And what was that about gun control stopping crime? It seems that just the opposite happens to be true!!!
But Armageddon never arrived. Quite the contrary, murders in Washington plummeted by an astounding 25 percent in 2009, dropping from 186 murders in 2008 to 140. That translates to a murder rate that is now down to 23.5 per 100,000 people, Washinton’s lowest since 1967. While other cities have also fared well over the last year, D.C.'s drop was several times greater than that for other similar sized cities. According to preliminary estimates by the FBI, nationwide murders fell by a relatively more modest 10 percent last year and by about 8 percent in other similarly sized cities of half a million to one million people (D.C.'s population count is at about 590,000).
This shouldn't be surprising to anyone who has followed how crime rates change after gun bans have been imposed. Around the world, whenever guns are banned, murder rates rise. Washington’s murder rate soared after its handgun ban went into effect in early 1977 (there is only one year while the ban was in effect that the murder rate fell below the1976 number and that happened many years later -- in 1985). Its murder rate also rose relative to other cities. Washington’s murder rate rose from 12 percent above the average for the 50 most populous cities in 1976 to 35 percent above the average in 1986.
Violent crime rate are directly related to whether or not guns are allowed or banned, who can dispute this at all?
I wonder when the "State's Rights" people are going to be up in arms about the Fed trying to creep in on the right's of states and local governments to administer their own affairs
Raptor Jesus: He went extinct for your sins.
I believe every law abiding citizen should have the right to own a firearm for personal protection.
However, the DC statistics don't support the argument that less gun control leads to fewer murders. The report and its stats do not show a cause and effect relationship.
First, the Heller decision was handed down in late June of 2008, and the revision to the DC gun control laws din't take place until December of 2008.
But there were no reports of law abiding citizens repelling potential murders with newly acquired firearms during 2009 in DC. The only other possibility is that criminals suddenly concluded not to commit murders during 2009 because "law abiding citizens might have guns." Not likely, given that criminals rob banks with armed guards, shoot armed police officers in restaurants, and generally pay no attention to the risks involved with their criminal behavior. If they thought a law abiding citizen had a gun they'd just see it as an opportunity to steal the gun.
Of course, this could happen instead:
William Schater on gun control
If he thinks someone is home and is armed, he'll skip that house. If he thinks no one is home and there are guns in the house, he'll break in to get the guns.
But still, there are no reported instances of new gun owners under the revised DC law repelling potential murders during 2009. So there is still no cause and effect relationship shown.
Add to that the fact that gun ownership in DC is still extremely low. I believe less than 500 permits have been issued since the ruling went into effect.
~WnyresidentBut your being a dick
From the early reports of the oral argument it sounds like the 2nd is going to get incorporated but with open ended restriction language like that used in the Heller opinion.
So total bans will be unconstitutional. Will restrictions limiting possession to one's home be allowed? Will bans of firearms on public property be allowed? It is going to take a lot more cases to sort out the details.
Point being, Mike, the Heller case had nothing to do with crime going up, down, or sideways in DC. The crime rate was down before and after the ruling.
~WnyresidentBut your being a dick
The less weapons the less fatalities.
I live on the lower west side and have no use for a gun.
I don't lock my door.
Quite the contrary, murders in Washington plummeted by an astounding 25 percent in 2009, dropping from 186 murders in 2008 to 140.
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