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    Driving down Union Road and I've noticed the signs "Traffic" "Property Values"

    Last year, we had "No" and "Yes" and every September and November we have "Vote" , "Re-Elect" , "Elect"

    It's time West Seneca stops allowing political signs to be posted on our lawns in our town. Orchard Park made this a ordinance. West Seneca should follow. The signs make the town look tacky.

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    stop political signs

    Quote Originally Posted by wnyfuture View Post
    Driving down Union Road and I've noticed the signs "Traffic" "Property Values"

    Last year, we had "No" and "Yes" and every September and November we have "Vote" , "Re-Elect" , "Elect"

    It's time West Seneca stops allowing political signs to be posted on our lawns in our town. Orchard Park made this a ordinance. West Seneca should follow. The signs make the town look tacky.
    WS needs some class, no signs might help.

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    They're simply attempting to get their point across, that they're not in favor of the proposed Houghton College property development.

    But, I agree, banning lawn signs would offer a solution to many problems. For example, election signs that remain long after an election. Yard sales signs promoting sales that were held weeks prior, and left on numerous corners. The endless, and often ongoing, "Open House" signs for various housing developments. Or the "Home Based Business" signs, with an 800 number. I usually don't have a pen to write the number down anyway.

    While we're at it, how about a ban on those stupid inflatable holiday decorations? The one outside the new Key Bank on Union is especially annoying. And also, people have the nerve to put a car, truck, jet ski,
    snowmobile, or other stuff out on their property with a "For Sale" sign on it! And then there are the numerous groups with their lawn fetes, casino nights, cookie sales, chowder sale, etc. How much are we expected to take? Another thing, do dentists, lawyers, plumbers, collision shops, health clubs, etal, really need to advertise? If you're good at what you do people will spread the word. Beside, Cellino & Barnes invade my TV enough. I don't need to see them on the NYS Thruway too.

    Don't get me started on "lawn orniments". The fat lady's ass isn't that funny, and the farmer's shadow leaning against a tree is dumb. Nor do I think the deer standing on the lawn perfectly motionless for days, or the large 24" butterfly on your tree, are real. By the way, have the children put their toys in the back yard, and put the plow blade in the garage,it makes the town look cluttered. Don't forget the basketball hoops, this isn't a playground you know.

    I guess my point is, we allow many others to express their views, and taste, or simply live thier lives on their front lawns. How is this different? I'm sure when the issue is settled, the signs will be responsibly removed and disposed. You will no longer feel the need to actually drive the speed limit on Union Rd. in order to read them. You will be able to speed along to where ever it is you're in such a hurry to go, without having to think. But remember, the opinion expressed on that lawn sign is that of the home owner, and oneday they may not like your opinion, or candidate, which you may wish to advertise on your lawn. But they'll probably defend your right to express that opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wnyfuture View Post
    Driving down Union Road and I've noticed the signs "Traffic" "Property Values"

    Last year, we had "No" and "Yes" and every September and November we have "Vote" , "Re-Elect" , "Elect"

    It's time West Seneca stops allowing political signs to be posted on our lawns in our town. Orchard Park made this a ordinance. West Seneca should follow. The signs make the town look tacky.
    This would have serious implications in regard to the First Amendment of the United States Constitution and Article 1 section 8 of the New York Constitution. Where a municipality enacts a content-based speech regulation, strict scrutiny applies and the municipality must show that the "regulation is necessary to serve a compelling state interest and that it is narrowly drawn to achieve that end." Boos v. Barry, 485 U.S. 312, 321, 99 L. Ed. 2d 333, 108 S. Ct. 1157 (1988). It is well settled that "the First Amendment forbids the government to regulate speech in ways that favor some viewpoints or ideas at the expense of others." Members of City Council v. Taxpayers for Vincent, 466 U.S. 789, 804, 80 L. Ed. 2d 772, 104 S. Ct. 2118, 2128 (1984). "First Amendment protections, however, encompass not only content-based prohibitions on speech, but also content-based restrictions on speech." Savago v. Village of New Paltz, 214 F. Supp. 2d 252, 258 (N.D.N.Y. 2002).

    It should be noted that the Orchard Park Town Code section 140-40(e) provides:

    Temporary free expression signs. For each parcel, one temporary free expression sign with a surface area of four square feet or less may be displayed. If displayed as a freestanding sign, such sign shall not exceed four feet in height. A temporary free expression sign is in addition to any other sign allowed under this chapter and is allowed in any zoning district. Only one such sign may be permitted on each parcel. A temporary free expression sign shall be set back a minimum of five feet from any lot line. No permit is required for a temporary free expression sign allowed under this subsection.
    140-40(f) provides:

    Temporary election signs. For each parcel, one temporary election sign with a surface area of four feet or less may be displayed for each candidate and each issue. The temporary election signs allowed under this section are in addition to a temporary free expression sign and any other sign allowed under this chapter. If displayed as a freestanding sign, such sign shall not exceed four feet in height. A temporary election sign shall be set back a minimum of five feet from any lot line. A temporary election sign shall be removed within seven business days following the election to which it pertains. No permit is required for a temporary election sign allowed under this subsection.
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    The biggest difference is the lawn ornaments will eventually be taken down. I've seen signs continue to still be up, well after the election.

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    Eliminate signs ?.....

    Seriously ?

    I got a better idea.

    Get rid of TV commercials.

    Oh wait, this is an age old complaint.

    Hey Res, get rid of this thread too !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit of Ebenezer View Post
    Get rid of TV commercials.
    That's why I watch a lot of video on demand. No C&B, Billy "HUGE" Fuccillo, or other advertising. DVR is nice too!
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