Tonights Debate - Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump

[300miles]

Pelosi isn't running for president. Neither is Obama, or Bill Clinton.

[leftWNYbecauseofBS]

I would add a fair number of police officers that just don't want to deal with this every time they have to arrest a black person.

It's not just arresting a black person...it's just dealing with them.

We have allowed violent criminals to somehow carry the banner of being persecuted because public officials don't have the spine to tell BLM that they are f*cking delusional. We have allowed facts to trump emotion because the moment you start to state facts blacks go batsh*t insane and start acting like caged animals. Oh and you're called racist for pointing out facts.

Personally I think they should allow police departments some options.

Option A - Allow officers to stop and frisk.

Option B - Allow for reactive policing if the police fear that an unproductive confrontation could happen. As in only respond to crime when requested to do so.




By the way this is a good read - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...th_matter.html

[WNYresident]

The double standards are pretty amusing...

It is such double standards it isn't funny anymore.

Specially when Hillary calls anyone a liar.

Another thing I noticed which I thought was odd is how Hillary is now saying the black community is ok and Trump is making it sound worse that it is.

I'm still perplexed how any local political group can endorse her and support her.

[WNYresident]

This was interesting.

So he's using the rules on the books to save himself what tax money he can. So if Cuomo and IDA's give people tax breaks it's ok even though Hillary will say it makes Trump a burden on the middle class. So if you use the laws on the books you are a burden.

Doesn't Hillary consider importing 100000's of refugees at the expense of everyone in the USA a burden on the middle class?

Why doesn't Hillary consider the medical care of 100000's of illegal immigrants a burden on the middle class including the welfare they are given to get on their feet?

[gorja]

Originally posted by WNYresident:
I thought he basically only called Rosie all that stuff and he pointed that out earlier debates. Right?

And Rosie probably deserved it.

But i don't know if this girl did
https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/this-is...105901358.html

[Jeff]

And Rosie probably deserved it.

But i don't know if this girl did
https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/this-is...105901358.html

As a father of three daughters, Trump can go **** himself for those comments.

[HipKat]

I would tend to agree here, I really lament the fact that Ron Paul didn't make it back in the day.

Holy cow, we agree on something.
I disagree with Miles on the 30 years comment. She was a pretty involved First Lady. Maybe not in actual policy making,although who knows what her and Bill talked about at the dinner table, but she's had a toe in the pool since they were in the white house.

The one thing Trump hit on for me, and I've preached this every 4 years, is he hit on bringing jobs back to the US. How he'd do it? I have no clue. But I have been flabbergasted that these companies ship their products back here for free and that does need to stop

[HipKat]

I would add a fair number of police officers that just don't want to deal with this every time they have to arrest a black person.
BLM is a joke, they don't even know what the hell they are protesting, a kid that got shot reaching for a pellet pistol from his waist band, the thug Mike Brown that fought with a cop, the most recent shooting by a black cop..

The police that break the rules should be prosecuted and better training may be needed in some departments. ..but

Being a cop is the last profession I would want to be now.

The problem with this, and what no one says -especially in BLM - is the policy of Catch and Release in our Judicial system. If cops are tired of anything, it's probably arresting the sam,e people over and over just to see them back out on the street again

[300miles]

I disagree with Miles on the 30 years comment. She was a pretty involved First Lady.

30 years ago the First Lady was Nancy Reagan.

[Save Us]

It's not just arresting a black person...it's just dealing with them.

We have allowed violent criminals to somehow carry the banner of being persecuted because public officials don't have the spine to tell BLM that they are f*cking delusional. We have allowed facts to trump emotion because the moment you start to state facts blacks go batsh*t insane and start acting like caged animals. Oh and you're called racist for pointing out facts.

Personally I think they should allow police departments some options.

Option A - Allow officers to stop and frisk.

Option B - Allow for reactive policing if the police fear that an unproductive confrontation could happen. As in only respond to crime when requested to do so.




By the way this is a good read - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...th_matter.html

All this with a supposed economic recovery. This is why entitlements such medicare, medicaid, and social security will be hit first in an economic belt tightening. Old and sick people won't burn sh*t down if they are upset with something.

Crime will rise due to under policing, I understand pistol permit applications have increased here in Erie County. Cops should be trained with tranquilizer dart rifles.. cuff em then reverse the drug. you could drop a water buffalo with one dart. Hell they should aerosolize that for riots, the hell with tear gas.

Seriously, how could this situation not get worse...another shooting last night.

[leftWNYbecauseofBS]

All this with a supposed economic recovery. This is why entitlements such medicare, medicaid, and social security will be hit first in an economic belt tightening. Old and sick people won't burn sh*t down if they are upset with something.

Crime will rise due to under policing, I understand pistol permit applications have increased here in Erie County. Cops should be trained with tranquilizer dart rifles.. cuff em then reverse the drug. you could drop a water buffalo with one dart. Hell they should aerosolize that for riots, the hell with tear gas.

Seriously, how could this situation not get worse...another shooting last night.

Is there a semi-automatic tranquilizer dart gun? Not riffle but hand gun? Is there a dart gun with a multiple round chamber? Don't know much about guns but I do know even the best shot misses when chaos is the case.

I have read others say stun guns should be used. Which seems reasonable until you watch enough videos showing people being able to withstand a stun gun. Either being cracked out or the taser not getting to the skin.


What I would like people to accept is the following:

1 - Being a police officer is a very difficult job and requires a certain temperament to be a quality police officer. This temperament is more important than quota for hiring. It's more important than how someone scores on a written test. Really without having the correct temperament one should never be allowed to be a police officer.

2 - Being a police officer requires a certain level of physical conditioning and strength. Without these a police officer is less likely to be able to control a situation on their own and without the use of gun or baton.

These two items would solve many of the police shootings that are in fact situations that should not have happened. What happened in Tulsa and San Diego are perfect examples of this. But fixing these two items will be difficult and even if you fix these items it won't solve the entire problem. There is one more item.

3 - People need to understand law and order. They need to understand what they can and can't do and they need to know what to do and what not to do. They need to stop forcing police officers to make a choice. There is a saying 'better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6' and that rings true. Police officers are people. People with families and people simply trying to do a job. They are there to not only protect the public but protect themselves from harm.

What happened with Keith Scott in Charlotte is 100% his fault. There is no other way to look at it than to place 100% of the blame for his death on him.

[Save Us]

Is there a semi-automatic tranquilizer dart gun? Not riffle but hand gun? Is there a dart gun with a multiple round chamber? Don't know much about guns but I do know even the best shot misses when chaos is the case.

I have read others say stun guns should be used. Which seems reasonable until you watch enough videos showing people being able to withstand a stun gun. Either being cracked out or the taser not getting to the skin.


What I would like people to accept is the following:

1 - Being a police officer is a very difficult job and requires a certain temperament to be a quality police officer. This temperament is more important than quota for hiring. It's more important than how someone scores on a written test. Really without having the correct temperament one should never be allowed to be a police officer.

2 - Being a police officer requires a certain level of physical conditioning and strength. Without these a police officer is less likely to be able to control a situation on their own and without the use of gun or baton.

These two items would solve many of the police shootings that are in fact situations that should not have happened. What happened in Tulsa and San Diego are perfect examples of this. But fixing these two items will be difficult and even if you fix these items it won't solve the entire problem. There is one more item.

3 - People need to understand law and order. They need to understand what they can and can't do and they need to know what to do and what not to do. They need to stop forcing police officers to make a choice. There is a saying 'better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6' and that rings true. Police officers are people. People with families and people simply trying to do a job. They are there to not only protect the public but protect themselves from harm.

What happened with Keith Scott in Charlotte is 100% his fault. There is no other way to look at it than to place 100% of the blame for his death on him.

Most importantly, comply with legal requests from said officers. That would solve about 99.999% of the problem since there are
thousands of arrests that are effected every day in the US without making headlines.

Seriously, what is so damn hard about that ?

[WNYresident]

As a father of three daughters, Trump can go **** himself for those comments.

Bill Clinton would have hit on your daughters and then Hillary would have called them bimbos. Actually Megan Kelly on Fox just pointed this out tonight. She said if comments are wrong for Trump they are equally wrong when Hillary says the same thing.

So now what will do? Vote third party?

[WNYresident]

As a father of three daughters, Trump can go **** himself for those comments.

Good roll model for daughters everywhere.

‘Miss Piggy’ Who Hillary Attacked Trump Over At Debate Is Porn Star Involved In Murder – Then Threatened To Kill Judge…

Machado is a porn actress accused of driving the getaway vehicle for a murder attempt and later threatening to kill a judge.

http://usherald.com/miss-piggy-hillary-attacked-trump-debate-porn-star-involved-murder-threatened-kill-judge/

[HipKat]

She said that was speculation. She didn't "admit" to it happening