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    Remember when...

    Remember when Obamacare was forced down our throats.
    Remember when the CBO said Obamacare would actually cut the deficit by 200 billion over ten years.
    Remember how we posted an article by past CBO head Elmendorf who said these numbers are only based on what the Demtards gave them.
    Well, now that the real numbers are in...

    CBO: Obamacare to cost $1.76 trillion over 10 yrs
    http://campaign2012.washingtonexamin...-10-yrs/425831
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    And that $1.76 TRILLION is really over 9 years not 10!

    When they do a full 10 years of spending it's over $2.1 TRILLION, which will add another 1 trillion in debt over 10 years.

    I only watched a little of CNN last night, but was supprised I didn't hear about this at all yesterday.
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    Dumbest post ever! Thanks for the laugh PO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougles View Post
    When they do a full 10 years of spending it's over $2.1 TRILLION, which will add another 1 trillion in debt over 10 years.
    How cool would it be to ONLY add 2 trillion in debt over 10 years. (200 billion X 10)



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    Quote Originally Posted by BorderBob View Post
    How cool would it be to ONLY add 2 trillion in debt over 10 years. (200 billion X 10)



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    So I guess your premise would cut/eliminate all the other Fed programs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BorderBob View Post
    How cool would it be to ONLY add 2 trillion in debt over 10 years. (200 billion X 10)



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    That $2,000,000,000,000 would be on top of the $9,000,000,000,000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BorderBob View Post
    How cool would it be to ONLY add 2 trillion in debt over 10 years. (200 billion X 10)



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    What is your point. It's not a intelligent to spend money you don't have along without the means to pay it back. basically it's stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    What is your point. It's not a intelligent to spend money you don't have along without the means to pay it back. basically it's stupid.
    Consider the alternative. We go back to millions of people not being insured, and instead of getting timely, preventative care, people will get sicker and sicker until they're using the Emergency Room for all their critical health care needs. Then, not only are we paying for it anyway, but in the most expensive and least efficient manner conceivable.

    Paying for it would be simple if we had adults in Congress and not petulant children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindcrime View Post
    Consider the alternative. We go back to millions of people not being insured, and instead of getting timely, preventative care, people will get sicker and sicker until they're using the Emergency Room for all their critical health care needs. Then, not only are we paying for it anyway, but in the most expensive and least efficient manner conceivable.

    Paying for it would be simple if we had adults in Congress and not petulant children.
    Yep. I didn't see people dying in our streets because obama care wasn't around. Did you? You simply can't spend money you don't have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILOVEDNY View Post
    Remember when Obamacare was forced down our throats.
    Remember when the CBO said Obamacare would actually cut the deficit by 200 billion over ten years.
    Remember how we posted an article by past CBO head Elmendorf who said these numbers are only based on what the Demtards gave them.
    Well, now that the real numbers are in...
    And it's going to cost less. What the CBO estimate says is that, according to its models, health care reform is going to save even more taxpayer dollars than previously thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindcrime View Post
    And it's going to cost less. What the CBO estimate says is that, according to its models, health care reform is going to save even more taxpayer dollars than previously thought.
    So going from "saving" $25 billion (the revised number after Obamacare was passed) but costing $1.1 Trillion to costing $2.1 trillion is going to save even more?

    Simple math would show that it will add over $1 Trillion in new debt over ten years... if that's what you want to call "savings" we have bigger issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindcrime View Post
    And it's going to cost less. What the CBO estimate says is that, according to its models, health care reform is going to save even more taxpayer dollars than previously thought.
    What is the weather like on your planet?
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    Tough to justify the expense when Obamacare has caused the number of uninsured to rise 17%.
    Check out how Blacks and Hispanics were hardest hit.
    Women who are uninsured have risen by double digits also.

    We're supposed to be outraged that the Catholics won't let their employees get free birth control.
    But the fact that millions of women have lost their insurance under obamacare, no problem.
    4 more years of this.http://www.gallup.com/poll/152162/Am...0-%20Wellbeing
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    ObamaCare Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics


    ObamaCare was built upon so many lies and deceptions it's hard to keep track, but this week revealed three in particular. What was it that Nancy Pelosi said about having to "pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it"?

    Lie Number 1: "Now, add it all up, and the plan I'm proposing will cost around $900 billion over 10 years." --Barack Obama in a September 2009 speech to a joint session of Congress

    The Congressional Budget Office at the time did confirm Obama's numbers, but the CBO scores legislation only as written, without any assumptions or reality checks, and therefore accounted for just six years of spending because most provisions of the law don't kick in until 2014. There were other revenue and cost games, too, since it was paramount that the cost be less than the Iraq War so Democrats could sell it as saving money. We weren't fooled then and neither were millions of Americans, but Democrats rammed it through anyway.

    This week, the CBO released an updated report that includes three more years of ObamaCare inside that 10-year window. The estimated cost over a decade is now an eye-popping $1.76 trillion, or nearly twice what Democrats told us in 2009. Not only that, but it won't be until next year that we get a truer 10-year cost estimate, assuming the law isn't repealed or overturned by the Supreme Court. That estimate will surpass $2 trillion. Let's hope Justice Anthony Kennedy wakes up on the right side of the bed the day he makes his decision.

    Lie Number 2: "If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan." --Barack Obama in August 2009, but repeated often
    Obama and his fellow Democrats insisted that ObamaCare was not a government takeover of health care, and that, while all the uninsured would be cared for, none of the currently insured would lose coverage. However, The Hill reports, "Four million Americans can expect to lose their employer-provided healthcare by 2016, according to the revised figures, far more than the 1 million people estimated last year." You can check our math, but that's approximately four million more people than Obama promised in his 2009 speech. By 2022, the CBO says that number could reach 20 million. More employers dropping coverage in favor of paying the penalty means a revenue increase, too, improving ObamaCare's bottom line.

    As if to make good news out of broken promises, CBS headlined, "CBO lowers health reform cost estimate." This bit of deception referenced the provision meant to cover the uninsured when the real news was about the overall cost increase. It's true that the coverage cost was revised lower, but that's only because some two million fewer people will be insured than originally estimated, not because of any great savings.

    Lie Number 3: "Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place." --Barack Obama in the aforementioned September 2009 address

    The Department of Health and Human Services finalized a rule this week establishing state health care exchanges, and those plans will collect from each premium payer a $1 surcharge to fund abortions. Obama's HHS will use accounting gimmicks to circumvent the Hyde Amendment, which prohibits direct taxpayer funding of abortion. Former Democrat Rep. Bart Stupak of Michigan and other Democrats made a grand show over this issue in 2010, refusing to vote for the health care takeover until Obama included a ban on funding abortion. They got their wish, but Obama hasn't upheld his end of the bargain.

    It's becoming more and more important that this unconstitutional atrocity be either struck down by the Supreme Court or repealed by our alleged representatives. The White House has already mapped out a desperate strategy to boost public support. Perhaps it's no wonder that the law's supporters are organizing a prayer vigil as the Court hears arguments March 26. To whom they will be offering prayer is another matter.

    *Source - http://patriotpost.us/edition/2012/03/16/digest/
    The above is opinion & commentary, I am exercising my 1st Amendment rights as a US citizen. Posts are NOT made with any malicious intent.

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