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    Obama leads this country towards socialism

    Obama and his cohorts leading this country towards socialism.

    1) Taking the banks out out the student loan business.
    2) Government health care plan.
    3) Attempting to stop sugar drinks in schools
    4) Taking over the auto industry

    The government is attempting to control our daily lives.
    We are getting closer to the government regulating our lives as written in the book by George Orwell book "1984" Soon our children will be reporting their parents to the "government police" for having anti government ideas.
    When will America wake up to what Obama is doing to this country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lackawanna View Post
    Obama and his cohorts leading this country towards socialism.

    1) Taking the banks out out the student loan business. This will save a huge amount of money every year, but i'm hesitant to let DC run anything.
    2) Government health care plan. Nope not happening, it's an expantion of the private system with MASSIVE govt regulations
    3) Attempting to stop sugar drinks in schools what's bad about this? they already tell you where you can and can't smoke!
    4) Taking over the auto industry

    The government is attempting to control our daily lives.
    We are getting closer to the government regulating our lives as written in the book by George Orwell book "1984" Soon our children will be reporting their parents to the "government police" for having anti government ideas.

    And the 4), yes they are and it is a big waste of money, go FORD!
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    I find very often that when people attack President Obama by accusing him of spreading socialism, it's because they don't understand what socialism actually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindcrime View Post
    I find very often that when people attack President Obama by accusing him of spreading socialism, it's because they don't understand what socialism actually is.
    And they really can't give a good reason why socialism is a bad thing, necessarily.


    Sounds like the "commie scare" from back in the 50's and 60's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NBuffaloResident View Post
    And they really can't give a good reason why socialism is a bad thing, necessarily.


    Sounds like the "commie scare" from back in the 50's and 60's.
    Isn't sociallism a system that takes money from the working class and gives it to the non working class.
    When will America wake up to what Obama is doing to this country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lackawanna View Post
    Isn't sociallism a system that takes money from the working class and gives it to the non working class.
    No, not really.

    Why don't you do some research on what socialism is? I can give you a quick low down however, if you like:

    Socialism refers to the various theories of economic organization which advocate either public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources. A more comprehensive definition of socialism is an economic system that has transcended commodity production and wage labor, where economic activity is carried out to maximize use-value as opposed to exchange-value, including in its definition a corresponding change in social and economic relations; such as the organization of economic institutions and resource allocatio; often implying advocacy for a method of compensation based on the amount of labor expended. - Source, Wikipedia

    So, the working class get a direct ownership and say in the production and expense of goods and services. Also, workers get compensated based on the amount of labor done. There is no sitting on your arse and collecting checks..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lackawanna View Post
    Isn't sociallism a system that takes money from the working class and gives it to the non working class.
    We know it as re-allocation. Damn evil corporations making it necessary

    What is the most socialist country anyone can think of???

    see how well that is working,, socialist europe wasn't doing too well the last time I checked either.

    No thanks!
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    Socialism

    socialism
    1. a theory or system of social organization advocating placing the ownership and control of capital, land, and means of production in the community as a whole. Cf. utopian socialism.
    2. the procedures and practices based upon this theory.
    3. Marxist theory. the first stage in the transition from capitalism to communism, marked by imperfect realizations of collectivist principles. — socialist, n., adj. — socialistic, adj

    To me socialism means the government will control everything.
    When will America wake up to what Obama is doing to this country?

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    what is wrong with capitalism? nothing. However the powers that be, have realised that americans eat, drink and own too much, and therefore need a decrease in wages, and thus a decrease in a standard of living.

    as example... wages since 2000 have DECREASED. However the base price for a Brand New 2009 F150 has INCREASED $5,000 since 2000. due to 'inflation' However, wages, on the other hand, by and large have experience deflation.


    This isnt about socialism, this is about govt control taking out freedoms and liberties to feed the American War Machine.
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    You can fool some of the liberals all the time...

    You can foll all of the liberals some of the time...

    But you CAN fool all the conservatives all the time...

    Socialism is gonna getcha! Quick, hide! hide!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lackawanna View Post
    Obama and his cohorts leading this country towards socialism.

    1) Taking the banks out out the student loan business.
    2) Government health care plan.
    3) Attempting to stop sugar drinks in schools
    4) Taking over the auto industry

    The government is attempting to control our daily lives.
    We are getting closer to the government regulating our lives as written in the book by George Orwell book "1984" Soon our children will be reporting their parents to the "government police" for having anti government ideas.
    1984 was about the threat of communism, sweetpea, not socialism. It was also fiction written about 60 years ago.

    You might try actually reading the book instead of just repeating what propagandists tell you about it.

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    I have read the book many years ago

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    1984 was about the threat of communism, sweetpea, not socialism. It was also fiction written about 60 years ago.

    You might try actually reading the book instead of just repeating what propagandists tell you about it.
    I have read the book many years ago

    First Socialism then communism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lackawanna View Post
    I have read the book many years ago

    First Socialism then communism.
    You probably need to read it again.

    It had nothing to do with socialism. Nor did it have anything to do with a progression of political/economic systems.

    Orwell was a socialist himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda_D View Post
    1984 was about the threat of communism, sweetpea, not socialism. It was also fiction written about 60 years ago.

    You might try actually reading the book instead of just repeating what propagandists tell you about it.
    Actually, it dealt with neither. It dealt with facism coming under the guise of socialism.

    It being called "IngSoc" (English Socialism) was a purposeful misnomer.
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    The difference between a socialist and a capitalist is how much you are willing to have someone else spend your hard earned money.

    it is all just a matter of degree. I could anger a lefty if I took enough money from them...providing they had non government employment

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