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    Csea - Salary and Increment Rules

    Article XXVII
    Section 27.1: Promotions
    (a) Any employee, promoted to a position in a higher job group, shall recieve a salary at the increment step in the range for the higher position which is nearest, but not less tha:
    $100.00 for promotions to Job Groups II, III, IV,V
    $150.00 for promotions to Job Groups VI, VII, VIII, IX
    $200.00 for promotions to Job Groups X, XI, XII, XIII
    $250.00 for promotions for Job Group Xiv and higher above the salary paid to employees at the time of promotion.
    (b) All promotions from step 5 onward will be step to step. Any time served towards earning a longevity step prior to promotion will be counted towars eligibility and time served in the higher title.

    Section 27.2: Demotions
    A permanent employee who accepts appointment to a position that is in a job group lower than the job group of the position in which he/she is serving shal, upon appointment to the lower position, recieve a salary at the increment step in the salary range in his/her former position. If the employee formerly held a lower position, all increments recieved in the higher and lower position, shall be used in computing increment placement in the lower step.

    Section 27.3 Reinstatement
    1. A permanent competitive class employee who has been laid off and subsequently reinstated from a preferred list pursuant to Civil Service Rules shall be reinstated at the same salary step as recieved at time of layoff.
    2. A permanent employee who has resigned and is subsequently reinstated pursuant to Civil Service Rules may be reinstated at the same salary step recieved at the time of resignation if reinstated to same position held at time of resignation.
    3. An employee who is promoted temporarily or provisionally to higher position and who is returned to his/her position in a lower grade, shall upon return to the lower position, recieve a salary at the increment level he/she would have reached had he/she continued to serve continuously in that position.

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    An employee who is promoted temporarily or provisionally to higher position and who is returned to his/her position in a lower grade, shall upon return to the lower position, recieve a salary at the increment level he/she would have reached had he/she continued to serve continuously in that position.

    I wonder how often this happens? This could cost us millions.

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    Probably often and does.
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    Imagine being able to work at a higher step for one pay period then dropped back to where you really belong, only to now recieve better pay.
    Also it states- "recieve a salary at the increment level he/she would have reached had he/she continued to serve continuously in that position."
    This statement allows a person to recieve the highest possible salary from the step they where just demoted from.
    Good job legislature.

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    The Legislature is innocent of the charge.

    Because they can plead ignorance!

    Care to disagree???
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    Can't say that I can.

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    Continued

    Section 27.4: Reallocation
    Upon the reallocation of a class of positions to a higher job group, the employee or employees serving in the reallocated positions shall recieve a salary at the increment step in the higher job group that corresponds with the increment step in which they were serving in the lower group.

    Section 27.5: Reclassification
    When an employee class title is reclassified to a higher title and job group, it shall be considered as a new position and promotion. The salary will then be determined in accordance with the salary rule on Promotions.

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    Originally posted by LHardy
    Imagine being able to work at a higher step for one pay period then dropped back to where you really belong, only to now recieve better pay.
    Also it states- "recieve a salary at the increment level he/she would have reached had he/she continued to serve continuously in that position."
    This statement allows a person to recieve the highest possible salary from the step they where just demoted from.
    Good job legislature.
    I don't read it quite that way, I believe it's intended to mean that the employee is entitled to whatever negotiated raises come along, not necessarily the highest salary. This way a manager can't say your salary is frozen because it's higher than your current grade allows.

    The unions have done some damage to our area and have asked for some outrageous benefits, but not every section is always as evil as it sounds.

    The problem in this clause lies in how often this procedure is used. How often do people get temporary above grade level job assignments just to say, booster that retirement income? It would be interesting if we could get the County to do that type of study. Is there some way to FOIL that? or is that confidential information? Anyone know?

    Also, I find that it is interesting as to what's not written here. For example, how about "every effort will be made to fill a temporary position with a comparable at-grade-level employee"?
    How can we change things?

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    "every effort will be made to fill a temporary position with a comparable at-grade-level employee"?

    Are you saying that is in the contract or it should be?

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    Re: Csea - Salary and Increment Rules

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    Originally posted by LHardy
    Imagine being able to work at a higher step for one pay period then dropped back to where you really belong, only to now recieve better pay.
    Also it states- "recieve a salary at the increment level he/she would have reached had he/she continued to serve continuously in that position."
    This statement allows a person to recieve the highest possible salary from the step they where just demoted from.
    Good job legislature.
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    Basically, all this provision says that is if you take a temp. assignment to a higher paying position, when you return to your lower paying position, your pay will revert to what it would be if you worked the entire time in your original position.....pshew
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    Man!
    You guys really don't know how to read a contract, or maybe it is just because I am in a similar system.
    Let me try to explain what that means.
    If you are a truck driver and you have been there two years and are on your 2nd increment step on your way to the top level of truck driver pay (5th level/five years).
    A temporary supervisor position opens up and you apply and are temporarily promoted. After a year they finally have a civil service test for the supervisors job. The list comes out and you don't finish on top.
    Some one else gets the position and you have to return as truck driver, a year has gone by and you are paid a the third truck driver incriment step as if you never left the job.
    You don't retain the higher supervisors pay and go back to a lesser position of truck driver.
    I hope I cleared that up.
    A lot of the things people think are in these contracts are not really what they think they are.
    It can be confusing to people who are not used to dealing with them, but they are there for a reason and it is usually to circumvent political abuse of the workers.
    "If you want to know what God thinks of money just look at the people he gave it to."

    By the way, what happened to biker? I miss the old coot.

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