MC and ILNY, the only #'s that REALLY matter, are these:
do you know what they are ? se ebelow.
and yes, MC, I will completely concur that Walker wanted to bust the unions stranglehold on their own members.MOST of whom were being forced to pay aginat their will. His objective was to give FREEDOM of choice back to the govt employees who were being a) forced to join a union, and b) having $$ taken directly out of their checks to go to the govt union. oh sure..it might have the net effect of the union and its political clout fading away...but quite obviously, the majority of employees did NOT want the union nor its extortionist tactics.
MC, look at those 2 #'s...because it looks like the govt employees themselves wanted the union busted. If the MAJORITY.... didnt want the govt unions what agenda are YOU on to insist that they are in the wrong? The union wasnt taken away from anyone...gov temployees were simply allowed to have choice.. It looks like it was the (forced) union members themselves who busted the union....by voluntarily leaving. No one forced them to leave the union..it was free will.
an appropriately named link
The paramount issue was whether the government could force someone to belong to a union in order to hold a job and deduct union dues from his pay without giving him any say in the matter.
Governor Scott Walker and a Republican majority in the Wisconsin Legislature ended that sweetheart deal for public-sector unions in the State. The results have been catastrophic for the bully boys (and girls) of collective bargaining.
Once the law went into effect, no State employee could be forced to join a union in order to hold a job. Dues would no longer be deducted automatically; employees had to specifically request the deduction of union dues from their paychecks.
Given a choice, guess what happened? Tens of thousands of former union members said “no thanks.” As a result, union membership and dues fell like a safe being dropped out of a window.
The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) is the second-largest public-sector union in Wisconsin. The largest is the National Education Association.
Prior to the passage of the Walker reforms, AFSCME had 62,818 members in Wisconsin. Six months after the new law took effect, the number had declined to just 28,745 dues-paying members. In other words, once they weren’t forced to be union members, more than 50 percent headed for the doors.
Bryan Kennedy, the president of the American Federation of Teachers in Wisconsin, said that failure to recall Walker “spells doom” for his union. Let’s hope he’s right.
None of this should come as a surprise. Time after time and in State after State, whenever right-to-work laws have replaced compulsory union membership, the results have been the same: More and more workers refuse to support unions. As President Barack Obama’s team will tell you, it takes a heck of a lot of “community organizing” to make up the difference.
blah blah blah..unemployment CES..etc etc etc. Go aead and argue away the semantic. The reality was that , when GOIVEN THE CHOI
Ce...most of the govt employees did NOT want to be in the union. Hmmm....lets try that in NYS see what happens..give people a CHOICE ?