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    What government office or agency is the most poorly run?

    What is the worst managed government agency or office in Western New York?

    Buffalo Economic Renaissance Corp (BERC)?
    Buffalo Municipal Housing Corp (BMHC)?
    Erie Canal Harbor Development Corp (ECHDC)?
    Buffalo Police Department?
    Buffalo Fire Department?
    City of Buffalo - Office of Human Resources?
    Buffalo Public Schools

    Government abuse, excess, or incompetence...?


    The worst Public Administrators?


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    Buffalo schools

    buffalo schools think increasing from 51% failure to 50% failure is great they dont want to change what they are doing because they improved. where else would a 50% failure rate be torrerated with out changing drasticly or at least a massive turn over in the people who cant do a better job at teaching
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    Quote Originally Posted by granpabob View Post
    buffalo schools think increasing from 51% failure to 50% failure is great they dont want to change what they are doing because they improved. where else would a 50% failure rate be torrerated with out changing drasticly or at least a massive turn over in the people who cant do a better job at teaching
    I must disagree. I think a whole lot of socio-economic factors come into play with Buffalo schools, plus a lot of teacher burnout, territorial battles between administrators and so on -- the same story you hear in other big, impoverished districts.

    I'd love to see something done that is radically different. Since this WNY, that's not going to happen. But short of that, charter schools should be given every chance possible (although, frankly, I do worry about the lack of oversight)

    Anyway, I don't know which Buffalo agency is worse. But one I believe is incredibly arrogant is the Erie Canal Harbor Development Corp. Those guys are a piece of work.

    I was at a meeting once of residents at an apartment complex that would end up next to a huge parking ramp the ECHDC wanted to build. The residents had complained, protested, forever. This meeting, it was clear to me, was window dressing. How do I know? I sitting next to Jordan Levy, the chairman, and he spent the entire time on his Blackberry...paid no attention to what the people were talking about. I asked him if he'd heard anything they'd said and he showed me a handful of chicken scrawls on a notebook.

    He expected me to believe that. And he didn't care if I didn't. A Master of the Universe....

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    Quote Originally Posted by atotaltotalfan2001 View Post
    I was at a meeting once of residents at an apartment complex that would end up next to a huge parking ramp the ECHDC wanted to build. The residents had complained, protested, forever. This meeting, it was clear to me, was window dressing. How do I know? I sitting next to Jordan Levy, the chairman, and he spent the entire time on his Blackberry...paid no attention to what the people were talking about. I asked him if he'd heard anything they'd said and he showed me a handful of chicken scrawls on a notebook.
    That 'apartment complex' is Marine Drive...which is a SUBSIDIZED HOUSING PROJECT. If the folks there do not like development, tell them to move their asses somewhere else.

    You talk about arrogance...I think you are ignorant. But then again..what can we expect from a housewife to a UB teacher... The concepts of the real world are lost on people like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew.Ricchiazzi View Post
    What is the worst managed government agency or office in Western New York?

    Buffalo Economic Renaissance Corp (BERC)?
    Buffalo Municipal Housing Corp (BMHC)?
    Erie Canal Harbor Development Corp (ECHDC)?
    Buffalo Police Department?
    Buffalo Fire Department?
    City of Buffalo - Office of Human Resources?
    Buffalo Public Schools

    Government abuse, excess, or incompetence...?


    The worst Public Administrators?


    theCityPolitic.com
    I'm not a Buffalo resident, but I know first hand that in 2004-2005 BERC did not pay its' bills to small businesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    That 'apartment complex' is Marine Drive...which is a SUBSIDIZED HOUSING PROJECT. If the folks there do not like development, tell them to move their asses somewhere else.

    You talk about arrogance...I think you are ignorant. But then again..what can we expect from a housewife to a UB teacher... The concepts of the real world are lost on people like you.
    A personal attack. Of course. For the record, I'm not a housewife. I spend a whole lot of time in the real world -- actually, a whole more than you do if you really have left WNY. But I'm wondering about the hostility toward subsidized housing. It's a lovely, well kept complex.

    You remind me of why I don't post here much anymore. Personal attacks are just are too useless. You do dishonor to this site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atotaltotalfan2001 View Post
    A personal attack. Of course. For the record, I'm not a housewife. I spend a whole lot of time in the real world -- actually, a whole more than you do if you really have left WNY. But I'm wondering about the hostility toward subsidized housing. It's a lovely, well kept complex.

    You remind me of why I don't post here much anymore. Personal attacks are just are too useless. You do dishonor to this site.

    It is not a personal attack. It was not done in person. You are just words on a message board.


    Yes, it is a well kept housing complex. It is a well kept URBAN SUBSIDIZED housing complex next door to $300M in public investment. These folks get a nice home for dirt cheap and some can afford housing on their own. They should be thankful for what they have and they have no right to bitch about a parking deck going over their parking lot.

    Once again...URBAN WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT. The idea is to get the most stuff in the smallest amt of space. Marine Drive is a wasteful in its use of space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    It is not a personal attack. It was not done in person. You are just words on a message board.


    Yes, it is a well kept housing complex. It is a well kept URBAN SUBSIDIZED housing complex next door to $300M in public investment. These folks get a nice home for dirt cheap and some can afford housing on their own. They should be thankful for what they have and they have no right to bitch about a parking deck going over their parking lot.

    Once again...URBAN WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT. The idea is to get the most stuff in the smallest amt of space. Marine Drive is a wasteful in its use of space.

    Good try. It was a message meant to denigrate me and I don't know, or care, why. "Just words on a message board" can be verbal attacks on a person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atotaltotalfan2001 View Post
    Good try. It was a message meant to denigrate me and I don't know, or care, why. "Just words on a message board" can be verbal attacks on a person.

    Oh..don't get me wrong. I do not like the way you think. But a personal attack would be in person.

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    What government office or agency is the most poorly run?
    #1 : Office of the mayor. There are too many deputy mayors and PR guys. The office is responsible for way too much patronage. We don't get the best people who keep up to date on how to run a government.

    #2 : Buffalo Public Schools . Who can argue with a 50% graduation rate ? There are ways to deal with all the socioeconomic crap that I hear about. It's called no social promotions, uniforms, discipline, parental involvement . . . .

    I particularly like the service of the trash, water dept, tax department, and the parks. The police are OKay but there seem to be too many of them and the BFD is one of the best in the country. Too bad they milk the pension system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    Oh..don't get me wrong. I do not like the way you think. But a personal attack would be in person.
    If you think a "personal attack" means insulting a person "in person", Lefty, you are incredibly ignorant. That leads me to suspect that most of your persona on this MB is a fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftWNYbecauseofBS View Post
    It is not a personal attack. It was not done in person. You are just words on a message board.


    Yes, it is a well kept housing complex. It is a well kept URBAN SUBSIDIZED housing complex next door to $300M in public investment. These folks get a nice home for dirt cheap and some can afford housing on their own. They should be thankful for what they have and they have no right to bitch about a parking deck going over their parking lot.

    Once again...URBAN WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT. The idea is to get the most stuff in the smallest amt of space. Marine Drive is a wasteful in its use of space.
    I didn't realize that the hole in the ground where the Aud used to be represents $300 million in public investment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda_D View Post
    If you think a "personal attack" means insulting a person "in person", Lefty, you are incredibly ignorant. That leads me to suspect that most of your persona on this MB is a fraud.

    Think what you want Linda. This is a message board.

    From what I can tell I called ATTF ignorant and a housewife. ZOMG call the cops, how dare I go so far.

    It should also be mentioned that you used the same insult that I did. Unless calling someone a housewife is really bad.

    Get off your f*cking high horse.

    Oh, I would love to hear a reply on you absolute Bull Sh*t in the Cost of living

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