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    Teachers Contract Question

    Posted in the news today, the North Tonawanda United Teachers union said they are unhappy with the current contract talks.

    “This showing was an expression of our profound disappointment in the way negotiations are moving,” said Gary Lachut, a high school science teacher and member of the union’s negotiating team.

    Union President Linda Roach said the dispute is not an economic one, but instead involves the “educational program.”
    The district is looking to change the nature of teacher’s workday, Roach said, declining to elaborate.


    Can anyone here elaborate on the issue?

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    Come on, someone has to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS
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    Come on, someone has to know.
    I can guess.

    The school system wants them to spend more time in the schoolo, the teachers do not want to do it without more money.

    Or work rules that mandate what the teachers do, or how they do it, or for how long they do it.

    Micheal

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    It's ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.

    From union contract negotiation strategy 101:

    When crafting a labor agreement, attempt to have the contract touch upon as many aspects of the employers operation as possible, even those that have nothing to do with your membership's job responsibilities. For example, demand that the color scheme that the buildings are currently painted in be subject to union approval if management wishes to change the scheme at some point in the future. These superfluous clauses in the contract cost management nothing at signing but become a leverage point for the union should management wish to change anything in the future.

    We saw the Buffalo Teachers Union exploit this kind of clause when the district wanted to go with a single health insurer rather than the old system of having a choice of three. The City was able to get an economy-of-scale discount from a singe insurer and the union wanted part of the money. It had nothing to do with "reduction of benefits".

    This has probably everything to do with exploiting hidden "sleeper" clauses in their contract so that they can get more money.

    All NYS public employers should be required to work off of a standard contract format, and some items should be outside of the realm of negotiation, such as determining particular health plan providers and the color of buildings. No public employee union contract should be more than 5 pages long. Standardize the process and local politicians will not have the ability to give future generations wealth away.
    Data is not the plural of Anecdote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micheal Joseph
    I can guess.

    The school system wants them to spend more time in the schoolo, the teachers do not want to do it without more money.

    Or work rules that mandate what the teachers do, or how they do it, or for how long they do it.

    Micheal
    Bingo!

    Rumore and Williams are in the process of playing the same game.

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    Come on, Left...you didn't actually expect any informed answers, did you? You know that all these threads proffer are whinings and moanings about those evil teachers unions.

    Take Sock Pooper for example: he didn't even stop to figure out that you were talking about North Tonawanda before pointing fingers at Rumore and Williams (both in Buffalo).
    But your being a dick
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