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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    That is a fair and reasonable answer. Here is an issue. Human nature. People would figure out how to have prescriptions written under one drug name versus another if they would make money off of it.
    Two words, medical marijuana.

    Rush may succumb to the marketplace this time. It drove Glen Beck to the Internet, Don Imus to B-team cable and Keith Olberman to what ever alphabet level Current-TV is?


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    Sandra Fluke Does Not Speak for Me

    Mar 2, 2012 by Angela Morabito

    I’m a proud Georgetown woman upset about another Georgetown woman who may have no pride at all. How else do you explain - Ms. Sandra Fluke, a Georgetown Law student, now famous for testimony she never gave – jumping up to talk about her sex life (with the House Minority Leader and with the liberal media) and ask for the cost of her sex life to be subsidized by other students at a Jesuit School?

    Sandra Fluke was declined the privilege (a privilege, not a right) of testifying in front of a Senate Committee on the proposed contraceptive mandate.

    Her name was submitted too late to be admitted to testify. She’s not a lawyer. She’s not a member of the clergy – crucial for a hearing on religious freedom, wouldn’t you say? That’s what Representative Issa said. Her one claim to fame in the reproductive health care debate is…drumroll, please…being a student club leader! You go, Sandra! Hang those posters girl. Wear out those Sharpies.

    Me? I love me some extracurricular involvement. The difference between Sandra and me is that I don’t think it qualifies me to speak in front of Congress. ”The Chair calls to the stand the captains of the intramural ultimate frisbee team!”

    Having been told by Congress to more or less shut up and go home, Sandra found a sympathetic ear in Nancy Pelosi. She is not going to find one on the Georgetown Campus. She is wildly out of step.

    Senate Democrats needed a show pony for this circus – and they knew they could find a liberal woman on a college campus who would willingly trot around the ring. That’s why Nancy & Pals created a photo op with all the props – the microphones, the podium, an air of pretense, and the all-important liberal media – for Sandra to tell her “story.” And it is just that – a story, told on a stage.

    But Nancy Pelosi and the Liberal Media should know that they can no longer rely on college campuses as an endless source of liberal support. My colleagues and I at TheCollegeConservative are creating a new wave on campuses across the country. Every day we make it a little safer to be conservative – out in public – without fear of bad grades as a result of our views. Sandra should know we have no fear in calling out a classmate for thoughtless liberal ideology.

    Sandra Fluke doesn’t speak for me. Or for Georgetown.

    She doesn’t speak for those of us who worked hard to be able to choose to come to a great institution with a great tradition of faith and scholarship. She certainly can’t speak for the Jesuits who dedicated their lives to God and Education with a long established set of rules. There are only ten of them, and Ms. Fluke would do well to give them a quick read.

    If she wants a more liberal sex life, she can go to Syracuse. (Syracuse, I must apologize – but we are in March and basketball matters – sorry you got caught up in this.)

    Sandra doesn’t even speak for all skanks! She only speaks for the skanks who don’t want to take responsibility for their choices. That’s a tiny group of people. Hey Sandra! How about next Saturday night, you come hang out with me and my gay boyfriends! Your hair will look fabulous and you’ll get to see great musical theatre! Oh, and odds of you getting pregnant? Zero percent.

    Even the oh-so-left HuffPo called Sandra out on her media sluttery: ”Fluke got the stage all to herself and was hailed as a hero by the crowd and Democratic lawmakers on the panel, all of whom rushed to appear on camera with her at the end. “Excuse me. I’d love to get a picture with our star,” Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) said as she pushed her way through the packed room to Fluke.” Star of what? Star of the bedroom sex tape? When did Georgetown Law start admitting Kardashians?

    Sandra, we might be on the same campus, but we are not on the same planet.

    Sandra told some sob stories about how contraception isn’t covered by the Jesuit institution we attend. (Maybe they don’t cover it because, you know, they’re a Jesuit institution. Religious freedom? Anyone? Bueller?)

    A student group called Plan A H*yas for Choice staged a demonstration against the university health plan last year, duct taping their mouths and chaining themselves to the statue of Georgetown’s founder on the university’s front lawn. Then, a funny thing happened – nothing. We left them there. Now Sandra has chained herself to the sinking ship of Pelosi Liberalism. She will always be remembered as a Welfare Condom Queen.

    Let’s talk priorities here. It costs over $23,000 for a year at Georgetown Law. Sandra, are you telling us that you can afford that but cannot afford your own contraception? Really? Math was never my strong suit, but something about Sandra’s accounting just doesn’t seem right.

    No one forced Sandra to come to Georgetown. And now that she has, Sandra does not have to depend on the university health plan. She could walk down the street to CVS and get some contraception herself. Or, go to an off-campus, non-university doctor and pay for it out of pocket. (Or, you know…maybe not have so much sex that it puts her in financial peril?)

    Funny how the same side that cries “Get your rosaries off my ovaries” is the same side saying, “on second thought…please pay for me to have all the sex I want!” The people who espouse “pro-choice” “values” are the same people who say religious institutions have no right to choose.

    Imagine if someone else had asked the government to cover a different activity. Let’s say I want to go rock climbing. It’s my body and my choice and I want to climb all the cliffs I can! Imagine if I went to the government and asked it to pay for helmets and ropes and band-aids I’ll need to safely climb rocks every day of my life. What would everyone say?

    “It’s your choice to do that- no one’s forcing you to scale cliffs. So, either quit it or pay for it yourself!”

    This is the reaction we should have had to Sandra Fluke.

    Sandra, I hope you take to heart our school’s motto of “Cura Personalis” – care of the whole person. You are so much more than your reproductive organs. Please, have some self-respect and take responsibility for your choices instead of having to beg the government for help. The government should not be able to force a religious institution – like the one we attend – to pay for the things they don’t believe in. That is pretty clear in the first amendment. But since you missed the ten commandments I can’t expect you to read the Bill of Rights either.

    I believe in Georgetown. I love this school. And I know that we are so, so much better than what Sandra Fluke would make us out to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    ...So we don't look like we have a preference we will pick their assortment pack.


    Lubricated Assortment

    12 pack for - $8.99

    $3000 / $8.99 = 333 packs X 12 in a package = 4,004 condoms.

    When does she make time to go to class?
    I think you're making the same assumption that Rush does. He's so used to popping a Viagra each and everytime he has sex, that this math actually seems relevant. But it's not. Birth control pills are a cyclical daily protocol that you follow every day, whether you have sex 50 times or not at all. This comparison is ludicrous.
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    Personally I really don't care what happens to either one of them. The both wanted attention and now they got it. None of this should be elevated to a national issue for the upcoming election. How many states already require birth control coverage from insurance providers today?

    I'm all for having some sort of insurance coverage for birth control - but Fluke is doing more damage than good for her cause. Maybe I'm wrong here, but a law student who will probably be making the big bucks in a couple years should not be their poster child. I want to think the insurance coverage is going to help a poor working family avoid having another welfare baby, or help a housewife with 5 kids in tow take some charge of her life when her husband refuses to wear a condom. But a young single attractive future lawyer? Not very smart. I'm not saying she shouldn't have coverage necessarily - I don't know anything about her. But why is she the one on national TV?

    Fluke: "Contraception can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school," she said. "For a lot of students like me who are on public interest scholarships, that's practically an entire summer's salary."

    $3000 over 3 years is over $80 per month. Isn't birth control really about half that cost? Seriously, I don't think many people are going to 'feel her (dubious) pain'.

    And what does law school have to do with anything? Would the dollar about be different for an English major? Maybe contraception costs $1000 for Business School?


    Rush is an entertainer just looking for ratings. What else is new? Ratings are what make him rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by therising View Post
    No.
    I think that your brand of small-mindedness comes from within.
    Correct, that still small voice... my small mindedness is about 1.5" x 7" x 9"
    The above is opinion & commentary, I am exercising my 1st Amendment rights as a US citizen. Posts are NOT made with any malicious intent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300miles View Post
    Personally I really don't care what happens to either one of them. The both wanted attention and now they got it. None of this should be elevated to a national issue for the upcoming election. How many states already require birth control coverage from insurance providers today?

    I'm all for having some sort of insurance coverage for birth control - but Fluke is doing more damage than good for her cause. Maybe I'm wrong here, but a law student who will probably be making the big bucks in a couple years should not be their poster child. I want to think the insurance coverage is going to help a poor working family avoid having another welfare baby, or help a housewife with 5 kids in tow take some charge of her life when her husband refuses to wear a condom. But a young single attractive future lawyer? Not very smart. I'm not saying she shouldn't have coverage necessarily - I don't know anything about her. But why is she the one on national TV?

    Fluke: "Contraception can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school," she said. "For a lot of students like me who are on public interest scholarships, that's practically an entire summer's salary."

    $3000 over 3 years is over $80 per month. Isn't birth control really about half that cost? Seriously, I don't think many people are going to 'feel her (dubious) pain'.

    And what does law school have to do with anything? Would the dollar about be different for an English major? Maybe contraception costs $1000 for Business School?


    Rush is an entertainer just looking for ratings. What else is new? Ratings are what make him rich.
    considering that women's useage of birth control is nearly universal in this country, it doesn't matter what demographic 'represents' them.

    And the cost can range from $30 a month to over $100, depending on your prescription.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILOVEDNY View Post
    Here's a simple solution to BC pills being needed for disease treatment.
    Have the pharma companys market a small % their pills under a different name.
    When BC was needed as a treatment, the Doctor can prescribe the other pill and it would be covered like any other prescription.
    I bet the Church could live with this.

    But it's not about disease treatment.
    That is a fair and reasonable solution, but I wonder if the Catholic Church would really agree to it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindcrime View Post
    considering that women's useage of birth control is nearly universal in this country, it doesn't matter what demographic 'represents' them.
    Medically and logically, yes you are right.

    But if they're pushing to make this a national issue, then it also requires politics and public relations.

    Using someone going to law school as an example makes the issue seem more trivial than it really is. They could have really blown it with this if it weren't for Rush Limbaugh making an ass of himself and handing it back to them with a big bow on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Broughton View Post
    Correct, that still small voice... my small mindedness is about 1.5" x 7" x 9"
    You gotta stop obsessing over me, Frank. Look back at your posts. Nearly all of them are to me. And, in every instance, you started the conversation.

    I refuse to be saved - move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindcrime View Post
    I think you're making the same assumption that Rush does. He's so used to popping a Viagra each and everytime he has sex, that this math actually seems relevant. But it's not. Birth control pills are a cyclical daily protocol that you follow every day, whether you have sex 50 times or not at all. This comparison is ludicrous.
    I know that. I'm looking at what is more efficient for her. People can buy their own birth control for recreational sex.

    Re-read her QUOTE, you know her OWN WORDS. Read post 25 of this thread.

    Go listen to her own words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 300miles View Post
    Personally I really don't care what happens to either one of them. The both wanted attention and now they got it. None of this should be elevated to a national issue for the upcoming election. How many states already require birth control coverage from insurance providers today?

    Politics for you. Only one focus on what needs to be done for our country is Ron Paul. A lot of the other items that people are bringing up is just useless fluff.


    I'm all for having some sort of insurance coverage for birth control - but Fluke is doing more damage than good for her cause. Maybe I'm wrong here, but a law student who will probably be making the big bucks in a couple years should not be their poster child. I want to think the insurance coverage is going to help a poor working family avoid having another welfare baby, or help a housewife with 5 kids in tow take some charge of her life when her husband refuses to wear a condom. But a young single attractive future lawyer? Not very smart. I'm not saying she shouldn't have coverage necessarily - I don't know anything about her. But why is she the one on national TV?

    Why should anyone or business pay so she can have recreational sex? Keep her legs closed and she won't have to have someone pay for her recreational sex. Plus seeing health is a topic she should know how many STD's there are. Birth control pills will not stop aids, stds, etc...


    Fluke: "Contraception can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school," she said. "For a lot of students like me who are on public interest scholarships, that's practically an entire summer's salary."

    $3000 over 3 years is over $80 per month. Isn't birth control really about half that cost? Seriously, I don't think many people are going to 'feel her (dubious) pain'.

    $8.99 for a package of condoms and she can have sex 12 times a month. AND condoms will help prevent the spread of those nasty STD's. Birth controls do nothing to stop STD's.. Correct?
    And what does law school have to do with anything? Would the dollar about be different for an English major? Maybe contraception costs $1000 for Business School?


    Rush is an entertainer just looking for ratings. What else is new? Ratings are what make him rich.
    He is an idiot quite often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by therising View Post
    You gotta stop obsessing over me, Frank. Look back at your posts. Nearly all of them are to me. And, in every instance, you started the conversation.

    I refuse to be saved - move on.
    Perhaps you are obsessed with yourself to even think that I would have the slightest obsession. You are the only left winger here that sometimes shows some respect and common sense, the rest are gone.... thus my conversation with you....

    You are fun to poke at from time to time..... 8-)

    Funny you would even think that last statement, did not even enter into my mind. Will not even further that thought - soul liberty, I strongly believe in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    He is an idiot quite often.
    That is true.
    The above is opinion & commentary, I am exercising my 1st Amendment rights as a US citizen. Posts are NOT made with any malicious intent.

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    El Rushbo has issued an apology:

    A Statement from Rush
    March 03, 2012

    For over 20 years, I have illustrated the absurd with absurdity, three hours a day, five days a week. In this instance, I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation. I did not mean a personal attack on Ms. Fluke.

    I think it is absolutely absurd that during these very serious political times, we are discussing personal sexual recreational activities before members of Congress. I personally do not agree that American citizens should pay for these social activities. What happened to personal responsibility and accountability? Where do we draw the line? If this is accepted as the norm, what will follow? Will we be debating if taxpayers should pay for new sneakers for all students that are interested in running to keep fit? In my monologue, I posited that it is not our business whatsoever to know what is going on in anyone's bedroom nor do I think it is a topic that should reach a Presidential level.

    My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir. I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices.

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    Probably on advice of his lawyers

    Other than a lawsuit I can't think of any other reason he would apologize, given that he followed the apology with a "monologue" about "sexual recreational activities" and "sneakers" - depicting his remarks as an attempt at humor, all of which sounds like an attempt to depict his statements as parody and humor to avoid the lawsuit.

    Here is what his lawyer told him: As long as you are willing to admit that you are media clown rather than a political commentator then we will be able to defend you on the basis that whatever you said was just a "joke" rather than a factual statement.

    So Rush has joined the ranks of SNL and the Daily Show, or as Jon Stewart self-describes "a fake news show".

    And what does that make a ditto head? A clown-head?

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