Reply With QuoteI don't doubt it. My info comes from the research I did on ADHD when my son was diagnosed.Originally Posted by DomesticatedFeminist
People who have "special needs" are susceptible to addiction in general. I just read an interesting article about this. I should see if I can find it.
I should add many of the specialist I have read believe that people that have sensory issues that aren't taken care of are also likely to self medicating.
“Two percent of the people think; three percent of the people think they think; and ninety-five percent of the people would rather die than think.”
I don't doubt it. My info comes from the research I did on ADHD when my son was diagnosed.
1 Corinthians 13:1 "If I speak in the languages of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal."
This has been proven time and time again, I totally agree with you.
Listen my friend, while I agree with you to a point in regard to some parents, this is not true for all children nor all parents. Being polite and being able to take turns at a game should not be considered barking at a kid to force them to conform.The self medicating is caused by parents, teachers, and a society who constantly bark at a kid and force them to conform to the lies, hypocrisy, and BORDOM that adults seem to think is the healthy way to live!
You pro-pill poppers have no idea what the hell you are doing!
I think you and I are talking about two different situations. Children who truly have an issue and it isn't addressed, not only can go on to self medicate, but also rarely have any or many friends or solid relationships, because quite frankly - they act immature and people frankly do not want to be around them.
That is why early intervention is important for all kids with social/behavioral issues, children then learn to self regulate in a way. You know what i mean. Like a kid who is hyper learns that instead of pushing a friend, they can go and push on the wall. It's amazing the little things that help.
“Two percent of the people think; three percent of the people think they think; and ninety-five percent of the people would rather die than think.”
You are using "Pavlov's technique" (theory) called conditioning. Children can be conditioned when you do the same routine consistantly. The technique stimulates the responses. Common practice and used wisely is effective especially if it is carried through into the classroom. OT's love communication between home and school. It is great that the teacher is on board.
I can't say it's the exact schedule in school, but we are adopting some things into our routine and so is the teacher.
I remember learning the "pavlov tecnique" when i took a socilogy class. I actually thought of the dog and the saliva the first time we used the timer. It's pretty much the same concept, when my kids hear the bell they know it's time to clean up, time for bed, or my son knows he is allowed to get up from the dinner table. It gives him audio and a visual (for kids that are old enough to read a clock) clue that it's time for a change.
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“Two percent of the people think; three percent of the people think they think; and ninety-five percent of the people would rather die than think.”
I remember an incident where a parent went crazy over this theory and wanted to use the timer for "toilet educationing" her child. So everytime the bell rang, she made the child go to the bathroom. Well make a long story short, what it actually caused was "anal retention". The child reacted adversely to the procedure.
So I had to do some desensitization methods so that this was not an emotional dilemma for this child. God that was years back.
So the solution is to declare a disorder and drug them into conformation?
So what if the relatives, schoolmates, and neighborhood doesnt want to be around them, ever think that maybe the so-called ADHD child is just instinctively smarter and more talented, and its the incompetent, dictatorial, and hypocritical behavior of the others that is causing the hyperactivity and inattention in the first place?
New borns mimic those who are providing their essentials. Its those who are raising them who provide the path to disorder.
No human being likes to feel persecutued and oppressed, especially by their own parents. Drugging a kid is just an excuse for a parent to deni their own inabilities and [possibly] laziness.
My neighbors do that with their cows. The bell is used so as the cows get older it ensures the cows will never get smarter and figure out how to unlock the gate and escape.
Why is society treating human children like domesticated heards of animals? Oh ****! I think I just threw up in my mouth. Blech!
Yea I couldn't see how that would work for potty training. Rewards and praise worked for me, and it didn't cause them to need praise everytime they go either.
Potty training is a very delicate stage.
“Two percent of the people think; three percent of the people think they think; and ninety-five percent of the people would rather die than think.”
Because to some extent they are and they have to be conditioned for society to some extent. We all have to conform to some extent to get by. I agree with what you say usually to some extent, but society has to maintain some order.
You have to teach children what is appropriate and what isn't.
“Two percent of the people think; three percent of the people think they think; and ninety-five percent of the people would rather die than think.”
Kids with add are usually very intelligent and gifted. I am not in favor of drugs but I think in some cases it can be beneficial. But i also think it should be a last resort after other things have been tried.So the solution is to declare a disorder and drug them into conformation?
So what if the relatives, schoolmates, and neighborhood doesnt want to be around them, ever think that maybe the so-called ADHD child is just instinctively smarter and more talented, and its the incompetent, dictatorial, and hypocritical behavior of the others that is causing the hyperactivity and inattention in the first place?
New borns mimic those who are providing their essentials. Its those who are raising them who provide the path to disorder.
No human being likes to feel persecutued and oppressed, especially by their own parents. Drugging a kid is just an excuse for a parent to deni their own inabilities and [possibly] laziness.
“Two percent of the people think; three percent of the people think they think; and ninety-five percent of the people would rather die than think.”
toileting is a bodily function like eating and sleeping is. So we should not reward children for toileting just like we should never punish is an accident occurs.
Sylvan, your commentary sounds like you are familiar with adhd?
i know rewards aren't the best approach but it worked. But you are right
“Two percent of the people think; three percent of the people think they think; and ninety-five percent of the people would rather die than think.”
I was a guinea pig before drugs became the trend. Was always at my best and happiest when simply left alone to meet a challenge instead of being "ordered" what and when to do something by someone whose ways of doing things werent as efficient as mine or completely incompetent. Self medicating from 14 to 18 was to escape the persecution which also actually opened my mind making me more wellrounded and patient than others in the long run because I made the schedule, NOT a bunch of academic authoritarian pharaceuticalists with an agenda.
There are followers and there are leaders. When a follower breeds a leader and tries to make the leader follow them, thats the beginning of the conflict and balloons into dysfunction. So the instincts of the hyper child teach them that if theyre not allowed to do things in the ways that are efficient for them, dont waste time and go through the burdens of doing anything at all. They just wait for the oppertunity to escape their parents hell and oppression, find like minded people who understand them, and figure out everything else on their own.
I'll betcha the overwelming majority, when they become adults, end up not just successful, but also become the most rightous people in society, and NOT the trouble makers that the studies and statistics used by big businesses as propaganda for monetery profit.
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