information I have is that enrollment is down approx. 75 at each grade level of primary - which would include grades 4-6 at William Street. I think a redistricting is overdue, to rebalance distribution to local school building, but given the uproar that will likely happen it's unlikely and avoided by the district and board.

    Folks will argue optimal class-size numbers and they will always fluctuate from year to year, grade by grade, especially with K-3 distributed across five different buildings. In my opinion LCSD effectively manages class-sizes but has to take necessary action that supports the reductions in enrollment and economic environment. This means a building may close, teachers laid off and even possibly increased class sizes.

    There's no better supporting argument for these and other cost-cutting action than the combination of enrollment decline and recession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santo23 View Post
    The limited information I have is that enrollment is down approx. 75 at each grade level of primary - which would include grades 4-6 at William Street. I think a redistricting is overdue, to rebalance distribution to local school building, but given the uproar that will likely happen it's unlikely and avoided by the district and board.

    Folks will argue optimal class-size numbers and they will always fluctuate from year to year, grade by grade, especially with K-3 distributed across five different buildings. In my opinion LCSD effectively manages class-sizes but has to take necessary action that supports the reductions in enrollment and economic environment. This means a building may close, teachers laid off and even possibly increased class sizes.

    There's no better supporting argument for these and other cost-cutting action than the combination of enrollment decline and recession.
    Interesting because those are not the numbers I heard when attending LCSD school board meetings - especially grades 4-6 at the William Street school.

    Teachers cut at LCSD other than by attrition would shock me. Class sizes increased, why not? However, LCSD administrators and most School Board members will not bite the hands that feed them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chowaniec View Post
    Interesting because those are not the numbers I heard when attending LCSD school board meetings - especially grades 4-6 at the William Street school.

    Teachers cut at LCSD other than by attrition would shock me. Class sizes increased, why not? However, LCSD administrators and most School Board members will not bite the hands that feed them.
    I stand corrected. The following was in a March 10th Buffalo News article:

    http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregio...ry/602807.html

    "He noted that the primary grade enrollment is projected to decline by about 75 pupils per grade, while enrollment is stable at the high school level." He being Superintendent Edward Myszka.

    Would this imply that Central Avenue could be closed, teacher staffing reduced and cost savings had, you betcha. And then could the building be converted to an administration building, more handicap accesible, you betcha. But is it going to happen this year with redistricting a must and the school districts hesitancy to cut staffing except by attrition, most likely not.

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    I had also heard the rumor about Central due to lack of enrollment. My kids go to Sciole and I think they are pretty full, especially since it is the designated school for Pre-K. My son has his art class in a foyer leading from the cafeteria to the parking lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keeks01 View Post
    I had also heard the rumor about Central due to lack of enrollment. My kids go to Sciole and I think they are pretty full, especially since it is the designated school for Pre-K. My son has his art class in a foyer leading from the cafeteria to the parking lot.
    My older child just said they had art in the foyer as well, but only when the art room ceiling was leaking.
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    It was in the Bee that Central Ave is not closing this year. In the past, BTW, it did and the district held onto it... full well knowing there would be a need for the class size. It reopened.

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