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    Democrats, vs Republicans, Military Service---An Eye Opener !!!!

    The attached is an aged e-mail that I came across. It says a lot about the
    hypocrisy of the Iraq war loving Republicans of our Congress. Some of these
    Democrats were forced from office as a result of lies used against them
    during the campaigns by war-dodging and cowardly Republicans. Among this
    group of Republicans were U S Senator, Saxby Chambliss of Georgia.



    Please let the nation know who the real draft dodgers are.



    NOTE: Some of these people are no longer in the public eye.

    This is an eye-opener ..........>
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    &g t; DEMOCRATS:

    * Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
    * David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.
    * Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.
    * Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army
    journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.
    * Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.
    * Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII.
    * John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V,
    Purple Hearts.
    * Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.
    * Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam.
    Paraplegic from war injuries. Served in Congress.
    * Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.
    * Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
    * Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971 -1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.
    * Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaign
    ribbons.
    * Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars,and
    Soldier's Medal.
    * Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and
    Legion of Merit.
    * Mike Thompso! n: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.
    * Bill McBride: Candidate for Florida Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze,
    Star with Combat V.
    * Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.
    * Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57.
    * Chuck Robb: Vietnam.
    * Howell Heflin: Silver Star.
    * George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.
    * Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft but
    received #311.
    * Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
    * Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953.
    * John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 Clusters.
    * Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul
    Wallenberg.

    REPUBLICANS -- and these are the guys SENDING PEOPLE TO WAR:

    * Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage. &
    gt;
    * Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
    * Tom Delay: did not serve.
    * Roy Blunt: did not serve.
    * Bill Frist: did not serve.
    * Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
    * Rick Santorum: did not serve.
    * Trent Lott: did not serve.
    * John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.
    * Jeb Bush: did not serve.
    * Karl Rove: did not serve. (Bush's Machiavelli)
    * Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Max
    Cleland's patriotism.
    * Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve. Neocon warhawk & gt;
    * Vin Weber: did not serve.
    * Richard Perle: did not serve. Neocon warhawk
    * Douglas Feith: did not serve.
    * Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
    * Richard Shelby: did not serve.
    * Jon Kyl: did not serve.
    * Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
    * Christopher Cox: did not serve.
    * Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
    * Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.
    * George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got
    assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running for U.S.
    Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam, disappeared from duty.
    * Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non- combat role making
    movies.
    * B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in Korea.
    * Phil Gramm: did not serve.
    * John McCain: Vietnam POW, Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit,
    Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. Remember how the Bush campaign
    trashed him in the Republican primaries in 2000?
    * Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.
    * John M. McHugh: did not serve.
    * JC Watts: did not serve.
    * Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem, " although continued in NFL for 8
    years as quarterback. (Win one for the Gipper!!)
    * Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.
    * Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
    * George Pataki: did not serve.
    * Spencer Abraham: did not serve.
    * John Engler: did not serve.
    * Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.
    * Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base. (Our gift from
    Austria)

    Pundits & Preachers:

    * Sean Hannity: did not serve.
    * Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')
    * Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.
    * Michael Savage: did not serve.
    * George Will: did not serve.
    * Chris Matthews: did not serve.
    * Paul Gigot: did not serve.
    * Bill Bennett: did not serve.
    * Pat Buchanan: did not serve.
    * John Wayne: did not serve.
    * Bill Kristol: did not serve.
    * Kenneth Starr: did not serve.
    * Antonin Scalia: did not serve.
    * Clarence Thomas: did not serve.
    * Ralph Reed: did not serve.
    * Michael Medved: did not serve.
    * Charlie Daniels: did not serve.
    * Ted Nugent: did not serve. (He only shoots at things that don't shoot
    back.)

    Please keep this information circulating

    Illinois State Sen. Howard W. Carroll

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    Who, exactly was forced from office? And who, exactly, forced them from office? What offices were forcefully vacated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bringthetruth
    The attached is an aged e-mail that I came across.
    I certainly hope that you wiped it off before you posted it here.

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    You've gone from ammusing to ridiculous.

    An interesting and totally bizarre presentation that has a statistical relevence of <0.

    Currently there are 30 members of the senate who are vets.
    16 Repubs and 14 Dems.

    And in the house, there are 101 vets
    55 Repubs and 46 Dems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILOVEDNY
    You've gone from ammusing to ridiculous.

    An interesting and totally bizarre presentation that has a statistical relevence of <0.
    Keep your rose-colored republican glasses on then.

    This clearly shows the amazing hypocracy of the republican and conservative radio and tv personalities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon
    Keep your rose-colored republican glasses on then.

    This clearly shows the amazing hypocracy of the republican and conservative radio and tv personalities.
    Actually, true hypocracy is skewing facts to support a narrative.
    BTT suggests that Repubs serve less then Dems.
    And I just showed he is full of Bigonio.

    Now if you want to ignore the facts and continue your agenda. Good luck.

    Perhaps YOU should visit the Eye doctor and get your prescription updated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bringthetruth
    The attached is an aged e-mail that I came across.

    Come on BTT, an aged e-mail that I came across? Really? This is a short list of websites that seem to have the same list. And all are very recent. Please don't insult everyone intelligence here, as if you have had this list for a while and just found it recently. I find this kind of crap repulsive and divisive. Which of these websites did you really copy/paste this list from? Be honest for once.

    www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1275604/posts
    www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html
    http://www.liberalslikechrist.org/ab...ckenhawks.html
    www.dailykos.com/story/2005/11/12/151730/43
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    This stat only matters to the left wing nuts.
    The troops don't care, they vote Republican the majority of the time.
    The Dems know this and have tried to prevent our soldiers from voting absentee.
    Last edited by LHardy; September 8th, 2008 at 10:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LHardy
    The Dems know this and have tried to prevent our soldiers from voting absentee.
    Actually, it's the Repubs who have a history of this. Well, at least when it's possible that the absentees might vote for the Dems:

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...54c0a9679c8b63
    (in 2000)Their goal was simple: to count the maximum number of overseas ballots in counties won by Mr. Bush, particularly those with a high concentration of military voters, while seeking to disqualify overseas ballots in counties won by Vice President Al Gore.
    A six-month investigation by The New York Times of this chapter in the closest presidential election in modern American history shows that the Republican effort had a decided impact. Under intense pressure from the Republicans, Florida officials accepted hundreds of overseas absentee ballots that failed to comply with state laws.
    In an analysis of the 2,490 ballots from Americans living abroad that were counted as legal votes after Election Day, The Times found 680 questionable votes. Although it is not known for whom the flawed ballots were cast, four out of five were accepted in counties carried by Mr. Bush, The Times found. Mr. Bush's final margin in the official total was 537 votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon
    Keep your rose-colored republican glasses on then.

    This clearly shows the amazing hypocracy of the republican and conservative radio and tv personalities.
    A SHORT list of cowards from a party that proudly trumpets "God's will," "Family values," "smaller government" and other lies while "talking tough,"

    The Grand Old Perverts sure love sending OTHERS to their deaths to fight wars that make their friends and selves money.


    BOTH parties are trash, but at least most of the Dems have had the NADS to do what the armchair toughguys, the warmongers have been too scared to do;"Proudly serve their country by defending it in the armed forces."

    Also ironic is how little support the troops have been given by the G.O.P.;The GI bills voted against, the deplorable state of military eqpt in Iraq includinggggggg....Body armor, mainly thanks to the G.O.P.'s lack of funding so more $$$ can go to thugs like Blackwater and cowards like Halliburton.



    But shhhhhhhh...If you ever happen to confront a tough-guy cowardly politician or tough-talkin' cowardly celebrity on that nasty Repub
    lican allergy to war, they'll get kinda angry and ask:

    "What kind of American questions the patriotism of another, you commie?!"

    "I serve my country in OTHER ways, I'm proud to be a Republican and I'm a good citizen!"



    I HATE WAR but that list speaks volumes;Its undeniable and
    before you McCainiacs forget-
    For MOST of his time in office, McCain has voted AGAINST bills to support other veterans, the poor and middle class ones-Until recently-When he HAD to look good for the record.

    Forget what vets you've seen at the G.O.P. convention;Veterans groups
    HATE McCain

    The same as:

    NYS Firemen and Police associations HATE "Rudy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumbfounded View Post
    A SHORT list of cowards from a party that proudly trumpets "God's will," "Family values," "smaller government" and other lies while "talking tough,"

    The Grand Old Perverts sure love sending OTHERS to their deaths to fight wars that make their friends and selves money.


    BOTH parties are trash, but at least most of the Dems have had the NADS to do what the armchair toughguys, the warmongers have been too scared to do;"Proudly serve their country by defending it in the armed forces."

    Also ironic is how little support the troops have been given by the G.O.P.;The GI bills voted against, the deplorable state of military eqpt in Iraq includinggggggg....Body armor, mainly thanks to the G.O.P.'s lack of funding so more $$$ can go to thugs like Blackwater and cowards like Halliburton.



    But shhhhhhhh...If you ever happen to confront a tough-guy cowardly politician or tough-talkin' cowardly celebrity on that nasty Repub
    lican allergy to war, they'll get kinda angry and ask:

    "What kind of American questions the patriotism of another, you commie?!"

    "I serve my country in OTHER ways, I'm proud to be a Republican and I'm a good citizen!"



    I HATE WAR but that list speaks volumes;Its undeniable and
    before you McCainiacs forget-
    For MOST of his time in office, McCain has voted AGAINST bills to support other veterans, the poor and middle class ones-Until recently-When he HAD to look good for the record.

    Forget what vets you've seen at the G.O.P. convention;Veterans groups
    HATE McCain

    The same as:

    NYS Firemen and Police associations HATE "Rudy"
    Awesome post !

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