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    Arrow America will be destroyed

    "... and this great country of ours like Rome before ours is tottering on it's last legs and is about to come crashing down. We are already bankrupt ... . But when we are unable to go any further because of a series of disasters that none of us can foretell. And eventually the United States like Rome before us will fall." ~ Garner Ted Armstrong (Evangelist)
    It's not that I want our country to be destroyed. I don't want that to happen.

    It's inevitable.

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    Thumbs up Nuclear disarmament now

    We are going about the nuclear proliferation problem incorrectly.

    The U.S. is telling these other countries like Iran, North Korea and others that they should not possess W.M.D.'s. While at the same time we're not willing to give up ours. That's sending the wrong message. The approach we're currently taking will only lead to destruction.

    No countries in the world should have Nuclear or chemical weapons, including the United States. There should be a verification plan to make sure they and we are complying with disarmament.

    We should defend our country with conventional means as should they. Our freedom and democracy is very important, but not if it means we have to destroy the world to save it.

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modera...edforamericans

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    Re: Nuclear disarmament now

    Originally posted by MOPEDER
    We are going about the nuclear proliferation problem incorrectly.

    The U.S. is telling these other countries like Iran, North Korea and others that they should not possess W.M.D.'s. While at the same time we're not willing to give up ours. That's sending the wrong message. The approach we're currently taking will only lead to destruction.

    No countries in the world should have Nuclear or chemical weapons, including the United States. There should be a verification plan to make sure they and we are complying with disarmament.

    We should defend our country with conventional means as should they. Our freedom and democracy is very important, but not if it means we have to destroy the world to save it.

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/modera...edforamericans

    My God,

    I wonder if this post didn't originate in Koffi Annan's office at the UN.

    More mindless Euro, liberal UN propaganda!!!! Just where do these people come from anyway?

    They would love nothing more than to see the US unilaterally disarm. Never mind that the UN is a toothless organization who's tolerance for despots, dictator's and any group who is anti Israel is well known. They see no problem in treating these losers as respected heads of state.

    But,

    The real problem is the Americans. Yessirreee, the US is the one nation on this earth that the UN cannot control. But the UN would love nothing better than to see America armed with conventional weapons only, like so many of the brutal regimes around the world.

    After all, fair is fair!!! right????


    And of course we can count on these despots to honor treaties, encourage democracy and overall become responsible members of the world community. Yep!!!

    Know why? Because we have a piece of paper with their signature on it that says they will!!!! And the UN will vouge for them!

    Phew, I feel safer already!

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    Excellent response jb. I could not agree with you more. Too bad there are so many people who live life with their head in the sand.

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    I've never really been able to understand the concept of "Yes, of course WE have the Bomb, but you, you're not allowed to have it".

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    Re: Re: Nuclear disarmament now

    Originally posted by jbinbny
    My God,

    I wonder if this post didn't originate in Koffi Annan's office at the UN.

    More mindless Euro, liberal UN propaganda!!!! Just where do these people come from anyway?

    They would love nothing more than to see the US unilaterally disarm. Never mind that the UN is a toothless organization who's tolerance for despots, dictator's and any group who is anti Israel is well known. They see no problem in treating these losers as respected heads of state.

    But,

    The real problem is the Americans. Yessirreee, the US is the one nation on this earth that the UN cannot control. But the UN would love nothing better than to see America armed with conventional weapons only, like so many of the brutal regimes around the world.

    After all, fair is fair!!! right????


    And of course we can count on these despots to honor treaties, encourage democracy and overall become responsible members of the world community. Yep!!!

    Know why? Because we have a piece of paper with their signature on it that says they will!!!! And the UN will vouge for them!

    Phew, I feel safer already!
    Another knee-jerk rightie rant from good ol' JB.

    Accusing someone who links to Garner Ted Armstrong's website of spewing "mindless Euro, liberal UN propaganda" is really funny, jb. It simply shows that you don't think, you just react. Just like ol' Pavlov's dogs! Who trained you? Limbaugh? Hannity? Bauerle?

    ROFLMAO!!!

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    Re: Re: Re: Nuclear disarmament now

    Originally posted by Linda_D
    Another knee-jerk rightie rant from good ol' JB.

    Accusing someone who links to Garner Ted Armstrong's website of spewing "mindless Euro, liberal UN propaganda" is really funny, jb. It simply shows that you don't think, you just react. Just like ol' Pavlov's dogs! Who trained you? Limbaugh? Hannity? Bauerle?

    ROFLMAO!!!

    Clearly you live in some sort of dream world. Whether it is on the state or local stage or the world stage....your clueless!

    I dont know what world you live in, but here in the real world we see it the way it really is.

    A dose of reality..........I wonder if you would know what to do with it. At the very least your incapapble of distinguishing reality from fantasy.

    More ivory tower diplomacy?

    I should have guessed!

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    ROFLMAO!!!!

    You have that down pat!!!!

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    BLAH BLAH WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO W/ WNY & BUFFALO?

    BLAH BLAH WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO W/ WNY & BUFFALO?

    I SEEM TO HAVE GOTTEN THIS LECTURE ABOUT HOW TOPICS SHOULD RELATE TO WNY AND BUFFALO AND NOW THIS CRAP PLUS A SERIES OF "WHERE ARE YOU FROM" AND "WHOS THE MOST ANNOYING"

    WELL HERE IS MY COMMENT
    This whole post is rubbish

    yes, its only a matter of time before our country is bombed and it might even be by a weapon of mass destruction and no nation is a greater target than Israel....making america, its protector, a target so it will be pre-occupied and unable to defend Israel. In its essence, the last 60 years of ethnic cleansing for zionist expansion will come back to Israel and with no one to turn too.

    no, it will not be the end of the US.

    THE WORLD IS GETTING SMALLER EVERYDAY AND TECHNOLOGY THAT ONCE REQUIRED LOS ALAMOS LABS CAN NOW BE FOUND ON THE INTERNET AND THE LOCAL RADIO SHACK.

    EUROPE UNDERSTANDS THIS THREAT SUFFERING FROM TWO WORLD WARS, NUMEROUS INTERNATIONAL CONFLICTS THROUGHOUT HISTORY AND OF COURSE THIS IS NOT EUROPES FIRST WAR WITH MUSLIMS....PEOPLE FORGET THAT THE TURKS MARCHED INTO HUNGARY AND AUSTRIA....AND IT WAS THE POLES THAT CAME AND FREED THEM.

    Americans always thought themselves insulated by the Atlantic & Pacific....but with planes & missiles and suitcase sized WMDs...its not the great protective wall it once was for us. ITS TRUE WE SIMPLY CANNOT SUPPORT FAILED STATES MENACING THEIR NEIGHBORS OR THEIR WORLD.

    WE ARE BETTER HAVING THE UN AS A TOOL FOR PEACE THAN NOT HAVING IT. UNILATERALISM SIMPLY REORGANIZES THE WORLDS NATIONS INTO NEW ALLIES TO BALANCE US POWER. THUS MAKING THE US COMPETITOR RATHER THAN A PARTNER....A BULLY RATHER THAN A LEADER.

    If there is a future trend for the US, it will be one of expansionism. My future predictions
    1) is that Mexico, much of Central America down to Panama and the Carribean Islands will become annexed to the US or will be part of an American version of the EU. The term AMERICAN will not mean someone from the US but someone from the South, Central or North American Continent.
    2) LOOK FOR THE US DOLLAR TO BE THE UNIVERSAL CURRENCY FOR SOUTH, CENTRAL & NORTH AMERICA.
    3) The future industry will be that relating to health care and alternative energy.
    4) ON THE POSITIVE SIDE, THE US IS APPROACHING 300,000,000 MILLION PEOPLE AND ITS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THE LOST CITY OF BUFFALO IS REDISCOVERED LIKE THE LOST TEMPLES OF THE MAYANS, AZTECS, INCAS AND THE GREAT CITY OF ANGOR VAT IN CAMBODIA.

    BUT AGAIN, WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH BUFFALO.

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    LOOK FOR THE US DOLLAR TO BE THE UNIVERSAL CURRENCY FOR SOUTH, CENTRAL & NORTH AMERICA.
    That will be a sad day.

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    Ugh. We really needed this thread.

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    This is the Morning Breakfast thread so we can talk about anything here.

    Moad - you are probably a very wise and smart person. But you are also wrong. Your fascination with Eurabia and denigration of Israel (the only democracy in the ME) show you have your head in the sand.

    Linda - you speak eloquently on many topics regarding WNY but also have your head in the sand on the world stage.

    It's interesting that there are people who think it's ok for Iran to have the bomb.

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    Originally posted by buffknut
    This is the Morning Breakfast thread so we can talk about anything here.

    Moad - you are probably a very wise and smart person. But you are also wrong. Your fascination with Eurabia and denigration of Israel (the only democracy in the ME) show you have your head in the sand.

    Linda - you speak eloquently on many topics regarding WNY but also have your head in the sand on the world stage.

    It's interesting that there are people who think it's ok for Iran to have the bomb.
    buffknut, I'm wasn't commenting on whether the original poster (MOPEDER) here was right or wrong; I was commenting on jbinbny's insulting dismissal of MOPEDER's post --
    More mindless Euro, liberal UN propaganda!!!!
    -- by pointing out that it's ridiculous to call somebody who quotes Garner Ted Armstrong a "liberal".

    Any time anyone has an opinion that differs from JB's, he bashes them by calling them "liberals" whether that has anything to do with the topic at hand or not. He wants to turn everything into a right wing vs left wing ideological debate because that's obviously how he sees the world (most likely a consequence of listening to too much Limbaugh, Hannity, and Bauerle).

    Every once in a while, an ideologue needs to get bashed back.

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    I call it the way I see it.

    And I dont need a radio talk show host to form my opinions for me.

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    Originally posted by buffknut
    Excellent response jb. I could not agree with you more. Too bad there are so many people who live life with their head in the sand.

    How true!

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