Shootout with police leaves suspect dead

[Dr Funky]

http://www.buffalonews.com/258/story/115926.html

Shootout, chase leave one man dead, another wounded


A teenager is dead, a man was shot in the hand and a third man is in police custody after a wild shootout with Buffalo police overnight on the city's East Side.

Police are now investigating whether the bullet that killed the 17-year-old was fired from a police officer's service gun. Police also are hunting for another suspect who was still on the loose today.

The names of the men involved in the incident have not been released.

The incident began at about 11:40 p.m. Sunday when police responded to a car chase that began in the area of East Delavan Avenue and Moselle Street.

Buffalo police spokesman Michael J. DeGeorge said two cars were involved in a chase … a white Mercury Sable and a silver or gray BMW.

"Three suspects were in one car and one suspect was in the second car," DeGeorge said.

Police said the occupants of two vehicle exchanged gunfire as the cars sped throughout neighborhoods on the East Side.

During the shootout, one of the men inside the car was shot in his left hand.

More than a dozen police officers responded to the scene and officers began pursuing the two cars.

The white car apparently crashed at Langfield Drive and Eggert Road, where gunfire erupted between officers and a suspect.

"There were two different scenes of gunfire being exchanged," said DeGeorge. "There was the one between the two cars and the one between the suspects in the car and the officers. We're investigating to see if he was the one who shot the suspect."

The man who was shot in his hand was listed in fair condition this afternoon in the Erie County Medical Center. Police are calling him a suspect.

"This type of violence is totally unacceptable and it has to stop," Buffalo Police Commissioner H. McCarthy Gipson said today.

The case is being investigated by detectives from the Homicide Unit and investigators with the Professional Standards Division, which is the department's internal affairs unit.

vthomas@buffnews.com

[MarkLV]

Brass starts falling when the mercury rises.

[unioncop]

These kids should get better aim this way a good police officer would not be brought into their gangbanger lifestyle.

[Townsfolk]

These kids should get better aim this way a good police officer would not be brought into their gangbanger lifestyle.

Funny how everytime one of these black gangbangers is shot/killed it's always the aunt, uncle, or grandmother telling us what a sweet, innocent child this was. Mother or father no where to be found and no one can understand why this happened and there are never any witnesses.

[Dr Funky]

Funny how everytime one of these black gangbangers is shot/killed it's always the aunt, uncle, or grandmother telling us what a sweet, innocent child this was. Mother or father no where to be found and no one can understand why this happened and there are never any witnesses.

What makes you automatically think he was black?

He could have been any other race.

[unioncop]

He was black along with the one shot, the arrested and one that got away. This should not be made into a race issue if it happened in S. Buffalo most would assume they were white and if it happened in N. Buffalo most would assume they are Italian.

[BuffaloEMT14216]

He was black along with the one shot, the arrested and one that got away. This should not be made into a race issue if it happened in S. Buffalo most would assume they were white and if it happened in N. Buffalo most would assume they are Italian.

He's right. West Side it's Hispanic, East Side is Black, Southside is Irish, and Northside is Italian!

This young scumbag got what he deserved. His family or the community will blame the system, racism,white people,Police, blah, blah, blah. It comes down to the fact your a loser and have chosen this lifestyle.
The White Devil didn't force you into this gangbanger lifestyle. I hate goddamn excuses like that. It's a cheap copout. It's just like people that blame TV, Video games, music, etc. What about parental supervision?
You think your cool living in the ghetto,(which go to a Third World Country if you want a REAL GHETTO), you don't want to work or excel at school and your culture idolizes some people in prison as "political prisoners", then oh well.
Besides Funky, I have taken plenty of Somalis and Rwandans who reside on the West Side to the hospital who despise blacks in this country. They always tell me the same thing. Blacks here separate themselves as Afican-Americans,(which they should be fortunate there Americans period) complain about this and that, yet they have not endured the horrors these people have. Might I also include these atrocities are done by other blacks.
These true Africans come from 3rd World nations, make attempts at a better life, their children are dedicated to school, and they have a work ethic.
They do not use the excuse many Black Americans do that they were victims of slavery. Give it a rest! No one living was, and every ethic group that came to this country faced racism yet got passed it. Irish, German, Italian, Chinese, Polish, and I could go on and on.
People should be proud to live here.

[Genoobie]

He's right. West Side it's Hispanic, East Side is Black, Southside is Irish, and Northside is Italian!

This young scumbag got what he deserved. His family or the community will blame the system, racism,white people,Police, blah, blah, blah. It comes down to the fact your a loser and have chosen this lifestyle.
The White Devil didn't force you into this gangbanger lifestyle. I hate goddamn excuses like that. It's a cheap copout. It's just like people that blame TV, Video games, music, etc. What about parental supervision?
You think your cool living in the ghetto,(which go to a Third World Country if you want a REAL GHETTO), you don't want to work or excel at school and your culture idolizes some people in prison as "political prisoners", then oh well.
Besides Funky, I have taken plenty of Somalis and Rwandans who reside on the West Side to the hospital who despise blacks in this country. They always tell me the same thing. Blacks here separate themselves as Afican-Americans,(which they should be fortunate there Americans period) complain about this and that, yet they have not endured the horrors these people have. Might I also include these atrocities are done by other blacks.
These true Africans come from 3rd World nations, make attempts at a better life, their children are dedicated to school, and they have a work ethic.
They do not use the excuse many Black Americans do that they were victims of slavery. Give it a rest! No one living was, and every ethic group that came to this country faced racism yet got passed it. Irish, German, Italian, Chinese, Polish, and I could go on and on.
People should be proud to live here.

Your diction is slightly better than your points. How do you know his parents didn't die in a car accident? How do you know his parents weren't crack heads? Who's fault is that? Who raised him? Do you know them? These Somalis and Rwandans you speak of should be lauded for their hatred? Hutus and Tutsis don't have such a good track record re:murder.

STOP MAKING COMPLEX ISSUES APPEAR SIMPLE, THEY ARE NOT.

Let's make it *simple* for you BuffaloEMT14216, why not take all the black people who aren't working, living in WNY (may as well take their kids too because they'll just grow up to be indigents like their parents) and stick them on a train that ends at a gas chamber...That would solve *your* problem wouldn't it? But then they would probably fire your sorry carcASS because you reportedly spend much of your day shipping these same indigents around.

[Dr Funky]

He was black along with the one shot, the arrested and one that got away. This should not be made into a race issue if it happened in S. Buffalo most would assume they were white and if it happened in N. Buffalo most would assume they are Italian.

The kid was a piece of **** for shooting at him but his race shouldnt be a factor. You know damn well if he was white nobody would have said "That white gangbanger"

[Genoobie]

I wonder if anyone considered the race of the officer? Or did most people just assume he was one race or another...

[unioncop]

The kid was a piece of **** for shooting at him but his race shouldnt be a factor. You know damn well if he was white nobody would have said "That white gangbanger"

What are talking about ?

[unioncop]

I wonder if anyone considered the race of the officer? Or did most people just assume he was one race or another...

The officers race should not matter. He has 18 years on and still chooses to work in one of the busiest and most dangerous district during peek hours. I know him very well since I work with him everyday and he is one of the most level headed guys you will ever meet.

[unioncop]

The kid was a piece of **** for shooting at him but his race shouldnt be a factor. You know damn well if he was white nobody would have said "That white gangbanger"

Did you know the Aryan Brotherhood was the most dangerous and ruthless gang in the California prison system for years and their power even stretched to outside the prison walls. The facts in this case are it happened in a predominantly black neighborhood so it is alright to assume that the perps. were black. You are the one making the race issue bigger then it is in this case.

[Genoobie]

I know the officer's race doesn't matter. I'm just asking if anyone considered it.

[run4it]

These kids should get better aim this way a good police officer would not be brought into their gangbanger lifestyle.

You know, I would expect a bit more sensitivity out of any adult, but especially one who sees stuff like this on a frequent basis.

This kid was 18, but let's face it, he was still a kid. He obviously hadn't yet figured out what is really important in life, otherwise he wouldn't have been in a position to have himself shot.

Yeah, he asked for what he got. And I'm not blaming the officer at all; he did his job in a professional and proper manner. What I'm saying is, this is a life that was completely wasted. It ended before it could really begin. Can you honestly say there's no room for a little sadness at that fact? Or is it all about how to gun them down as quickly as possible, then laugh it off after the fact?

I don't have all the answers as to how to end gang violence and underclass crime, but I do know that, in any civilized society, the answer CANNOT be to simply put them all in graves.

"I awoke to the death of my generation"