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    If there was a provision in Kaminski's Contract of Sale with the church that the land goes back to Kaminski if the church did not get their plan approved by the town board, there is a problem. These types of clauses are in all contracts of sale when this type of project needs a board's approval. It would be unethical, illegal and absolutely against the law that Kaminski voted on it. People have gone to jail across the country for profiting off the taxpayers. It's pay to play for his vote and anyone else that voted for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitbull View Post
    If there was a provision in Kaminski's Contract of Sale with the church that the land goes back to Kaminski if the church did not get their plan approved by the town board, there is a problem. These types of clauses are in all contracts of sale when this type of project needs a board's approval. It would be unethical, illegal and absolutely against the law that Kaminski voted on it. People have gone to jail across the country for profiting off the taxpayers. It's pay to play for his vote and anyone else that voted for it.
    Apparently someone did their homework to nail him.


    Is there a NYS agency that looks out for us little property owners that could review this?

    I believe you are wrong though. The lawyers representing the development project would know better.

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    insane

    They usually are in all contracts, but not for Churches..Im sure if you would have been at the informational meeting with the churches attorney you would have found out that there is nothing the town can do to stop them from building. If the whole town board voted against it, it would still get built. In New York State Churches are exempt from zoning laws. They have to adhere to environmental, building plans, etc., but can not say you cant build a place of worship here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pitbull View Post
    If there was a provision in Kaminski's Contract of Sale with the church that the land goes back to Kaminski if the church did not get their plan approved by the town board, there is a problem. These types of clauses are in all contracts of sale when this type of project needs a board's approval. It would be unethical, illegal and absolutely against the law that Kaminski voted on it. People have gone to jail across the country for profiting off the taxpayers. It's pay to play for his vote and anyone else that voted for it.
    Last edited by cheektowaga; January 31st, 2017 at 05:11 PM. Reason: forgot something

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    I am so glad you were at meeting with the church's lawyers but why would anyone take the word of the church's lawyers? They really don't care if Kaminski illegally voted on the project. The church's lawyers just care about getting their deal. What worries me is that vote violates state and federal laws on profiteering for a councilman and is a federal offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheektowaga View Post
    They usually are in all contracts, but not for Churches..Im sure if you would have been at the informational meeting with the churches attorney you would have found out that there is nothing the town can do to stop them from building. If the whole town board voted against it, it would still get built. In New York State Churches are exempt from zoning laws. They have to adhere to environmental, building plans, etc., but can not say you cant build a place of worship here.
    Churches aren't exempt from zoning laws. Who told you such a thing?

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    Churches aren't exempt from zoning laws. Who told you such a thing?
    It must have been that honest and ethical church's attorney, Ralph Lorigo, who is also chairman of the Erie County Conservative Party. Just like he told them there is nothing the town can do to stop them from building.

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    If the town board voted against this what do you think would have happened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    If the town board voted against this what do you think would have happened?
    As he did with Tim Horton on Dick Rd, Lorigo would have threatened legal action and the board who last week has hired the old town attorney back on a part time bases may have fought it unlike when they caved to Lorigo over the Tim Hortons deal due to the then newly hired part time attorney's recommendation.

    So, there may not have been any legal console to advise the board before the vote last week.

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    You know the way the Cheektowaga Democratic Party has used money in the past with lawyers for employee issues you would think this wouldn't be an issue. Kevin is cool at least any time I dealt with him. Sometimes you do have to step up to the plate and not cave in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNYresident View Post
    You know the way the Cheektowaga Democratic Party has used money in the past with lawyers for employee issues you would think this wouldn't be an issue. Kevin is cool at least any time I dealt with him. Sometimes you do have to step up to the plate and not cave in.
    Look at how they let the Highway superintendent and Deputy superintendent off the hook

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    The Town of Cheektowaga is seeking individuals to serve on the Board of Ethics. Confidentiality and a commitment to the duties of the position are required. Board members receive no compensation for their services. Interested residents should send a letter and resume to:
    Council Office
    Cheektowaga Town Hall
    3301 Broadway Road
    Cheektowaga, New York 14227
    Please include your political affiliation since no more than three members of any one political party may serve on the Board at one time.

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    It's actually Alice, Rogowski and Meyers whose seats are up. I'm willing to bet if Pat Delaney had beat Alice last year we wouldn't be having half of these problems.

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